Pentel

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2021-05-07 20:29:55

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2021-05-07 20:43:02

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2021-05-11 10:52:12

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2021-05-11 10:52:12

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 10:59:34

@Knocktype11 did you ever find color codes for the Tradio?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 20:56:52

*Thread Reply:* Check out the Pentel International - 2006 Catalogue.pdf from my post on 5/17. Look at page 13 of the PDF (p 16 of the catalog). At the top are the Tradio pencils. This is the only catalog I know of that has the Tradio pencils.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 10:59:39

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:06:22

Not yet. Still searching

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:06:34

Do you have them? They are weird

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:06:42

There's also marble and snakeskin looking ones

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:07:05

nah I dont collect those. I just have a few of the gold ones for their nose cones

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:07:10

I used them on some custom pieces

2021-05-11 11:08:30

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:08:52

The catalog I have from 2006 lists the models and has really bad pictures (low-res scan) and does not list the colors or have a table. Time for more google image search

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:09:21

the pen version of the Tradio has TONS of colors

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:10:10

That is another path to finding colors.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:10:34

@Ƶ what do you specialize in wrt Pentel?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:10:58

he specializing in asking me for pencils I either dont have or want to sell 🙂

2021-05-11 11:11:29

But I just started collecting vintage. Stuff I have is graph 1000 limited model

2021-05-11 11:11:58

Smash og set. Graph 600, 620. Trying to collect metallic set for P200 series.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:12:31

He just started with vintage and ALREADY has a PD505

2021-05-11 11:13:10

*Thread Reply:* Thanks to a good friend 😉

2021-05-11 11:12:48

But now focusing on old old pieces. Like quicker clickers, technoclics, graph, etc.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:12:50

I hope you own calipers!

2021-05-11 11:14:39

*Thread Reply:* Could you send me a photo?

2021-05-11 11:26:52

*Thread Reply:* I don’t not own any of those. sadly.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:30:19

*Thread Reply:* Are you in the US?

2021-05-11 11:31:00

*Thread Reply:* Yes I am

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:32:21

*Thread Reply:* Cool. Next time I get a new one I'll send one to you. They are pretty cheap. Even Harbor Freight quality is good enough for my purposes.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:13:07

I cannot stomach trying to collect all of the Smash or P200s

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:13:18

I have some but I cannot allow myself to go too deep down that rabbit hole

2021-05-11 11:13:32

I don’t like the excess of colors for Pentel smash but I just have the original four colors lol

2021-05-11 11:13:41

CRZRiley has the best smash collection

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:14:19

Just thinking about the number of colors and generations on the P200s is exhausting. I'm glad Jimmy is on that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:14:35

yea need to get him on here

2021-05-11 11:14:53

Yeah he’s great

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:15:07

George too if you can get him.

2021-05-11 11:15:39

Tried reaching out to him via email. Tough guy to get a hold of.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:17:27

He has responded to me a few times. It takes along time though. I try not to bug him unless I know he has something and I need really specific information.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:17:59

he's like Satoshi except for the fact that we know who he is

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:20:59

Who is Satoshi?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-11 11:21:30

the godfather of bitcoin

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2021-05-17 11:16:54

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2021-05-17 16:37:44

Wow this is amazing

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-17 17:08:08

How different are the 1979 and 1980 catalogs with respect to pencils? I suspect that the known pages from 1980 are incomplete.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 20:28:11

*Thread Reply:* Take a look at the reply to the post below

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 19:34:39

I've been tempted to buy some of the downloadable catalogs from ebay but I figured at some point we'll come across someone who has digital copies that is willing to share

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 20:27:34

*Thread Reply:* You mean someone like me?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 20:27:37

*Thread Reply:* https://www.dropbox.com/sh/934ga63sj2ipcet/AAC_V-QuTPFlRI6IY6L8W5cva?dl=0

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 20:29:22

*Thread Reply:* Hah. I wasn’t suggesting that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-17 20:53:40

*Thread Reply:* This is the first time I have posted this. I have DMed it to some people in the past.

🙏 sideKnocks (atxalais), Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 10:50:23

*Thread Reply:* Thank you @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) for sharing this. I am going to have a blast flipping through these.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:20:51

*Thread Reply:* I will second this! Thank you! This is invaluable. I'll try not to disappear while i digest all of this.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-21 20:34:57

*Thread Reply:* I added 5 new 2020 or 2021 catalogs to the dropbox folder. France 2021 Malaysia 2021-2022 Mexico 2019-2020 Switzerland 2021 Taiwan 2020-2021

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-21 20:37:06

*Thread Reply:* I am currently working on the Japanese 2021-2022 catalog, but you can only download 1 page at a time, and it is 240 pages. Then I have to put them together.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-21 20:42:27

*Thread Reply:* Do you want help downloading? We can split up the work.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-22 08:10:15

*Thread Reply:* It has been compiled and uploaded.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-22 10:59:00

*Thread Reply:* That is awesome! I got wrapped up trying to figure out how to download the whole cataalog. After thinking about it a bit more it should be possible with a script or wget.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-22 11:01:16

*Thread Reply:* wget. Now you’re speaking my language

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-22 15:15:26

*Thread Reply:* wget is not a crime

2021-12-13 14:27:12

*Thread Reply:* Holy shit @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)

2021-12-13 14:28:21

*Thread Reply:* This is amazing.

2021-12-13 14:29:14

*Thread Reply:* I’m not going to get any work done today!

👀 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
2021-12-13 14:37:04

*Thread Reply:* Oh my, there is another side clicker - the PD1065, pg 14 in the ’79 catalog. I never knew about this one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 14:40:58

*Thread Reply:* Ask @Knocktype11 when that one came out. 😉

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-13 14:54:30

*Thread Reply:* 1975. Pentel's first side clicker. They are trying to bury the history of this one. I don't know why they are not claiming it as the first.

2021-12-13 14:56:51

*Thread Reply:* I see that in their comments about the PD345.

2021-12-13 14:59:58

*Thread Reply:* When did the ones with Pentel Clic on the side come out? I’m guessing not in the US…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:01:30

*Thread Reply:* As far as I know 1975.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:01:38

*Thread Reply:* I touch upon that on my blog post

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:01:38

*Thread Reply:* https://sideknocks.blogspot.com/2020/06/1977-05-mm-opaque-complete-set.html

sideknocks
2021-12-13 15:05:44

*Thread Reply:* Ah right, I’ve read that. Thank you.

2021-12-13 15:06:08

*Thread Reply:* I was wondering if that was yours

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:29:05

*Thread Reply:* Yea I started a blog and then it quickly got moved down to the bottom of the priority list.

2021-12-13 15:34:17

*Thread Reply:* That happens. Kudos to folks producing content.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-17 22:52:36

I have that catalog! I did find all of the mappings but they have since been lost. I'll recreate them from the 2006 catalog. The Tradios are also in the 2009/2020 Switzerland catalog.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 10:56:49

What is this? I have a P205 that has Donald Duck

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:27:37

*Thread Reply:* I have seen those only in the insert. The text above the picture says "Disney Sharp / for learning with pictures". So they are aimed at students learning to write. There is no indication of the lead diameter. Likely only for the Japanese market only. It is worth noting that this is one of the few pencils that has the Japanese phonetic characters "ぺんてる" for "Pentel". This is on my list of pencils to find.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:30:28

*Thread Reply:* what model is it?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:36:36

*Thread Reply:* I don't see any model number at all. Even weirder is the fact that the lead hardness (HB) is printed on the pencil.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:38:25

*Thread Reply:* Yes, that's what is throwing me off.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:38:36

*Thread Reply:* What is the shape? It's not a p200

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:54:18

*Thread Reply:* It is a 0.9mm from the Pentel of Japan - 1970 one-sheet.pdf in my catalog file. If you look at the bottom of the 0.5mm section, there is a pencil with the same profile and it is the only one I see with a model number (S-105), so I would start looking for an S-109, maybe. Doing a Google search, I cannot find anything resembling the S-105.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 11:57:20

*Thread Reply:* Hexagonal. Given that there is a similar model S105 maybe this is a S109.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 12:11:52

*Thread Reply:* That whole sheet is confusing.: the 1970 copyright, the old Pentel logo, the Sharp 11 models which should have not overlapped with the P20x line. Pentel is a puzzle. Every answer comes with 2 more questions.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 12:15:54

*Thread Reply:* Yes it does. Pentel is confusing.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 12:24:39

*Thread Reply:* Sometimes I think they are intentionally messing with me.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 15:45:25

Here’s my Donald Duck P205. I believe it dates back to the early 70s and may actually be model DP205.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-01 16:29:17

*Thread Reply:* I have a couple of questions about this pencil.

  1. Does it have a raised size molded into the underside (opposite the cutout)?
  2. On the sticker, at the bottom right (if it was flat), there is probably a 2-digit code (number then letter). If so, what is that code?
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:40:13

*Thread Reply:* 1. Not following the question

  1. 7E
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:51:00

*Thread Reply:* In my blog post, https://nimrodd.net/2017/03/12/p200-the-second-generation-and-the-thirdand-the-fourth-and-so-on/. If you slide down to look at Generations 2 & 3, they have a size molded (raised) on the opposite side from the cutout. I am asking if this is a Generation 2/3 or Generation 4 body.

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:52:26

*Thread Reply:* Also, one other question. What is the mold mark (following the "JAPAN", right below the Pentel in the cutout), and does it have a "·"(dot) following the mold mark?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:52:43

*Thread Reply:* Gen 4. No size

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:54:55

*Thread Reply:* Pentel JAPAN 24 (small circle dot)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:55:51

*Thread Reply:* Thanks.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:56:58

*Thread Reply:* These are so rare, I am trying to find any information about them. Also, I believe that the 7E is the Pentel Date Code, meaning this was manufactured in May, 1977.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 10:57:29

*Thread Reply:* Which lines up with Gen 4

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-02 14:47:12

*Thread Reply:* It pushes Gen 4 back a year from what I guessed. I had never seen anything that indicated a date for that change, so I always estimated 1978 for the initial Gen 4.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 16:49:37

I believe that is a P565. I have a Minnie Mouse, and two Popeye pencils. From what I can tell these are actually from the late 70’s to early 80’s, as I wrote about in my blog post https://nimrodd.net/2019/11/04/character-pencils-disney-popeye/

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 16:54:35

Oh lord. If I find out there are Popeye PD345s I will flip. I have a couple of vintage Disney Quicker Clickers that are super cool. Those are DPD345.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 17:03:19

*Thread Reply:* Disney now? DA402s Donald and Minnie. I haven't seen non-Disney A402 pencils before.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 17:04:47

*Thread Reply:* What is an A402?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 17:08:15

*Thread Reply:* Oh I have some of these. Clear though.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 17:10:06

*Thread Reply:* Tokyo Disney?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 17:11:24

*Thread Reply:* I’ll have to dig them out

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-18 17:12:16

*Thread Reply:* Also these .5mm not .2mm which makes me think they are only for Disney and were not sold by Pentel.

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2021-05-18 18:07:33

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-18 18:14:38

Here is a DA409. Actually haven’t looked at this in ages.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-21 15:18:43

Pentel Sharplet 501 (Q555) I have not seen these in any of the catalogs. Does anyone have any idea when/where they were sold? There is also a Sharplet 500 as well (Q455) which is very similar. I am not collecting Sharplets, they are accumulating in my house though.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-21 15:25:42

George has some. Maybe he knows.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-21 15:25:48

I think at least the 90s

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-21 16:04:47

Image search turns up Black, Blue, Green, and Burgundy colors so 90s or 2000s seems about right. That clip though. It has a 80's vibe to it. This may be my favorite of the Sharplets. George has at least the Burgundy ones.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-26 00:03:53

Pentel "Nine"

The Pentel "Nine" was an inexpensive early knock-type pencil. It featured an all plastic body and a metal clutch an a reservoir which could hold a single 9.9mm lead. The styling is basic but functional. The colors (Black, Red, Blue, and Yellow) are relatively bright for Pentel's early pencils. These show up on auction sites occasionally but searching for them does not turn up an excessive number of results. There were two generations of this model. The first generation had the old Pentel logo and the second featured the new logo.

Unofficial model number: 9 Name: "Nine" Lead Size: 0.9mm Body: Smooth plastic Grip: Smooth plastic Clip: metal Eraser: none Period: early to late 60's Colors: A Black B Red C Blue G Yellow Dimensions: Lx:135.5 TtG:15.5 GtC:61.2 Gx:8.5 Gn:6

Notes: The color codes are not official. Examples of Black, Red, Blue, and Yellow have been recorded, but other colors may have been produced. In the 1970 slip the Nine pencils were listed at 100 Yen which put them at the lowest end of the range. There is no lead sleeve on this model.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-26 13:41:50

I remember these pencils. My dad used to have them at the office.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-05-28 18:17:22

The picture represents my entire collection of this model. Having the full set of the first generation pencils is one of my goals for the collection.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-05-28 18:19:09

I’ll keep an eye open for them during my browsings.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-02 18:17:12

I’m not into Pianissimos but the graphic on this listing sure is pleasing to me. 😀

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-02 18:27:07

*Thread Reply:* That is a really nice graphic! Some version of it could be your avatar.

2021-06-02 18:20:25

I’m trying to collect all these original colors. Missing the orange one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-02 19:03:32

There are so many color varieties of them. It would be tough collecting them. But at least they are more affordable than other models.

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2021-06-15 23:07:11

P205 Gold & Silver limited edition

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 13:00:49

I just received my Gold pencils today.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-16 13:15:20

What region(s) are these released in?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 13:15:42

I saw you had the silver one Jimmy. Is the gold part of the same release?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 13:53:34

Yes, both the gold and silver are part of the same release.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 14:09:30

@Knocktype11 These seem to be released in two different regions according to the barcodes on the items. Pencil Color US Barcode TW Barcode P205-1X Gold 884854054869 4711557064437 P205-1Z Silver 884854054876 4711557064444

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 14:13:33

All of the pencils I have use the US barcode. I am going to try to get some from Taiwan, but that will probably be a couple of months when my friends get back to Korea.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 14:15:11

@Ray What are the barcodes on your pencils?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-16 14:23:42

The Taiwan barcodes were new to me, so I had to look up the codes at GS1.org to find the country and registration. They said that the check digit was wrong on these and that they should end in 3 instead of 7 (Gold) and 0 instead of 4 (Silver).

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-17 12:26:25

It's been a while since I looked at eBay listings. Looks like there's some serious asking prices on some pieces now. On one side I think it's pretty cool to see the perceived value on our collections going up but on the other side I prefer pieces to stay reasonable so that new collectors can acquire pieces.

dave davidson ([email protected])
2021-06-17 14:15:53

*Thread Reply:* Double edged sword mate

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-17 14:59:45

*Thread Reply:* Looking at the sold items is much more instructive. You can ask whatever you want. What people actually paid is where the rubber meets the road. Still some high prices there but mostly on the ones with usually high prices.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-17 15:02:30

*Thread Reply:* That’s a good point.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-17 15:22:54

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, you can ask whatever you want, like $700+ for one of Lindsay Wilson's all metal PG5 pencils.🤣

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-17 15:23:48

*Thread Reply:* But still. It seems like there’s more listings now which means the Bobbie isn’t dying.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-06-17 15:24:02

*Thread Reply:* Hobby. Not Bobbie. I hope Bobbie doesn’t die.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-17 15:24:06

*Thread Reply:* I keep waiting to win the lottery, so I can afford to buy a Pentel Mechanica.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-17 15:38:40

*Thread Reply:* I hear that. I want a mechanicas with the old logo. A little caliper time with one might be enough.

2021-06-18 10:39:58

The bar code on mine

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-19 22:27:45

In case anyone is interested, there is a Yellow P219 up on eBay right now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/353540494453

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-20 01:14:09

*Thread Reply:* What is the P219? I don't see it in any of the catalogs? Do you have a guess on years?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-20 17:51:49

*Thread Reply:* This is a first generation. Best guess is about 1. The second generation P219 is red. Here is my blog post about it. https://nimrodd.net/2017/11/27/p210-series/

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-20 17:53:02

*Thread Reply:* I have seen these referred to as Commercial pencils.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-23 00:14:56

This is the back of a flyer which describes commemorative stamps to be released between April 1975 and March 1976. One would presume that it was produced in late 1974 or early 1975.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-24 14:28:32

I received an e-mail from someone to my blog about a week ago asking be about some marks on his P200 pencils (newer ones) under the clip, in line with the printed text. This mark was "8F". I remembered seeing similar codes in the text on the GraphGear 500 & 1000. In looking at other pencils, the highest letter I remember seeing was "L", which being the 12th letter of the English alphabet, made me think that this is a month code, which would probably make the number, the last digit of the year of manufacture.

I just got a reply today from Pentel confirming this suspicion.

I don't remember off-hand which pencil, but I have seen it on other Graph or GraphGear pencils printed under the clip as well.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-24 14:35:11

*Thread Reply:* By "Under the clip" do you mean in the cutout that holds the clip in place? This is interesting information!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-24 15:31:29

*Thread Reply:* Yes. If you rotate the clip so that the opening at the back is lined up with the text printed on the side, you should be able to see something if it is there (I only have one pencil to look at here at work).

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-24 15:37:30

*Thread Reply:* I just saw this on the way out so it will have to wait until tonight to check my hoard. How recent is this? Is 8==2018?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-24 18:42:54

*Thread Reply:* The person at Pentel said that they could be from 2008 or 2018. There is no way to tell from just a pencil. If they were in a tray that had the lot number, then you could tell what year, but I don't have any info on the lots.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-24 20:45:40

*Thread Reply:* It some searching but I found a pencil made this century. It is a GG500 (PG525) and it has a 9E after the other printing (most likely 2019). I found another one and it has a 1F (most likely 2011). I don't have any P20x pencils that are new enough to be covered by these date codes.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-24 22:09:16

*Thread Reply:* I just realized that I have some more modern pencils. The code is on the Orenz nero also. Mine are: 0J and 8A

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-24 22:28:05

*Thread Reply:* So those should be October 2020 and January 2018.

I did not find it on all modern P200s, but it is on several of them, including ones made in Brazil, although theirs are printed on, instead of stamped on like the Japanese pencils.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-06-24 22:37:51

*Thread Reply:* On the neros the code is printed. I don't have the heart to remove the clip from a non-nero orenz.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-25 07:21:18

*Thread Reply:* I removed it on two of them and did not find a code under there.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-06-28 08:30:24

New post on my blog about some custom pencils + one retail. https://nimrodd.net/2021/06/28/custom-pentel-p205-pencils-iii/

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-07-06 22:36:47

I just received this pencil today. It is a P205B Generation 2 pencil (early 70's) that I got from the Netherlands.

Before today, I did not know that the P205B was manufactured before Generation 5 (late 80's), but it appears that it was just not available in the US. Now that I know to look for these, I hope to find more to fill the gap (Gen 3 & 4).

It did not appear on the German 1975 page, so I did not suspect it to exist.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-07-08 12:46:30

Someone on Reddit commented that the P205B that I posted looked like a Pentel Eleven in the picture. It got me thinking that the grip of the P200 could be a tribute to it's predecessor. The grip of all P200's have 11 rings.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-07-08 14:20:51

*Thread Reply:* This could be, but given Pentel's somewhat tenuous grasp on history I would bet not unless the P200 designers actually confirmed it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-07-08 14:23:37

*Thread Reply:* I've also heard that the Pentel 11 was named the 11 because it has 11 sides. It actually has 12.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-07-08 15:37:17

*Thread Reply:* I saw that mentioned as well. If you look in the middle section of the P200 pencils, it also has 11 sides, but that is because 2 sides are merged to form a cleaner print area

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-07-08 14:39:00

As per the mention of the Pentel 11 by @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) previously. I have been looking at this model recently and found some interesting information. The model number is S305. The very last generation did not even include 11 anywhere on it and had the new logo. This is a very interesting page on the S305 and Pentel 11 history (in Korean): https://m.blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?isHttpsRedirect=true&blogId=legoking55&logNo=221752455499 Here is an earlier page on the 11 only (also in Korean): https://m.blog.naver.com/penessay/100141571686

These pages have some pretty mind-blowing information (specifically .7 .9 and 1.1mm lead sizes) and are worth running through your favorite translator.

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-07-31 14:18:46

Recently an auction on yahoo.jp finished for a pencil which I am not completely sure was a legit Pentel. It is a double-knock Pentel: https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=572250555

Has anyone seen this pencil in real life? Do you know the model number? The top metal part is real but the mechanism, grip, tip, and cap look more like a Pilot to my eye.

zenmarket.jp
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-07-31 21:39:29

I have not seen this before. Opposite colors from the PSD5 (black body, silver grip). The tip is different from it as well, and I don't remember ever seeing anything like the "W" on the opposite side from the "Pentel 5".

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-07-31 21:40:13

Did you win this auction?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-07-31 23:07:45

The fact that there are threads on the grip which are not used makes me very suspicious. I vaguely recall seeing a "W" on the top part of a pencil before. It was before I really paying attention to (or could tell) what was unusual. The color setup matches the "accounting" pencils.

Sadly I did not win this one. It went for more that I wanted to pay for it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-08-02 01:23:09

I found a tweet with the same pencil. There was no indication about the model number. https://twitter.com/PENTELPG1000/status/1391357780334764039

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 18:30:28

This is the type of pencil which makes me happy. On first look it is a classic deluxe. But it has some features which made me reevaluate my understanding of this line. It must be from the 60s since it has the old logo. But, this is the only one from this era that I have seen with a gold colored top. All of the other S5x pencils have had silver/grey tops. There is alot of variation there also but that is another topic. The kicker is this pencil uses 0.9mm lead! But wait, it has a big 5 and the word "five" on it. What is going on here? A mismatched lead size and number on the front places it before this was standardized. Some later models of the S59 had gold tops, but not all. Some even had silver tops and a large 9. I know that there was a 0.7mm model produced with a 5 on it also.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:06:35

Do you own this?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:12:00

Yes! It is one of my favorites at the moment. I have been accumulating this series for a while and am on the lookout for other oddballs.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:12:49

Glad you found this. Do you have a group shot of your collection?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:17:35

Not a good one. These are spread across several cases at the moment. Good idea though..

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:37:31

Extended family snap shots. A reorg is in the works.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:51:00

That’s looking great. @Ƶ would love all of those with the original labels still on.

🙌 Ƶ
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:51:29

Those are the best cases too. I have a bunch of those that I keep a good bit of the collection in.

2021-09-28 19:52:55

You're right! Haha. I'm actually looking for the S57 and S59 with vintage Japanese stickers lol

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:55:15

I really like the cases too. Part of the reorg is moving the better pencils into these cases and some pencils into somebody elses cases.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:56:54

https://www.axminstertools.com/us/30-piece-pen-case-700274?glCountry=US&glCurrency=USD|https://www.axminstertools.com/us/30-piece-pen-case-700274?glCountry=US&glCurrency=USD

Axminster Tools
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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:56:59

This is where I get mine

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:57:09

The stickers are less important to me than other condition and weirdness.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 19:57:33

I also get a good bit of single frame cases for the individual pieces I leave out to showcase.

2021-09-28 19:59:56

Yeah It's just another one of my weird quirks. Lol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:25:17

*Thread Reply:* That one on the right (in the first picture), looks like an older S59.

2021-09-28 20:00:34

I've got the S55. So the hunt continues!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:02:12

I have 8 of these cases

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:02:14

https://www.thewoodturningstore.com/legacy-black-leather-pen-case-48pcs/

The Woodturning Store
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:02:21

The yellow sticker on the S55 is a new one on me.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:02:58

Has anyone who’s collected for a while ever, after a long night of searching blog posts and old Japanese listings for information, question what the heck are you doing and consider ending this journey? I’ve started and stoped many times and have put the collection in storage several times.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:05:11

The 30 pen case is more efficient in a dollar/pencil but is less dense. I also get mine from the Woodturning Store.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:06:30

Everytime I run out of space in my cases I wonder why I am doing this. But then I find another weird bit of information or a different pencil and the juices are going again.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:06:41

Exactly

2021-09-28 20:06:42

I just want to take a trip to japan and visit vintage shops….

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:07:30

Does anyone have information on the Person’s collection?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:08:54

Nope! I am not looking at the Person's collection. I am averting my eyes, covering my ears, and humming.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:10:58

From what I’ve gathered it was a collaboration between Pentel and a Japanese clothing company called Persons. They had pencils, pens, and school supplies. I mostly became interested in the collection when I came across some unique color pd355s that I had never seen before.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:13:02

It does seem like they did quite a few unique pencils with Persons. These were not just branded Sharplet-2s.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:13:44

I have some of the pieces that are obviously clothing inspired but some also feature a character called “Shower Man”. This is just one example of the weird stuff we can’t quite put the pieces together on.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:14:06

I just picked up a Person's pen by mistake (I was searching for pencils). It should be here from Japan, this week or next.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-29 12:49:42

*Thread Reply:* It just arrived. A nice PB6 in black, green & red.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:21:33

How long is your P545? I have 2 of them, and they are different sizes; 132mm & 142mm.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-28 20:31:26

You are killing me Jimmy! I think the longer one might be a different model. Mine are 129mm. I only measured once though. 🙂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-28 21:39:52

I stopped as well several years ago, sometimes around 2014. I then started back up and haven't stopped since.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-29 14:59:00

I followed DMP for a number of years. I didn't really start collecting until a couple years ago. Most of the first part was done by wandering around my house gathering up the various pencils sitting around.

2021-09-29 15:00:02

Jimmy, you can't stop collecting, you're an institution!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-29 15:17:29

I started collecting in 2009, as a general mech pencil collection, then specialized in P200’s in 2011 or so, when Pentel started coming out with all sorts of color variations.

2021-09-30 10:48:44

Anybody know what the Pentels in the far right are called?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-09-30 10:53:21

PS65

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-09-30 10:53:45

Ps35 ps45 and ps65 left to right

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-09-30 10:54:39

https://web.archive.org/web/20110702164149/http://leadholder.com/cat-pentel-1980-p20.html

web.archive.org
2021-09-30 11:01:13

Ah thank you gentlemen.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-09 12:32:12

Any Kerry experts in the house?

I know of two generations of Kerry: The first which had the "5" under the clip and the second which has "Kerry since 1971" under the clip. The first generation had a cleanout rod integrated into the body end cap. This does not seem to be present in the second generation. Are there finer or less obvious changes between Kerry's of today vs the generation produced in 1971? I know that colors have come and gone and there have been a couple of special editions. I'm not asking about those, only main-line models.

Even though the P1037 pencils say "since 1971", I don't think that they were introduced until later. I have not seen any with a "7" on the front. The first time it shows up in any catalog is 2006. Does anyone have any verifiable information about this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-09 15:23:00

Here is a photo of 4 different guts of these pencils. From the Bottom to Top

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-09 15:30:27

Bottom to Top Late 70's-Early 80's Triangular Price Sticker - Notice that the attachment just behind the spring is clamped all the way around. Also, the lead reservoir cap is slightly different from the others.

Early 80's-late 80's Square Price Sticker - Attachment point is just clamped on 2 sides with a relatively wide bite.

Early 2000's Kerry Since 1971 - Attachment clamp is like the second from bottom, but is narrower.

Brand New Silver Gold Kerry Legend - Attachment clamp is not as clean as the early 2000's, and the base the spring rests on is no longer brass, but plastic.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-09 15:46:53

*Thread Reply:* Thanks for this! I will have to tear down mine and compare. It seems like the clamping fixture is lasts about 10 years before it is replaced and at that time they look for ways to reduce costs.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-09 23:05:12

*Thread Reply:* I looked at one of mine with a 1982 date code. it has the later cap with cleanout pin and a 3 side clamp. I'll look a the other ones soon. I think 82 is the latest date code I have seen on a reservoir tube. But, this is from a vague recollection not from good record keeping.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-12 08:30:14

I finally made a new post on my blog, updating my April review of the Pentel P205 "Since 1970" pencils.

https://nimrodd.net/2021/10/11/pentel-p205-since-1970-take-2/

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-10-12 15:22:53

Awesome! Can't wait to read it.

I tried the blogging thing but didn't get too far before life interrupted. I think I got 4 posts in.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-10-12 15:23:09

http://sideknocks.com

sideknocks.blogspot.com
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-12 15:52:00

That catalog page on the 1977 Opaque pencil also contains the ONLY place I have ever heard of the PS255 pencils. I would love to find them, as well as the P227 & P229.

2021-10-13 21:17:08

*Thread Reply:* Do you have a picture of the page in the catalogue?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-14 07:16:20

*Thread Reply:* Click on the Sidenocks Blog above, then click on the 1977 0.5 MM OPAQUE COMPLETE SET post, then slide to the bottom.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-12 20:50:47

I've been looking for those also. Even the non-black P225s are pretty thin on the ground.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-12 21:28:31

*Thread Reply:* I managed to get a full set of the 5 P225 pencils, as well as a box of white P225 pencils without any text.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-12 23:10:14

*Thread Reply:* I have a weird white one which looks like it was for a baseball game or something. It has a retail sticker on it. The only part which translates is "Good Luck!" The rest looks like pronouns.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-13 00:16:06

What is a P135? It is listed in the lead diameter section of the Pentel US 1982 catalog under Writing Pencils. It is not listed elsewhere in the catalog. I currently have this filed under "Real Pentel or Typo?". Most likely it is typo QC was not too good in that section since they include S55 twice, maybe because it is so nice.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-13 07:22:47

Probably a P1035 or P1135 with a dropped character.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-25 07:55:28

New post on my blog about the Loft Pastel Limited Edition Pentel P205 pencils. https://nimrodd.net/2021/10/25/loft-pastel-limited-edition-pencils/

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-25 13:33:30

Internals of P545 I don't have dates for these pencils. Given the internals and the fact that they are not in any of the 1979 or later catalogs they were likely only made during the early 70s. Thr reservoir clamp on one has some weird additional clamp marks.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-25 14:15:44

*Thread Reply:* Adding better picture of the yellow one.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-25 14:25:17

*Thread Reply:* Can you measure yours and let me know how long they are? I will measure mine and post that as well.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-25 15:08:44

*Thread Reply:* Lx: 130.3 TtG: 8.3 GtC: 67.2 Gn: 5.8 Gx: 8.9 Sx: 2 Everything is in mm

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-25 20:33:27

*Thread Reply:* My yellow is 131.27mm. The red one is 141.59mm.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-25 20:54:05

*Thread Reply:* I wonder why it would be a cm longer. I'm going to refer to the longer one as a gen 2 P545 unless you have a reason for a different designation.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-26 07:00:43

*Thread Reply:* I am not sure either. I am glad to now know which one is the "standard" size.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-26 12:42:56

*Thread Reply:* How long is is the silver top part for the long one? I measured some of the writing pencils and found the following lengths of the top section (not including the cap): S55 67mm ML5 72mm P505 56mm P545 63mm These are not exactly what I expected.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-26 16:24:00

*Thread Reply:* I had a thought that maybe there was some re-use going on here but now I am beginning to doubt that. Another thought is that you have a franken-SP545. That longer one is a mystery

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-10-27 21:55:57

*Thread Reply:* Shorty, like yours is 63mm. Tallboy is 73mm.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-10-28 10:43:35

*Thread Reply:* I found another tallboy picture with little to no additional information: http://mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com/2013/05/pentel-5_14.html

mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-03 23:41:57

*Thread Reply:* Just found this image of a previous auction. On the left you can see 3 of the P545 with the 2 sizes.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-03 23:42:14

*Thread Reply:* https://aucview.com/yahoo/537858232/

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-04 17:47:24

*Thread Reply:* The long one looks about 10mm longer. So much for the franken-pencil idea!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-01 17:46:41

P1075 and ? The green one is labeled P1075 but the black one only has Pentel 0.5 and Japan. I have been considering these as the same model but there are enough differences that I am not so sure. Does anyone have a reference or a model number for the black unpainted one?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-01 17:53:13

*Thread Reply:* I have a few of the black ones and some have plastic reservoirs and some have metal. Any idea when they started adding the JIS stickers?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-01 20:22:45

*Thread Reply:* The larger JIS sticker was started in the late 70's. The fact that they have a different price leads me to think they might be a different model.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-01 20:36:58

*Thread Reply:* I found this while searching http://mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com/2013/05/pentel-p1075.html

mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-01 21:13:11

*Thread Reply:* I have seen that site. It has alot of nice images. I was thinking the same thing about the price. I have a very small sample size but the metal resivoir pencils in this set have the small stickers. They also do not have date codes so they are most likely from the early 70s.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 08:11:56

Just posted a new blog about the new Brazilian Pentel P200 Hybrids and Metallics. https://nimrodd.net/2021/11/08/new-brazilian-metallics-and-hybrids/

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2021-11-08 08:12:25

Awesome, thanks Jimmy!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:06:04

This weekend, I picked up some new (to me) pencils from Yahoo Auctions Japan. Of course, they are currently being shipped to a forwarder at this time, so I won't see them until December. I picked up 3 P565 Disney pencils (https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r1016263030), a couple of cartoon P225s (https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/1016823978 and https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v1016805343), a PS705 (https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x1016269275), and this morning a different Rush On Goal (this makes 6 for me - https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t1016542974)

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:06:57

I am going to try to pick up the 2 new Light Blue and Gold Kerry's, plus the 50th Anniversary Kerry's that should be released next week.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:17:38

I constantly stop myself from collecting the p200s but those Disney ones I would jump on.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:17:42

Which proxy do you use?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:27:37

I use ZenMarket.jp

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:28:03

This is my 8th order through them, and I have never had any problems.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 11:31:34

yeah I used them for a while. Been using Buyee lately since I shop both Yahoo! auctions and Mercari and they can proxy for both.

2021-11-08 11:33:15

I usually use buyee too.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-08 12:10:46

Zenmarket for everything except mercari.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 13:00:14

I’ve never ordered from Mercari

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-08 13:00:32

I will have to check it out.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-17 17:36:26

Known Pop'npop models? I've been working on a list but it is likely not complete: PD515 PD335 Q535 Q604 Q605 P105 P595 A15 PBS1 and Pens: RS10 SP10 I think there is also a correcting tape dispenser of unknown model number.

The Q604 and Q605 are completely different pencils. They are not the same model with different lead sizes. Pentel is always keeping it interesting!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-24 13:10:35

*Thread Reply:* Here is the US Patent Office Trademark Registration filing for Pop'npop. https://uspto.report/TM/73339872

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-24 13:13:00

*Thread Reply:* And another page that lists other trademarks of Pentel.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-24 13:13:02

*Thread Reply:* https://www.trademarkia.com/company-pentel-kabushiki-kaisha-940974-page-1-2

trademarkia.com
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-24 14:06:12

*Thread Reply:* Excellent! I ran across that site in the past but forgot about it completely. The two P595s in my hands have 1979 date codes on the reservoir.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-19 21:08:22

Monday 11/22, I have a post going up on my blog about a couple of new P200 box sets. I will be travelling and probably won't have access to my computer until that evening.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-19 21:12:15

This should be the direct link once it goes live: https://nimrodd.net/2021/11/22/p200-since-1970-box-sets/

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-22 06:01:32

Link above is now live.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-22 06:53:11

Great post and more Pentel madness! Glad you got that second box to clear up the confusion.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-11-22 06:53:54

That classic series box is fantastic.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-22 12:13:54

Agreed, this is an excellent writeup. Pencil boxes are truly not appreciated enough. This is also a fine example of Pentel leaving "gifts" for future historians.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-29 16:24:04

Down the Pentel Rabbit Hole to find the P245

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-29 16:24:10

I started down a rabbit hole this afternoon involving Pentel. I was looking for an answer that someone asked on another post about 0.2mm pencils. I found this website (http://pentel.blog.jp/) and it's post about the Orenz 0.2mm and it's predecessor.

I then checked out some of the other posts and came across this one (http://pentel.blog.jp/archives/10412223.html) about the Graph 1000. About half-way down, I saw a picture of some Pentels that I did not recognize, the P115, which they said was probably a predecessor to the Graph 1000 grip.

I decided to look at my catalogs to see if I could find this one listed, but all I found were the P105, P125 & P145. I was familiar with the P105, but off-hand, could not picture the P125 or P145, so I looked them up in the catalogs.

The P145 appeared only in 1 catalog that I have a PDF of, the 1997 International catalog on page 91. When I took a look at it, I thought, that is the second generation of P245.

From my other catalogs, I find that the P245 (1st gen) was released in 1979, and also appears in the 1982 catalog.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nimrodd/51714542344

My next catalog (US 1984) shows the second generation. This one appears in the 1985, 1990-91 & 1994 US catalogs, with the 1990-91 & 1994 catalogs also including the P247, and also giving it the name Bravo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nimrodd/51713880166

Looking for other information about the P245, I found this post (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/9ndszn/pentel_bravo_p245_p247_with_question/) by u/foetusized from 3 years ago, where he asked about the 2mm/4mm tip variation.

I came across what is probably the answer to the question he asked. In the 1984, 1985 & 1990-91 catalogs, these description partially reads "Features a 2mm fixed sleeve." In the 1994 catalog reads "with 4mm fixed sleeve for template work."

The next US catalog I have is the 2000-2001, and the P245 is no longer listed, but in the 1997 Internaional catalog, they list as coming from Taiwan, the P143, P145, P147 & P149, and they look exactly the same.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nimrodd/51714142983

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-29 21:58:39

*Thread Reply:* Nice sleuthing! Rabbit holes can be fun, but hoo-boy they can take a long time. One minute you are doing an image search and a few short hours later you are trying to trying to use google translate on your phone on an image in Korean from a picture of a white board and looking at an article on pre-war staplers.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-30 07:26:03

*Thread Reply:* Yes, then trying to write up your notes in a coherent way so that you, or someone else can understand them. Because you are not starting at A, you are starting at L, then finding G, next O, then T, hey, there is K, leading back into L, so I have circled back around, but still don't have the whole picture.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-30 07:28:45

*Thread Reply:* Also, back to my original post, last night, I noticed that there are 3 versions of what I am calling the Generation 1. The ones shown in the catalog, and the one I own do not have any text on them. Then there is a Generation 1a with text on it, with the "m/m". https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/four-vintage-pentel-p245-mechanical-1946782224 Then there is a Generation 1b with the "mm". https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pentel-p245-black-plastic-5mm-1814410267

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-11-29 16:24:45

I also posted this over on Reddit

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-11-30 17:06:33

This is new. For some time in the late 70s to maybe the early 80s Pentel printed a date code on some lead reservoirs. All that I have seen have been 6 digits YYMMDD. Today i found one with only 5 digits: 70717. It does not look like the first or laat number has worn off.

Does anyone have a spare clue about this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-02 08:37:36

*Thread Reply:* My assumption would be 1977

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-02 10:08:23

*Thread Reply:* I would tend to agree since it is the only parsing of the numbers which makes sense. Still, odd.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-02 10:47:05

*Thread Reply:* I have seen some that were 5 digits before, and until you (or someone else) started saying they were date codes, I didn't know what they were.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-06 03:16:14

New post up on my blog about the Pentel P205 Pastel/Floral Limited Edition pencils. https://nimrodd.net/2021/12/06/pentel-floral-pastel-limited-edition-pencils/

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-07 20:08:54

*Thread Reply:* I'm a little slow to reply on this. The pastel colors are really nice. There are some regular (PP50x) orenz pencils with very similar colors. The green and blue look very similar. Do you have any of these for comparison? Excellent writeup BTW. Seeing the misprints is different. When you collect mostly vintage pencils it is hard to distinguish wear from manufacturing mistakes.

2021-12-13 11:40:54

@Heath has joined the channel

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:42:52

Hey @Heath! Thanks for joining. This slack group is for all collectors but the pentel channel is the most active.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:43:18

@Knocktype11 I think Heath is also bidding on the 335 Pop n pops.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 14:23:11

*Thread Reply:* @Heath Looks like these have hit close to $75.

2021-12-15 14:24:01

*Thread Reply:* I saw that. I'll strike when it's closer to end time

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 14:24:39

*Thread Reply:* Have you ordered through proxy before?

2021-12-16 06:29:51

*Thread Reply:* nope

2021-12-16 06:30:02

*Thread Reply:* first time

2021-12-16 06:30:35

*Thread Reply:* Using Buyee for this one.

2021-12-16 06:31:56

*Thread Reply:* And for a few other things like the white pd335.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 08:19:36

*Thread Reply:* Cool. I use buyee. I used to use zenmarket but switched to buyee since you can do both yahoo auctions and Mercari

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 08:19:56

*Thread Reply:* I got hammered recently by leaving stock in the warehouse for too long.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 08:19:59

*Thread Reply:* That wasn't cheap

2021-12-16 11:17:25

*Thread Reply:* Good to know.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:43:32

Let's back off and let him take a shot at getting them for a decent price.

2021-12-13 11:47:18

Yeah I just bid on those but please, if one of you want them, I will back off. Where they're in packaging I won't be able to use them. So really, no problem.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:47:56

Nah I have many duplicates of those. Go for it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:48:07

Yea they were in packaging but not the original packaging

2021-12-13 11:48:56

Not on my radar! So best of luck!

2021-12-13 11:49:00

Well thank you.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:49:14

Me and @Knocktype11 were bidding but we'll let you take a swing

2021-12-13 11:49:15

Let us know if we can help with anything else you're looking for.

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:49:33

Here are some of mine in original packaging.

🙌 Ƶ
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 11:49:57

First thing to do if you get some is to take the eraser out. It expands overtime and cracks the plastic

👍 Heath
2021-12-13 11:52:33

Thanks for inviting me to the group! Information over load! This is really awesome. I love all the details and bits of info gleaned from all over. I'm going to be lost in here for a while.

2021-12-13 11:58:02

Right now my biggest question is what other metal tips fit the PD34x series? I've seen at least two different ones - the Tradio and then another that's a different shape. Maybe it's just the one from the 515s but it seems like that was so limited that they wouldn't make it just for it??

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-13 12:30:55

I already have all that I need and will hold off bidding. Welcome @Heath and good luck!

👍 Heath
2021-12-13 13:13:20

Thanks everyone.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:06:08

I am bidding on this one which I believe is a S15. It is along the lines of my main collection: https://www.ebay.com/itm/165231793421?hash=item267895150d:g:OtYAAOSwIJRht35E&autorefresh=true

eBay
👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:14:02

I'm not familiar with the S15. Do you know when it came out, and what country?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:31:23

It is in the 1970 sheet but is not listed with a model number. Sometimes it is called a 9 or Nine since the first generation was 0.9mm only. It seems that later generatioms had different lead sizes.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:37:17

The claim is that this is 0.3 which would actually make it an S13.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-13 15:50:07

I believe the first gen was Japan only but later may have been in the US.

2021-12-14 12:58:54

Check this out, I found it on Rakuma while just browsing. It was listed as “MILD SEVEN Select” which is apparently a cigarette company.

2021-12-14 13:00:55

I'll have better pics once it arrives.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:05:26

Is that a promotional PD335?

2021-12-14 13:07:16

I can't find any other evidence of it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:12:04

Interesting. I don't collect many of the promo items but here is one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 06:54:41

*Thread Reply:* @Dry

2021-12-20 19:55:06

*Thread Reply:* Very nice. Trying to contain my jealousy 😉

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:56:09

*Thread Reply:* Don't try to collect promo items. Not very cool.

2021-12-20 19:56:39

*Thread Reply:* Gotta get em all

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:57:52

*Thread Reply:* There's a Nintendo pd349 on eBay right now. $95

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:12:31

WPD335

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:13:22

Mizuno World Win

2021-12-14 13:15:41

Closely resembles Pentel jetclic

2021-12-14 13:18:34

Nice. I figured for $5 I’d pick it up. I wonder if it’s just the clip or if anything will be on the barrel.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:22:17

gotta say...what a crappy photo that is

2021-12-14 13:22:46

the only one too

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:23:18

hopefully it has a model # printed on it

2021-12-14 13:24:20

we’ll see when I get it

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:32:19

Isn't the model number molded into the part with the clip on the PD335?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:33:04

I mean if it has a special model number like the video above.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 13:34:14

the clip has PD335 but the barrel has WPD335 in kick ass silver ink

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-14 14:04:21

What is a "Baseball Kingdom" ?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-14 14:15:06

I think World Win was a product line by Mizuno

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:45:18

Enjoying this piece today. PQ11 turned PD345

2021-12-15 18:48:41

Not sure I know what the PQ11 is

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:49:32

Here's one of mine in orange. They also have hot pink like above and green.

2021-12-15 18:50:50

FFS now I have another set to find!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:51:03

It's based off of the Quicksharp PD355

2021-12-15 18:53:32

Are there just the two? Only really seeing orange and that red you have.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:53:49

There's a green

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:54:02

Some people pay over $100 for a single one

2021-12-15 18:55:21

Is the green a side clicker too?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:56:12

Yeah. All of the PQ11s are the same quicker clicker you know but with the Quicksharp eraser top

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:56:58

I pretty much only click side knocks that are that base model.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:57:28

So that's the pd325, 335, 345,7,9, and 355

2021-12-15 18:57:35

Yeah I like that line.

2021-12-15 18:58:41

Both for keeping things from getting crazy collecting and also because I grew up with the QC.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:58:44

I don't touch Side FX , Techniclick or Pianissimo

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:58:49

Same

2021-12-15 18:59:03

Yeah those are not very nice

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 18:59:44

But I do have some of the pd1065 and 1055

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 19:00:12

Also the original side knock, the Pecker

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 19:00:36

And I don't have any of the quicker clickers with rubber grips.

2021-12-15 19:00:59

You gotta have some other stuff in the collection.

2021-12-15 19:01:17

Yeah I only have those for being abused

2021-12-15 19:01:44

I don't cart around any of my good ones.

2021-12-15 19:02:15

The rubber just ends up sliding off

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-15 19:03:02

Couldn't tell ya. Never used one.

2021-12-15 19:21:09

We'll when it was all I knew I could get I had to settle. 🤪

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 09:24:02

You may all know this but if not......

I shop on Yahoo! Auctions and Mercari and use Buyee as the proxy. (I originally used ZenMarket as the proxy but Buyee can proxy for both Yahoo and Mercari.)

When searching either directly on Yahoo! Auctions or Mercari you can get different results based off of searching in english or Japanese. If I search for "Pentel side knock" vs. "ぺんてる サイドノック" I'll get different results and oftentimes better results with the Japanese search.

You can also sometimes search for both Japanese and English keywords at the same time and get different results.

Also, sometimes product lines like "Pentel Person’s" includes the apostrophe and sometimes it doesn't. It is also sometimes misspelled as "Parsons". So you can also search for possible mispellings.

And lastly, @Knocktype11 knows what I collect so he checks in with me on certain items. Now that @Heath is here, and is starting to collect some of the same items as me, we'll need to coordinate on some items so we don't bid against in each unintentionally. @Ƶ also collects a lot of the same. We all know what @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) collects but he doesn't seem to be missing much 😀.

👍 Heath
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 10:26:28

*Thread Reply:* I usually don't search on Zenmarket except for looking at other auctions by a seller. The same English/Japanese search techniques work on yahoo.jp. Still there seem to be some corner cases which are missed even with both.

2021-12-16 10:31:54

*Thread Reply:* Thanks for the info and for sure about coordination.

2021-12-16 10:33:28

*Thread Reply:* And speaking of coordinating, how can we all buy up these: https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1345.html?name=Pd335

山内屋商店 - 会津
2021-12-16 10:35:43

*Thread Reply:* Anyone use something like transbang? https://www.transbang.com/en-us/welcome/index

transbang.com
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 10:55:40

*Thread Reply:* I am not sure about mercari on the yamauchiya. I have bought from them through zen though. Buying through zen means that each color is a different transaction with separate shipping. But if you buy more than one with a given color the transaction fee is still 300yen. I thought about doing some Popn'Pop arbitrage but decided against it. I will say that the yamauchiya pencils are NOS.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:14:57

*Thread Reply:* I don't need anymore PD335 PopnPops.

2021-12-16 11:19:51

*Thread Reply:* I’m ok with NOS - that way I can use them, and it’s certainly easier to mod them. If it was in original packaging, I would have a really hard time opening it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:25:42

*Thread Reply:* Here's some of my popnpop 335s.

Tip: remove all lead from transparent barrels when storing or the lead will leave residue and darken the barrels.

Also remove eraser from 335s

👍 Heath
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:49:47

*Thread Reply:* Sweet! This is your hero case? So the 30 pen case is shorter than the 48 case. This also reminded me to take the eraser out of my PD335s.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:51:30

*Thread Reply:* I pretty much only use these cases.... https://www.axminstertools.com/us/30-piece-pen-case-700274

Axminster Tools
Price
14.28
Code
700274
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:51:34

*Thread Reply:* great price too

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:52:06

*Thread Reply:* Any pencil I sell I usually place in one of these:

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:52:07

*Thread Reply:* https://www.axminstertools.com/us/embossed-framed-single-pen-case-700321

Axminster Tools
Price
1.38
Code
700321
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:52:24

*Thread Reply:* or this one for cheaper pencils...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 11:52:24

*Thread Reply:* https://www.axminstertools.com/us/pen-presentation-display-boxes-pkt-10-600745

Axminster Tools
Price
10.78
Code
600745
2021-12-16 12:07:17

*Thread Reply:* Those are great

2021-12-16 12:07:22

*Thread Reply:* The cases are a great price too.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 13:18:39

*Thread Reply:* I have always purchased these cases. https://www.thewoodturningstore.com/legacy-black-leather-pen-case-48pcs/

The Woodturning Store
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 14:01:39

*Thread Reply:* They also have the 30 pc case, but the P200's fit in the 48 case neatly. I currently have 8 of these cases, and depending on what Pentel releases I may need more next year.

2021-12-16 16:30:44

*Thread Reply:* Both those options look great. Right now I’m using whatever I can find around the house. A couple jars, a stand I made out of a cereal box…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 16:27:15

Here is an official animation cell I have from a 1977(ish) TV commercial for the Pentel PD345. It's hand drawn and colored. I really need to frame it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 16:28:05

I don't have a copy of the animation but here is a similar one.

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2021-12-16 16:29:28

That’s cool

2021-12-16 16:32:27

I just found a coloring book put out by Pentel.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 16:34:11

*Thread Reply:* Does it have any model PDs in it?

2021-12-16 16:35:53

*Thread Reply:* I don’t have it in hand yet. Here is the item description:

2021-12-16 16:35:56

*Thread Reply:* It will be a large A3 size coloring book that you can enjoy 10 famous paintings from around the world from Pentel Co., Ltd. I kept it without using it. I bought it but didn’t use it, so I will sell it.

2021-12-16 16:36:05

*Thread Reply:* and here are the pics

2021-12-16 16:37:11

*Thread Reply:* Once it arrives, I’ll let you know if there’s anything inside.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 16:38:44

*Thread Reply:* I would be interested if there were pages dedicated to the different models. As in if there was a page that featured a particular pencil that you'd color in.

👍 Heath
2021-12-16 20:48:01

We’ll see how this goes. Instead of the auction, I decided to buy the lot of PD335's at Yamauchiya and have them sent to my Tenso address.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 20:51:03

*Thread Reply:* Awesome! Love me some 335s.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 20:51:17

*Thread Reply:* It won the Good Design award in 1979

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 20:51:38

*Thread Reply:* This was before they realized the defect in the top eraser holder

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 20:51:44

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 20:53:11

*Thread Reply:* None of us really know what the Pop'npop product line actually was

2021-12-16 21:02:29

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, I’m pretty excited.

2021-12-16 21:03:11

*Thread Reply:* So which came first - the one’s with Pop’npop printed on them or the blank one’s?

2021-12-16 21:05:10

*Thread Reply:* And that translucent green one that I think you have? But want to say I’ve seen two versions - white clip and green clip.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:09:20

*Thread Reply:* Blank ones came first

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:09:58

*Thread Reply:* Yup there's transparent barrels with both white and colored pocket clips

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:11:06

*Thread Reply:* My guess is that Pop'npop came out in the early 80s and was two cartoon characters catered to children.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:11:38

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:12:53

*Thread Reply:* Pentel does unexplainable things all the time.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:13:42

*Thread Reply:* We spend way too much time doing detective work

2021-12-16 21:17:57

*Thread Reply:* For sure.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:20:23

*Thread Reply:* I am sure that they are all obvious in context. There may be some parts which are so cultural that we just have to accept it.

2021-12-16 21:22:14

*Thread Reply:* I’m not seeing them in any catalogs after 1980 - am I missing them, or are they not in them? I see the Japan 1980 one.

2021-12-16 21:23:48

*Thread Reply:* I guess if you’re right about the Pop’npop cartoon characters, it might only be in Japan.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:34:01

*Thread Reply:* I believe that they are Japan only also. But the trademark was registered in the US also.

🤷‍♂️ sideKnocks (atxalais)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:39:40

*Thread Reply:* Popn'Pop correction tape still shows up in Mexico and Australia

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-16 21:48:25

*Thread Reply:* Pentel needs to use some correction tape on some of their catalogs. Just saying.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 23:23:02

*Thread Reply:* What do we know: Late 70's early 80's Based on the Q604 and the P105 being Pop'npop. Those drawings look match the style but maybe a little more 70s. There were pens, pencils, and correcting tape. Were there erasers? There was a trademark filing in the US in 81/82. There was a video game but it was from 1997 or so. This feels too late to be a tie-in.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-16 23:25:45

*Thread Reply:* In those pictures I see a PD335, Q604 , Q535. The others? Who knows? The big green one looks like a pen.

2021-12-17 06:17:33

*Thread Reply:* 1hr left on the 335 auction.

2021-12-17 08:20:59

*Thread Reply:* Dang, not sure what the going rate on those are, but the 335 auction went for $350 - that’s $70 a pencil!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 08:23:47

*Thread Reply:* I've seen people pay over $100 for one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 08:26:22

*Thread Reply:* Andrey sells them for $50 a piece.

2021-12-17 08:39:55

*Thread Reply:* I saw his and maybe I would pay that for one I really needed, but not all of them.

2021-12-17 08:41:25

*Thread Reply:* I got 10 of those for $100. We’ll see what the shipping cost is…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 08:51:15

*Thread Reply:* So crazy that pretty much the same listing just sold for $60 on Mercari

2021-12-17 10:26:59

*Thread Reply:* When was that?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 11:00:44

*Thread Reply:* Couple of days ago

2021-12-17 15:00:09

*Thread Reply:* Phew, I wasn't seeing because I had the little check box checked to show in stock only. Wow quite a bit of Pentel stuff flowing through.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 15:23:25

*Thread Reply:* I've been at this for a couple decades now and things seem to be taking off again in this little world.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:31:20

Just found this in my garage.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:31:30

I don't remember getting this

2021-12-17 18:34:41

Happens as you get older.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:34:55

I'm 19

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:35:06

Kidding 😊

2021-12-17 18:35:10

Starting early for you

2021-12-17 18:37:34

I have to keep logs of everything I do these days.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:38:29

*Thread Reply:* That's what you get for having a parole officer.

2021-12-17 18:50:45

*Thread Reply:* 🤫

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:49:37

I have one of those. It is in the intersection of things I do not collect: Persons and Sharplet.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-17 18:54:19

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I don't know why I have this. I have 4 of these cases. Think I'm going to eBay them.

2021-12-18 06:12:12

@Dry has joined the channel

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 06:14:07

Hey everyone. Happy to introduce you all to @Dry, a fellow Pentel collector from Melbourne.

@Dry welcome to our little secret place on the web.

2021-12-18 06:19:03

Thanks! And thank you for the invite.

2021-12-18 06:20:16

aka Dryopithecini of reddit

2021-12-18 09:12:25

Hi @Dry, welcome!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 12:07:44

Hi @Dry! What do you collect and how do you do it?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 12:10:11

Word of advice @Dry…. When @Knocktype11 asks you if you have calipers say NO!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 12:13:11

Don't ruin them too early!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 12:14:17

Isn't that what we tell you? 😉

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 12:16:22

Shhh. I thought we agreed not to talk about this in front of the kids

2021-12-18 14:14:31

I'll just go ahead and say I don't have calipers and save anyone asking 😀

2021-12-18 14:24:20

My main collection is original quicker-clickers, so pd345/7/9 and related pentels. No rubber grips!!! I'm still hunting a few of the rarest ones including the grey/silver pd515 (not the jetclic) and select pd335 colours (popnpop and non-popnpop). I've also seen pics of a completely transparent QC and a white solid barrel QC both of which I think might have been promo versions because I've never seen them for sale. I'm also chasing a blue pd355 and a pink pd15. Plus any QC juniors would be a welcome addition. I think that sums it up for the main collection.

2021-12-18 14:24:59

Is it recommended to post collection pics in here?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 14:28:27

You can post as many pictures of your collection as you like.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 14:29:40

I am not familiar with QC junior. Do you have a link?

2021-12-18 14:30:13

I've mostly bought off ebay though I am open to trades. I'm open to suggestions as to other methods. My habit started in the mid-80s when a teacher was using a charcoal pd345. I was a kid of limited means back then but never lost the interest. Things picked up again a few years ago and I've been lurking on ebay ever since.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 14:38:32

The all clear one you saw was mine and is a custom piece.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 14:39:37

The QC Junior is PD325. Came in black, red, purple.

2021-12-18 14:51:59

Ah thanks sideKnocks... that's one less I have to chase! So did you combine a few parts or have some custom parts made?

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 14:55:28

Yeah it's a clear Mexican pd345 with the nose and button of a dpd335

2021-12-18 14:56:44

As for the rest of the collection, I have a few arriving tomorrow so I'll add those in and then post a pic of my whole QC family.

2021-12-18 15:11:37

Custom or original, it looks great.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:29:47

Pop'npops from the latest shipment.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:30:45

*Thread Reply:* Those are fun.

What year?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:34:50

*Thread Reply:* I'm thinking that these are from the late 70's to early 80's. The regular Injecto only showed up in the early 80's in the US catalogs in 1980 and 1982 catalogs. By 1984 it was gone and so was 0.4mm lead.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:41:01

*Thread Reply:* The 1982 US catalog has the Injecto (P155) and the Q535 but not in Pop'npop versions. It is interesting to note that the clear blue sections in these pencils differ from the regular pencils.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:44:57

*Thread Reply:* Can I see the front of the pocket clip on the 535?

2021-12-18 19:46:04

*Thread Reply:* There is a lot of these for sale on Yamauchiya: https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1270.html?name=%E3%83%9A%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB

山内屋商店 - 会津
2021-12-18 19:46:28

*Thread Reply:* lot meaning a batch, not a ton

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:46:41

*Thread Reply:* Yeah that's what I thought the clips looked like

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:46:47

*Thread Reply:* So cool

2021-12-18 19:48:03

*Thread Reply:* https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1317.html?name=%E3%83%9A%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB

山内屋商店 - 会津
2021-12-18 19:48:24

*Thread Reply:* Never seen these before:

2021-12-18 19:48:25

*Thread Reply:* https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1021.html?name=%E3%83%9A%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB

山内屋商店 - 会津
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-18 19:54:25

*Thread Reply:* I got them from yamauchiya. Also a Q605.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-19 12:47:42

Does anyone have any extra info on these pencils? I have this one (brown) and another one in blue. I know they are orignally molded in white, then painted, then manually aged to give it a retro used look.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-19 15:41:35

*Thread Reply:* This is part of a set of 4 that was released from Pentel Switzerland in 2016. The other three colors are Black, Red & Blue. Here is my post about these. https://nimrodd.net/2018/06/18/swiss-limited-edition-p205-pencils/

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-19 16:24:52

*Thread Reply:* Thanks Jimmy! I need to get the two other colors.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-19 18:19:55

*Thread Reply:* I still have a Red and a Blue available for sale. Unfortunately, I purchased all of the black pencils they had left, but they are long gone.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-19 18:19:56

*Thread Reply:* https://nimrodd.net/for-sale/

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 13:56:47

Pentel player cards from the 80s. Love me some 4♦️

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 14:05:11

*Thread Reply:* What other pencils are in the deck?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 14:07:20

*Thread Reply:* I knew it the second I hit send.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 14:07:24

*Thread Reply:* What have I done

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 14:07:27

*Thread Reply:* 🙂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 15:22:14

*Thread Reply:* Is this something you own, or something you found in an online search?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 15:25:13

*Thread Reply:* I own

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 15:43:52

*Thread Reply:* I agree with Knocktype11. I would like to see a scan of these descriptions.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 16:16:24

*Thread Reply:* I'll lay them out and post some pics.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 16:23:43

*Thread Reply:* Clearly you should know us by now. Every picture comes with more questions.

😆 Heath
2021-12-20 19:36:50

*Thread Reply:* Those are great!

2021-12-20 19:49:59

*Thread Reply:* QCs should be the ace of spades

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:35:40

Here are all of the card faces.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:46:18

Without doing any work (like actually looking at a catalog) this feels like 1982.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:46:50

Smells like 1982 too.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:48:37

Is anyone else having dufficulty getting their head around why?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:50:45

What werw we doing in 82 that would make this sound like a great idea? There must have been meetings and budgets and approvals happening.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:51:29

I was a baby in 1982. Don't tell me you don't recall what being a baby smells like.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:52:43

It must have been one of those end of the fiscal year things.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:53:22

Don't talk to me about baby smells. I am done with that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:54:18

I have a baby right now. 👶

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:56:50

I remember about that now. All of my babies are arguably adults now. Makes me feel pretty old.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:57:16

I decided to have my first baby at 40 years old. During a pandemic.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:57:19

🕺:skintone2:

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 19:59:37

I could see how that would happen... There is likely some causation or coincidence there.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 20:00:36

I don't try to collect promo items, nor am I a gamer, but this would be a cool piece if you were and the price was a bit less.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Vintage-RARE-Nintendo-Mechanical-Pencil-/124995785968?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Vintage-RARE-Nintendo-Mechanical-Pencil-/124995785968?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

eBay
2021-12-20 20:29:55

Bit expensive... pricing based on rarity

2021-12-20 20:33:20

Had my first child at 38. I'm not sure if it's my age or just parenting generally is exhausting.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:16:00

I would say they are from 1982 as well. Every pencil mentioned in the cards is in the 1982 catalog.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:26:56

I do not own it. It was for sale a couple of years ago on Yahoo Auctions Japan.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:29:49

This is the P1085 I am familiar with

2021-12-20 21:30:30

Sorry that's the P1075..

2021-12-20 21:31:05

You're right Jimmy

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:36:47

I don't think that Jimmy's pencil is a P1075. The P1075s that I have are painted in the grooves, and have wavy grooves, and have P1075 on the smooth area above the grip. I would really like to know about these as well.

2021-12-20 21:38:04

http://mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com/2013/05/pentel-p1075.html

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:38:50

Yes. Upstream on 1Nov I posted some side-by-side pictures.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:41:40

I think the colors in the museum are kind of washed out compared to real life.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-20 21:49:36

Yes, I just found it as well. It is the bottom pencil on the page.

2021-12-20 21:50:01

Yeah that's right.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-23 13:10:16

Here's a couple of my PD359s. I am missing black, yellow, and pink.

👍 Dry
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-23 13:10:33
👍 Dry
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 10:03:09

*Thread Reply:* Do you know when these were released?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 10:12:53

*Thread Reply:* All of the ones I have are dated 1997

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 10:24:26

*Thread Reply:* Now that I think about it, all of the PD355 style pencils that I have (that I was able to date) aren't any older than 1997.

The body of the PD355 style is the same body of the PD345. This may give us some evidence that the introduction of the rubber grip was 98ish since there seems to be no PD355 after 1997.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 10:26:32

*Thread Reply:* If the rubber grip Quicker Clicker came out in 98ish that doesn't mean we weren't still able to get the non-grip one for a couple more years due to inventory already being out there. I seem to remember still buying the non rubber grip ones from Walmart in 1999.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 22:38:06

*Thread Reply:* Do you know what colors the PD359 was available in? I find only one website that has pics, and he has Red, Pink & Yellow.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 22:38:24

*Thread Reply:* I suspect they are available in the same colors as the A169

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 02:12:09

*Thread Reply:* 7 total colors. Black, red, blue, green, orange, fluorescent yellow, and fluorescent pink.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-24 13:15:49

Just got this one in from Jimmy. I just need the black to finish the set. I don't think these are a big hit amongst collectors but they are some of my favorite p205s.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-25 20:42:26

Can anyone confirm that this products photo is indeed from 1975? I'm having my doubts.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:04:34

I found it on the Pentel Switzerland website a few years ago. It has since been removed, but you might try contacting them to ask.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:05:43

I use it as my basis for the change from Gen 2 to Gen 3 on the P200 pencils, and use the date of 1975.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:23:10

Hmm. There's a PD1065 in the photo which as far as we know came out in 1979. The PD345 came out in 1977 and they immediately claimed it as the first side click pencil. If this photo is indeed from 1975 then they already had a side knock prior to the PD345.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:26:41

and a side note.... we also do not fully know which side knock truly came first. The Pentel PD345 or the Mitsubishi Pecker.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:28:42

Pd1065 was from 1975

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:29:14

I wonder why Pentel then claims their PD345 as the first side knock

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-25 21:41:57

Retcon. They still make the pd345. Pentel's record of accurate history is somewhat tenuous.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-27 15:16:02

New post on my blog about the prolific year for Pentel P200 pencil. https://nimrodd.net/2021/12/27/2021-what-a-year-for-the-p200-plus-others/

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-27 15:19:59

Oh my! That's a heck of a score on the Disney pencils. If you're selling any I'm in.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-27 15:20:37

Also, any sources for some of those box sets?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2021-12-27 17:03:54

*Thread Reply:* No, the one source I found cannot get them any more.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-27 17:41:41

*Thread Reply:* No worries. Maybe one day some will show up on eBay.

2021-12-28 07:31:52

Morning folks. What's the deal with the P115? Is $40 too much to pay?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 08:10:42

*Thread Reply:* Not my speciality but I think it came out before the graph 1000 and was the first time pentel used that kind of grip on a metal barrel.

I think the black ones are the collectible ones.

Maybe 🤷‍♂️

2021-12-28 09:17:01

*Thread Reply:* Thanks

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-28 11:03:35

*Thread Reply:* The black ones are much rarer than the silver ones. This is only based on my looking at them. I don't have any real numbers.

2021-12-28 11:45:21

Got my pd335’s and some treats from Yamauchiya today

2021-12-28 11:48:39

Everything looks great except the yellows have a crack near the tip, which I've seen on a few older PD’s. As a few of you have suggested, I'll remove the erasers so nothing expands and cracks those.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 11:51:55

That box 😍

2021-12-28 11:57:07

I was so excited to see that

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 11:57:47

How much did you pay. With shipping

2021-12-28 12:01:09

$100 plus $26 shipping

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:05:33

*Thread Reply:* Nice. How was ordering from there? I've never.

2021-12-28 12:06:53

*Thread Reply:* Fine - just had to ship to my Tenso address which took me the longest to figure out what section was for what, and in what order.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:07:14

*Thread Reply:* What's on the back of the box?

2021-12-28 12:07:28

*Thread Reply:* I knew you were going to ask and was already getting it back out.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:07:56

*Thread Reply:* Hah

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:07:59

*Thread Reply:* 👀

2021-12-28 12:12:50

*Thread Reply:* Need a new phone

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:13:59

*Thread Reply:* I need that box

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:15:48

*Thread Reply:* I need to replicate your order I suppose.

2021-12-28 12:17:25

*Thread Reply:* They have the Q535's too

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:18:03

*Thread Reply:* Those aren't my jam

2021-12-28 12:18:35

*Thread Reply:* https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1345.html?name=%E3%83%9A%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AB

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:18:44

*Thread Reply:* That is a nice box. I got some candy from them and a box also. It almost seems random. I bought their last P1075 and it came loose but the Q605 did. I dont have their algorithm figured out.

2021-12-28 12:19:01

*Thread Reply:* Good thing they have more 335s

2021-12-28 12:19:50

*Thread Reply:* It says box not included but I bet if you order enough they might.

2021-12-28 12:20:44

*Thread Reply:* I’m going to order another green one and maybe a yellow in hopes it won’t be cracked. They have quite a bit in.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:21:21

*Thread Reply:* Ok. I'll have to figure this out. I don't have a tenso address nor can I see how you specify how many of each color you want.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:21:53

*Thread Reply:* Ah. Can I ride on your order?

2021-12-28 12:22:39

*Thread Reply:* sure can

2021-12-28 12:31:05

*Thread Reply:* just let me know what you want and I’ll order in a few - I need to bring my daughter to drivers ed.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 12:47:42

*Thread Reply:* 2 of each

2021-12-28 14:13:38

*Thread Reply:* Those have been ordered.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 14:16:06

*Thread Reply:* awesomeee

2021-12-28 14:16:22

*Thread Reply:* Seems if your order is over 3000 yen, you get the candy.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 14:16:41

*Thread Reply:* I guess hold on to the Revolution until you get those

2021-12-28 14:17:31

*Thread Reply:* Ok

2021-12-28 14:17:53

*Thread Reply:* sounds good

2021-12-28 14:18:30

*Thread Reply:* I asked for the box too.

2021-12-28 14:18:38

*Thread Reply:* We’ll see

2021-12-28 15:36:56

*Thread Reply:* Came to this a bit late... would love to ride on this order if it's not already done (which it sounds like it is)?

2021-12-28 15:39:26

*Thread Reply:* Still hunting for a blue and a yellow

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 15:42:20

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I think his order is done. I can hook you up if so. These will just be duplicates for me plus a hope and a prayer for a box.

I think you also need a clear with blue pd355. I should have one for you if you need.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-28 15:49:01

*Thread Reply:* Im missing several of the transparent pd335s with white pocket clips if either of you have some

2021-12-28 16:04:19

*Thread Reply:* I'd be happy to hook you up if I have any spares. I meant to check that for you but forgot and now I won't be able to until late next week - sorry.

If you're ok with passing on a couple of your pd335 duplicates and a blue pd355 I'd be very interested (and very happy!)

2021-12-29 15:30:30

Don’t know if I’ve seen these blue and red one’s and not sure I knew the transparent smoke one was a JetClick

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:33:54

Yeah the 335s were known as Jet Click or Jet Clic overseas. Especially in Japan. I mention that in one of my posts.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:33:56

https://sideknocks.blogspot.com/2020/06/transparent-green-pentels.html?m=1

sideknocks
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:34:49

I think those colors in the photo above are just a bit over saturated and enhanced

2021-12-29 15:35:21

yeah that green almost looks gray

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:38:41

The PD345 should have won the Good Design award. 😉

Those awards aren't always impressive. Lol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:38:57

Here's another side knock of mine that won the award….

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:39:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/igi09s/acoupleofkokuyosideknocks/?utmsource=share&utmmedium=iosapp&utmname=iossmf|https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/igi09s/acoupleofkokuyosideknocks/?utmsource=share&utmmedium=iosapp&utmname=iossmf

reddit
2021-12-29 15:39:33

oh yeah, I’ve come across those

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 15:40:53

I like um. Cheap and most importantly no rubber grips.

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2021-12-29 20:08:45

@Ron Knapp has joined the channel

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-29 20:09:40

Hey everyone. Let’s welcome Ron, a good pal of mine, to the group!! He’s a fellow Pentel collector who has a pretty darn good collection and also sells a good bit on eBay. Some of you may know him or have unknowingly purchased from him.

Welcome @Ron Knapp! We’re happy to have you. We’re still a small group and this #pentel channel is our most popular. We’re looking to expanding our invites and growing the interest in other channels in 2022.

2021-12-29 20:12:17

Welcome Ron. You've taken your first step into a larger world 😉

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2021-12-29 20:15:48

Welcome @Ron Knapp! Tell us about your pencil journey.

2021-12-30 09:07:21

Welcome @Ron Knapp! You wouldn't be baja_ron on eBay?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2021-12-30 09:21:39

That's him. The dude is pretty busy so he'll be a bit slower to respond.

2021-12-30 09:22:33

Ah yes I bought a few Tradios from him.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2021-12-31 21:05:37

@Kelvin Pang (drifand) has joined the channel

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:37:37

sideKnocs, Knocktype11,Saw this up on Yahoo Japan.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:38:03

Pentel / Pentel DPD355 DISNEY Side knock type mechanical pencil 0.5mm Discontinued dead stock

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:38:54

This is right up my alley and I have a snipe bid on it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:39:01

thanks for looking out @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)

2022-01-03 12:44:00

I just got these in from Andrey:

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:45:51

Yeah those are great and a must have

2022-01-03 12:46:15

Yes, very happy with them and the box.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:56:33

That one is in good shape. Mine are a bit beat up

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:56:40

Is that a red Tradio pencil?

2022-01-03 12:57:02

Just got it from Ron

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:57:25

That is 🔥

2022-01-03 12:58:01

Yeah I was blown away when I opened it - the ebay pic doesn’t do it justice.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:59:00

same internal is the Clic. I love that

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:59:07

I wrote a very lazy blog about it...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 12:59:07

https://sideknocks.blogspot.com/2021/12/pentel-tradio-trp55.html

sideknocks
👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
2022-01-03 13:01:50

I never saw that one - I agree with a lot of what you say about it and also wasn’t initially going to try and collect them, however, as you said, it’s a Clic. I also have to say, I was very pleasantly surprised with how it felt to use. I like it much more after having it in hand.

2022-01-03 13:03:02

I’ll probably get a few more. Ron has a sick cream one up right now that I’ll definitely grab.

2022-01-03 13:11:02

Those 335's from Yamauchiya should be arriving at Tenso soon. They sent it out on the 31st.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 13:14:06

*Thread Reply:* awesomeness

2022-01-03 13:18:54

So regarding manufacturing marks on the PD34x series, I’ve found there are marks on the caps, on the bottle under the clip, and on the underside of the clicker. Has anyone tried putting these all together like @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) has done with the P200 series to try and determine origins or whatnot?

2022-01-03 13:21:38

I just looked at all my caps and have pretty much every letter of the alphabet between them all…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 13:23:39

As far as I know, all the 2 character Date Codes are a single number and a letter A-L. The number represents the last digit of the year, and the letters are the months (A=Jan, L = Dec, etc.)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 13:23:55

Are these a different code structure?

2022-01-03 13:24:06

Also interesting to note - the PD335 caps are ribbed where the 34x’s are smooth.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:13:45

*Thread Reply:* 335 caps are a wee bit bigger to accommodate for the larger plastic pocket clip

2022-01-03 15:58:38

*Thread Reply:* ah

2022-01-03 15:58:49

*Thread Reply:* Good that they’re identifiable

2022-01-03 13:24:21

I have things past L for sure

2022-01-03 13:24:45

Only single digit or letter on the caps

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 13:25:05

If this is different, please let me know. I plan a blog post in the next couple of weeks about Date Codes.

2022-01-03 13:25:55

Looking and will take actual notes this time.

2022-01-03 14:03:09

Here’s what I have so far.

2022-01-03 14:04:25

Getting bottle codes will take longer

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 14:07:39

I have 3 Tradio pencils. 2 of them have a single digit on the cap, under the clip. The other one doesn't have anything.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 14:09:14

All 3 of them say TRP 55 on the silver ring, but my brown one has a label TRP92E.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 14:13:58

Here are all of the metallic series....

2022-01-03 14:20:58

Oh yeah, I forgot to add my Tradio’s too.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 14:31:31

Does anyone have a non-pencil Tradio? I am wondering if you can swap the bodies and caps from one of the pens to the pencils

2022-01-03 14:32:27

Sorry, meaning I wonder that too.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 14:33:32

Seems like some of the caps for the mechanical pencils have "Porte Mines" under the Tradio name and some say TRP Pentel

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 14:34:13

Which would show which were for the Euro market

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:31:42

The insides can be swapped with some of the Tradio pens. The "click" of the cap to the main body sometimes isn't quite as tight though.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:32:25

Ohhh that one was a Japan exclusive, right?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:40:13

My wife has a Green metal fountain pen, a Black plastic fountain pen and a Red pencil I gave her.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:40:33

All are interchangeable, but the Green cap is a little loose on all of them.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:40:53

Got it. Thanks

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:41:28

@Heath I think the marks I see on the Tradio

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:41:47

on the Tradio's I have here are probably Mold Marks

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:41:54

not Date Codes

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:41:59

Wait! TRP91? I have not seen that before. Is it Korea only?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:43:21

Look at what I've done. I should have never pointed out the red tradio in @Heaths photo. 😉

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:44:13

The TRP91 has standard color codes also. But, it seems not Black model.

2022-01-03 15:47:01

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) You see the one under the lower half too?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:49:36

Under what lower half?

2022-01-03 15:49:54

to fill the lead

2022-01-03 15:50:06

there’s a code on that bit

2022-01-03 15:50:31

Two - just found another

2022-01-03 15:50:59

one at the tip where you fill and then one along the length

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:52:23

Yes, I see that, and it looks like a standard Date Code. The ones I have are 4A, 4A and 3E, which would more than likely be January 2004 (x2) and May 2003.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:54:50

I didn't see the "2" on mine, but went back in and checked. These are again, probably Mold Marks. Mine are 2, 5 & 6.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 15:56:26

I just gotta say it again. So glad you have you all here for these kind of real time conversations. 🎉 🤓

👍 Heath, sideKnocks (atxalais)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-03 16:02:15

@Ron Knapp What is the source of the Tradio catalog image above?

👍 Heath
2022-01-03 16:03:51

So the 3G on one of my blue transparent PD345's could be either July 1983 or 1993?

2022-01-03 17:31:02

*Thread Reply:* But the 27 mold mark would maybe make me think on the later side… need to check a few more to compare.

2022-01-03 16:11:31

This is one of my black 345’s. The 6C is clear but not really sure what the other marking is.

2022-01-03 16:12:34

Kinda looks like a big 5?

2022-01-03 16:18:02

Here's the black one with Pentel Clic on the side:

2022-01-03 16:18:56

Think it’s the first lowercase letter I’ve seen - 8b

2022-01-03 16:19:06

and also a big 5, but sloppy

2022-01-03 16:35:29

Another interesting note, when comparing the loading hole size, the one’s I have with Clic on them, the holes are much smaller than what I’ve seen. Not sure if I captured it here

2022-01-03 16:35:45

The blue is easy to see

2022-01-03 16:36:05

And so is the smaller black one

2022-01-03 16:37:22

So at some point they widened the opening… wonder if it was when the transparent versions hit?

2022-01-03 16:43:11

So these Clic versions are likely from Feb 78 (8b) and the non Clic one is Mar 86 (6C)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 16:44:47

I think you're correct

2022-01-03 16:48:07

That's awesome

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 16:49:59

Wonder if any of us has a 1977

2022-01-03 16:54:44

I have a feeling we're going to find out soon. 😆

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 17:00:08

@Heath Your 8b looks like an 8L to me, which would be December 78

2022-01-03 17:33:38

*Thread Reply:* Although, 8b would be February, not Jan

2022-01-03 17:03:19

This is an interesting development

2022-01-03 17:07:36

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) I think those are b’s - the blue one is the same and a bit easier to see

2022-01-03 17:08:05

This is what I'm doing to spread the clip enough to slide off easily

2022-01-03 17:09:00

Got any lego brick separators? Looks like they'd do the trick too.

👍 Heath
2022-01-03 17:14:52

I’ll check, but think they might be too thick. These are from previous iphone repair kits

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 17:15:21

That’s what that thing is. I knew it looked familiar but I couldn’t place it

2022-01-03 17:59:53

Ok two transparent blues. One I am fairly certain I bought in the 90’s (right, odd date code, just a 6) and an eBay item (left, date code 5A). So I think they widened the opening sometime in the 90’s and looks to be a great way to indicate 80’s or 90’s.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:11:39

Ok I checked several of my PD family pencils. Here's what I found in regards to the small-hole/big-hole discussion: • All PD335s have small holes • All of my PD345 with green erasers with the cleaning needle have small holes (note that erasers could easily get swapped out but I believe all of mine are untouched originals.) ◦ All of my PD345 with white erasers and no cleaning need have big holes • All of my solid PD347 and PD349 with green erasers with the cleaning needle have small holes ◦ All of my solid PD347 and PD349 with white erasers and no cleaning needle have big holes • All of my transparent PD347 and PD349 have white erasers and big hole. The transparent .07 and .09 came out in 1994 • All of my PD355 have big holes • All of my Clear Clic PD345 have big holes Without taking off the pocket clip to see the year stampings (I'll let @Heath do that) it appears that the small hole barrels were from 1977 - 1993. Heath's work may help us verify when they switched to the white erasers. I had always assumed 1993.

2022-01-04 16:32:53

*Thread Reply:* Couple questions: • Your DPD355's - wide hole or small? If those are 80's vintage, they should be small. • When did the PD345T first come out? • When did they stop selling the PD345/7/9 Solids? • Is there a timeline already somewhere?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 16:47:19

*Thread Reply:* • wide • I’ll have to look back at my timeline doc • They didn't stop making all solids. Just certain colors. I'll need to look at my timeline. • Not an official one. I created one many a moons ago that I'll try to dig up. It's probably all wrong. 😂

2022-01-04 16:48:49

*Thread Reply:* Also, given this is out of the 80's catalog, it seems like the transparent version wasn’t out yet or it would’ve been mentioned maybe?

2022-01-04 16:49:58

*Thread Reply:* And I never noticed them being blue… maybe a saturation thing

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 16:50:04

*Thread Reply:* I can't remember off the top of my head but maybe 82 was the introduction of the transparent

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 16:50:15

*Thread Reply:* It's a saturation thing.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 16:50:28

*Thread Reply:* Dems is green

👍 Heath
2022-01-04 16:50:48

*Thread Reply:* That would be cool tho

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 16:51:43

*Thread Reply:* We better stop talking about erasers. @Knocktype11 will make us measure them and run a pH test.

😂 Heath
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:00:53

*Thread Reply:* I hated those green erasers. At best they were smudgy at worst they left stains where you were trying to erase. A pH test would be interesting but totally not required. Spectrographic would be better. Do you have a spectroscope?

😂 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:02:11

*Thread Reply:* Let me check

2022-01-04 17:02:34

*Thread Reply:* Regarding the Disney 355's - being wide hole and what we’ve found, does that mean these are not from the 80's or do you have some sort of documentation showing when those were released? Are these an anomaly, or does it mean that the switch from Green to White didn’t necessarily correspond with the small/wide change?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:04:28

*Thread Reply:* I don't think pd355s were from the 80s

2022-01-04 17:04:41

*Thread Reply:* The Disney one’s?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:05:28

*Thread Reply:* Oh snap. Man I dunno now.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:05:34

*Thread Reply:* I don't have my notes on me

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:05:44

*Thread Reply:* Notes that are probably wrong

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:07:10

*Thread Reply:* Don't the Disney pencils have a copyright date on them? That would give a no-earlier-than date.

2022-01-04 17:08:06

*Thread Reply:* Hmm

2022-01-04 17:08:38

*Thread Reply:* Does anyone have any pictures of them from a catalog or whatever event they were done for?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:08:56

*Thread Reply:* Never seen a catalog with the Disney pencils

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:09:26

*Thread Reply:* There's one older black and white Japan catalog page that had a Disney pencil but it was a model I could never figure out which it was.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:13:01

*Thread Reply:* I'm getting all mixed up with my understanding of the timeline. I'll dig into my notes when I get to my studio tonite

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:15:27

*Thread Reply:* I think the one you were thinking of is a 1970 or earlier one which looks like a S19.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:16:41

*Thread Reply:* I'll bet that it does not have a copyright on it since I suspect that it was not officially licensed. No proof on that though.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:18:04

*Thread Reply:* https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/gwutnk/80spenteldpd355/?utmsource=share&utmmedium=iosapp&utmname=iossmf|https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/gwutnk/80spenteldpd355/?utmsource=share&utmmedium=iosapp&utmname=iossmf

reddit
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:18:16

*Thread Reply:* Here's my post on one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 17:26:08

*Thread Reply:* @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) When did pentel stop putting green erasers in the p200s?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:19:47

*Thread Reply:* Pentel of America catalogs had the Green eraser refills in the 1990-91 catalog, but in 1994, they were white.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:21:47

*Thread Reply:* I was told by a seller that the new versions of the P210 series (Gen 6 vs Gen 5) came out in the early 90's, so I have based my changes of the Gen 5/Gen 6 change to be between these catalogs, so probably 92-94, in that range. I don't have anything else definitive.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:29:25

*Thread Reply:* My notes has noted that in 1993 the erasers in the Quicker Clickers changed to white. That is also the year they removed the clearing needle. I don't have any sources noted as to how I came to that date.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:35:27

*Thread Reply:* I take it back. I have something more definitive.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:36:17

*Thread Reply:* At the time I got the P210 pencils, I did not know about the Date Codes. Now I do.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:39:06

*Thread Reply:* The early P210 pencils (originally based on all of them having Green erasers, were assigned to Gen 5, and the later ones being Gen 6, with White erasers (again 100%).

🎉 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:43:51

*Thread Reply:* The Date codes on the ones in my Collection for the Gen 5 are 2D, 2E & 2E. The Gen 6 pencils are 4G, 4G & 0J. So the change was probably in 1994, with the being produced for a longer period than I believed (up to 2000). Found another Gen 6 in my extras that is a 6I.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:51:45

*Thread Reply:* So a date code like 2D you can place in a certain decade by other identifying aspects that tell you what generation it is?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:52:20

*Thread Reply:* On the PD340 series that we're trying figure out dates on a 4 can be 84 or 94.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:55:20

*Thread Reply:* Yes, unfortunately, you need to know roughly when it was made to identify when it was made.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:56:45

*Thread Reply:* The Gen 6 P200 is the current generation, so if I see a generic Black P205A with a 6E code, that could be May of 1996, 2006 or 2016. Since I have my database, I can at least do it as a Before my Purchase Date to narrow it down sometimes.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 19:59:21

*Thread Reply:* And we are coming up on 30 years of Gen 6 in the next couple of years. Once I get my database updated to include all marks for the pencils, I should be able to start narrowing some of these down, although not by much, since I didn't start to really collect these until 2010.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 20:02:01

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) Your note "My notes has noted that in 1993 the erasers in the Quicker Clickers changed to white." is probably correct based on the catalogs and the Date Codes I have on the P210s.

2022-01-04 20:06:07

*Thread Reply:* This wide/small hole identifier is going to be really nice to have.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 20:12:14

*Thread Reply:* Yeah dude that's a great discovery you found.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 20:14:14

*Thread Reply:* You've stolen @Knocktype11’s title of “Most Likely to Take a Pencil Apart and Measure It” from him. Congrats.

🤪 Heath, Knocktype11
2022-01-04 20:14:28

*Thread Reply:* And it can’t be moved.

2022-01-04 20:15:22

*Thread Reply:* I haven’t done anything to the 335's yet - the clip didn’t seem like it wanted to come off.

2022-01-04 20:16:04

*Thread Reply:* But I know you’ve put a metal clip on one, so was it hard to get off?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 20:16:14

*Thread Reply:* Have you updated your spreadsheet with all of your 340s?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 20:16:41

*Thread Reply:* I put a metal clip on a 355 not 335

2022-01-04 20:16:46

*Thread Reply:* Ah

2022-01-04 20:17:10

*Thread Reply:* I’ve got about 10 done

2022-01-04 20:17:16

*Thread Reply:* haven’t had time

2022-01-04 20:19:01

*Thread Reply:* Looking at hole size though, most of them are wide. My good blues are all narrow.

2022-01-04 20:19:28

*Thread Reply:* The one broken blue is the one I bought in college

2022-01-04 20:19:44

*Thread Reply:* and it is wide

2022-01-04 21:14:07

*Thread Reply:* Here is what I have so far. Feel free to fill in or fix any details in the timeline tab.

2022-01-03 19:22:09

And when did they start making the rubber grips?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:28:42

*Thread Reply:* 2006

2022-01-03 19:29:39

*Thread Reply:* 👍

2022-01-03 19:25:31

The blue one in my pics from the 90’s would've been bought during college which was after 93.

2022-01-03 19:26:35

I don't mean that it was a rubber one, just confirming that the date code of just a 6 is probably 1996.

2022-01-03 19:49:03

Ok, my fourth transparent blue has a narrow/small hole, and a date code of 0b and a mold mark of 5. 1980 or 1990?

2022-01-03 20:12:28

*Thread Reply:* Here’s a video of the 0b date code, which almost looks like an “Oh” instead of a zero, and two separate mold marks of 5

2022-01-03 20:30:30

*Thread Reply:* Wait, when did the transparent PD345's begin? I first see them in the 82 catalog.

2022-01-03 19:50:53

Has a clearing pin, but as you say, easily swapped

2022-01-03 19:51:58

But don’t think so - the clicker on this one is pristine

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:53:10

@Heath do you have calipers? Can you measure the diameter of the holes?

2022-01-03 19:53:42

Unfortunately I don’t have any - but have been looking for an excuse to pick up a set!

2022-01-03 19:54:05

I will once I do

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:54:39

The side knock piece has a number on it as well

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:54:40

Now is an excellent time to do so. @sideKnocks (atxalais) didn't warn you about my questions.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:54:55

I only brought @Heath here so you'd leave me alone

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:54:57

😉

2022-01-03 19:55:44

You've been very well-behaved recently @Knocktype11

2022-01-03 19:56:19

I’m going to check the clickers soon

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:58:37

Well, I have actually been trying to work today. You all are making it difficult... I take it everyone is not in the Pacific time zone?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:58:47

Central

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 19:59:11

🦘

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 20:00:07

Central

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-03 20:01:05

Looks like you have some rain coming

2022-01-03 20:02:06

AEST is time zone. It's threatening but ok for now.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:02:43

Ron just posted this and I want it...

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:23:58

*Thread Reply:* That is a beautiful box! It appears that I have bought at least one pencil from Ron. Thanks @Ron Knapp!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:25:23

*Thread Reply:* I bet it was a Snoopy pen

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:36:48

*Thread Reply:* It could be. I don't collect Peanuts either.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:02:43

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154776501478?hash=item240965fce6:g:SYMAAOSwUaJh0KQl

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:03:15

Anyone wanna buy a 50th Kerry?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:19:56

I wonder how many he has available?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 14:20:30

He also has the Graphite Series box

2022-01-04 14:20:45

I saw that one

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-04 15:14:46

They both are nice.

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 09:07:48

@Heath Did you get the MILD Seven Select cigarette company pencil?

2022-01-05 09:08:39

Not yet - I’ve been building up a shipment. 🙂

2022-01-05 09:09:05

Just waiting on a few things to come in

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 17:49:01

Anyone know what exact model this is?

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:10:20

Rush on Goal.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:10:25

It is a Rush On Goal

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:11:21

Not sure of the exact model, but suspect it is a P585.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:11:41

Thanks guys

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:12:54

It seems to be the same time frame as the Crew (P575), and the Pop’npop (P595).

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:14:52

So early 90s?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:15:03

Or late 80s?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:16:45

70s to 80s

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:17:00

Oh look at what the cat dragged in

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:17:02

😉

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:18:39

Any story behind the Rush on Goal line?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:41:29

There are at least 10 different designs on the Rush On Goal.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-05 18:59:54

Here is one that has a date code on it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-05 19:46:13

*Thread Reply:* That picture is pretty terrible when I don't look at it on my phone.

😳 Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-05 19:08:28

What does Rush on Goal mean?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-05 19:13:42

It seems like a soccer thimg to me. It migjt just be a nice arrangment of romanjii characters.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-01-06 08:22:38

Yamauchiya has 4 different kinds available: https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1466.html

山内屋商店 - 会津
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 08:22:58

Yeah I saw that. I still haven't figured out how to order from there.

2022-01-06 08:23:22

Make sure you don’t have any blocking going on

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 08:25:25

Yea I can get to the site just never attempted to order in the past. Not sure how to ship. Guess it's time to figure out.

2022-01-06 08:25:44

You should get a Tenso account

2022-01-06 08:25:53

You get a local address to ship to

2022-01-06 08:26:03

and they turn it around just like Buyee

2022-01-06 08:51:18

Not sure if helpful, but here is my Tenso address, first in Japanese, second in English, and third how I entered in Yamauchiya

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 08:54:43

Thank you. That will probably help

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 10:34:47

You can also order from them through ZenMarket

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 10:35:06

shit, you can?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 10:35:14

thank you. You're a dream boat

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 11:01:12

Go to "Other Shops". It will take a little while for Zen to figure out how much including shipping and charges. (Zen charges 200 per different item, including color) .

2022-01-06 11:19:34

Tenso charges per package and it’s just the shipping and handling. Plus you have an address to use with other obscure shops that don’t do Buyee/Zen.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 11:21:38

cool. I'm waiting for approval for Tenso

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 11:21:43

you guys are awesome and helpful

2022-01-06 11:23:58

Separately, what about an actual account on Yahoo! JP? It seems that they want a phone number to register.

2022-01-06 11:25:01

I wanted to create one because there are sometimes blocks on Buyee/Zen

2022-01-06 11:25:13

For certain auctions

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 14:55:42

I've had Zen block some auctions. But mostly they will unblock on request if the seller is not a likely scam or problem for them to deal with.

2022-01-06 14:56:06

Yep, they just did for me.

2022-01-06 18:43:42

@sideKnocks (atxalais) there's a white clip transparent purple pd335 on yahoo japan auctions

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:44:16

Is it with a group of other pencils?

2022-01-06 18:44:20

It's real dirty in a group

2022-01-06 18:44:33

Yeah that's the one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:44:53

Yeah I have a snipe on it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:45:05

I won't go too high on that bid

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:45:19

I have a few purple 335ts and they all are dirty

2022-01-06 18:45:37

Seemed a bit too beat

2022-01-06 18:45:52

But it was the first I've seen in a while

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:47:57

I need those transparents

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:48:01

🤤

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:49:56

What years were the yellow geeen and orange from? They have a real early 70s pallet.

2022-01-06 18:50:22

I was just about to say - those aren't white are they?

2022-01-06 18:50:23

I'm sure we can sort out a trade

2022-01-06 18:50:49

2 of the white clips are just badly aged

2022-01-06 18:51:09

Not sure what years...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:51:11

@Knocktype11 is badly aged and I keep him around

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:51:47

Geting whiter on top not yellower...

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais), Dry
2022-01-06 18:52:34

Not a true pentel fan then eh?

2022-01-06 18:53:52

Must've been a smoker

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:54:11

Yeah I can smell it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:54:32

I got in some pd1065s once that smelled like an ashtray. Such a bummer.

2022-01-06 18:55:21

Ok I'm now sniffing pencils

2022-01-06 18:55:45

These just smell like plastic. No cigarette odour

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:56:42

Do you say colour, too?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:57:29

Metric spelling.

2022-01-06 18:58:16

**correct English 😉

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:58:21

Here we go

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 18:58:59

I got no ammo. We have a few blemishes here in the states over the past few years.

2022-01-06 18:59:52

Funny I'm actually Texan by birth

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:00:01

Sorry to hear that

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:00:09

Kidding

2022-01-06 19:00:12

Tasmanian parents

2022-01-06 19:00:26

I have a red neck and 2 heads

👀 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-01-06 19:01:57

It's an Aussie joke... Tasmania being a small island is obviously inbred... and well... I think you understand the rest of the joke.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:02:13

Hah. Yes

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:04:12

I'm going to create an <#C02TE9NGA3B|off-topic> channel for non Porte-mines chatting.

👍 Heath
2022-01-06 19:04:26

So codes... the yellow solid has I8 inside the cap, the orange has 6 and the green has 20. They all have minor splitting.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:04:29

Nothing wrong with the chatting now but as we grow membership we'll need it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:04:53

Man those numbers are hard to see in the caps

2022-01-06 19:06:33

Pink barrel white clip cap code is 22

2022-01-06 19:07:49

Yellow barrel white clip is I4

2022-01-06 19:08:21

Green barrel is 7

2022-01-06 19:09:19

All 3 have cracks to varying degrees

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:14:23

Do any of your solid colour pd335s have cracking? None of mine do but I have a few transparent 335s that do.

2022-01-06 19:15:26

The ones photographed above are spares. Sadly all bar the popnpop have cracks.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:16:08

Painful

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:16:13

Do they crack only on the top clip part or do you see cracking near the tip also?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:16:28

Just the pocket clip from eraser expanding over time

2022-01-06 19:16:45

Yeah just the pocket clip

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:16:50

They should take back the Good Design Award they received for the 335. 😆

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:17:17

The Good Design award usually means discontinued in a couple of years.

2022-01-06 19:17:18

Do you think they anticipated our obsession?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:21:07

So before everyone goes to bed/lunch/dinner I have a new topic: Pentel has used various stickers over the years. Does anyone have approximate years that each was used? I'm thinking that @Ƶ would be totally on this but they have been scarce around her for a while.

2022-01-06 19:23:15

Sorry just checked by solid primary series... no cracks on 4/4.

2022-01-06 19:25:38

Transparent coloured barrels white clips 5/5 have cracks

2022-01-06 19:28:16

*Thread Reply:* Transparent barrel with coloured clips no cracks 5/5

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:25:38

I have notes somewhere as to what I determined the dates to be on these

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:26:09

Before I had my collector friends I didn't keep good track of my notes.

2022-01-06 19:27:44

Oh that would be some good info

2022-01-06 19:28:12

How wide are those openings?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:28:35

*Thread Reply:* Yes

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:31:51

I have pencils with the triangle and JIS markings from the late 70s. I don't think that they had the JIS markings in the early 70s. The rectangle stickers with the price in a a black bar are from the 80's I think. The Technoclic was mid 80s and I only remember seeing the rectangle stickers on them. There are more sticker sizes and configurations that I haven't a clue about.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:32:32

Jimmy's post has some info. I haven't read it in a while.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:38:35

I see. There is still some work to do on this but he has it mostly covered with some cross referencing with the generations.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:39:45

Thanks for the reminder that @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) has done all of the real work before I even thought to ask the question! 😆

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:39:58

Ha yep. That's why we pay him to be here.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:40:03

👀

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:40:40

That's why he gets the big bucks.

2022-01-06 19:42:48

Payment? For being here? @sideKnocks (atxalais) we need to talk...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:43:07

Yeah about that. You're going to have to start paying.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:43:27

Kidding. No one gets paid here. 😂

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:55:45

I'm sure you all have come across these things from Pentel: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j1030253182

I gather that they are supposed to absorb static electricity. Do they work? Is this a particular issue in Japan? (I have been zapped by water coming out of my faucet recently so I am not judging anyone on this).

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:56:13

I am tired of scrolling past those things

2022-01-06 19:58:22

That's a first for me

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:58:52

I just figured that they were something I would not understand like the little things that hold up pencils which seem to just have started to show up.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 19:59:48

If we can have those and the ERGoNoMiXs removed from the search results I'll have happier scrolling.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 20:01:31

I really want one of the winged ergonomix pencils, but not at the price they are asking. The fat gripped gooey ones are not for me.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 20:01:53

Buy em all so I can stop looking at them 😉

🤪 Knocktype11
2022-01-06 20:02:51

What's your search string? Or is that top-secret?

2022-01-06 20:03:48

I will try to keep it as simple as possible and try to sort by new.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-06 20:03:54

ぺんてる

👍 Heath
2022-01-06 20:06:00

And then I feel you have to look at seller’s other items because they just aren't consistent in the listings.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-06 20:10:52

I'm searching for both Pentel and ぺんてる Every listing is a rat hole @Heath. If you look directly on yahoo.jp the suggested items also provide hours of entertainment.

If you want real low signal to noise search for Colleen pencils. I have a couple of searches which turn up different results but almost all bad. I wan't boolean operators for my search or sql.

👍 Heath, sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 14:43:11

@Pearsonified has joined the channel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:01:33

ok, which one of you degenerates bought the P1075 in blue off Mercari last week?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:01:55

I bought a red one in November—the only one I've ever seen for sale—and I was a dumbass not to scoop up the blue one the second I saw it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:02:02

trying to "cut back," RIP

2022-01-07 15:02:40

lol, I’m hot on Mercari, but lately for the Staedtlers

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:08:40

I picked up the blue P1075 last week. That is the first P1075 I have purchased. I am waiting on 2 yahoo bids before closing out my shipment.

2022-01-07 15:09:57

Hey, @sideKnocks (atxalais) did you end up winning that Disney this morning?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:10:59

*Thread Reply:* 1 day left

2022-01-07 15:13:42

*Thread Reply:* hmmm, I wonder what I’m thinking of

2022-01-07 15:16:20

*Thread Reply:* ah, it was the dirty purple

2022-01-07 15:16:23

*Thread Reply:* group

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:17:45

*Thread Reply:* Oh that one. Yea I didn't get it. I didn't want to up my bid on that mess

2022-01-07 15:49:21

*Thread Reply:* So are you guys talking about the dpd355?

2022-01-07 15:49:48

*Thread Reply:* @Heath and @sideKnocks (atxalais)

2022-01-07 15:50:10

*Thread Reply:* yes

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:50:28

*Thread Reply:* Yup

2022-01-07 15:50:42

*Thread Reply:* I see. Is there an etiquette here gents?

2022-01-07 15:51:57

*Thread Reply:* Because that's a nice looking specimen 😉

2022-01-07 15:52:17

*Thread Reply:* haha, this is between you two

2022-01-07 15:52:43

*Thread Reply:* I’m not starting down that Disney line

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:53:09

*Thread Reply:* I already have this one but wouldn't mind another. If I win I can let you have it.

2022-01-07 15:53:31

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) you might be able to convince me to get out of Disney altogether if we can cooperate on other side knocks???

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:53:38

*Thread Reply:* Ohhhh

2022-01-07 15:55:18

*Thread Reply:* Not sure... if you've already got that one...

2022-01-07 15:56:57

*Thread Reply:* Save yourself bidding?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:57:12

*Thread Reply:* What do you mean?

2022-01-07 15:59:27

*Thread Reply:* I'm undecided on expanding on my Disneys or trading out of them.

2022-01-07 16:00:25

*Thread Reply:* If I trade out I'd offer them to you first. If I don't trade out, I'd be interested in bidding on the dpd355

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:14:57

*Thread Reply:* You have a complete set of the dpd357?

2022-01-07 16:25:23

*Thread Reply:* 359

2022-01-07 16:25:53

*Thread Reply:* I don't have any dpd357 or dpd355

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:57:22

*Thread Reply:* Ah yes 359 is what I mean.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:57:33

*Thread Reply:* I think I saw a photo of your set

2022-01-07 17:33:32

*Thread Reply:* Yeah bottom left of the pic I posted in collections

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 17:42:09

*Thread Reply:* Do you know if they also have other characters? I know there's Mickey, Minnie, and Goofy in the DPD355

2022-01-07 17:47:36

*Thread Reply:* I haven't seen any but I'll keep an eye out.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:12:43

Dammit Jimmy

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:12:50

I knew it was one of my guys

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:12:52

lololollol

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:13:06

amazing price at 1999¥

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:14:00

I only learned of the P1075, since I have been on here.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:15:18

Pretty cool. I was browsing Shoei Bungu (some Japanese site), and I noticed the P1075 and ML-51 for the first time

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:15:24

Within a week, both appeared on YAJ/Mercari

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:15:36

I paid through the nose for my red P1075, but it's in excellent condition

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:16:16

I'm familiar with that site, but have found a couple of errors on it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:17:31

I am trying to get samples of all the models. Not necessarily all the colors…

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:17:46

Same. Getting all the colors is an exercise in insanity

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:18:01

I want anything I can get my hands on at a reasonable price, but some of these things are not likely to ever be seen again

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:18:21

But until I win the lottery, there are some that will never see my collection.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:18:24

I've found this site to be one fo the best repositories of vintage pencil images

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:18:36

Terrible to browse, but there are gems upon gems in there

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:18:47

oh lord, some of the hi mecha stuff is just insane now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:18:59

someone posted a "young Pilot double knock" recently...with a starting bid of over $328

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:19:32

Uni Carbos, Pilot H-3XXX and up, Pentel QX05, etc—insane prices now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:20:02

Jimmy, been meaning to ask you about this for months—do you have any Pentel double knocks outside the PSD5?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:20:15

A Pentel 5 double knock with hairline finish went for $130 on Mercari last summer

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:20:32

At the time, that price gave me pause. Wish I'd have gotten it, though, as it appears to be rarer than hen's teeth

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:22:46

I searched eBay yesterday, just looking at Pentels and found, I believe, four PSD5 pencils starting at about $350 going up to $750+

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:23:29

I don't have a PSD5

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:25:22

I did see that there is a Singapore seller on eBay that has about 4-5 Rolly pencils for sale. P125, PC125 and I believe a PC205

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:27:41

I noticed that. Somehow, I scored 4 ROLLY models in May, but I have hardly seen any others for sale ALL YEAR

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:28:05

There's a black/silver PC125 for 2599¥, but this is the least exciting ROLLY

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:28:34

Also, i find the base models to be difficult to grip. But the nicer ROLLY models are some of the best pencils ever

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:30:06

Right now I am concentrating my overseas searches on 70’s model Pentels.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:34:01

There are 5 old Pentel 5s with great colors on YAJ right now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:35:20

The second set are the short axis

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:35:28

In 2 auctions. Those are the auctions I have bids on.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:35:43

First set are regular axis (I think)—tough to tell the difference between medium and full axis if you can't compare visually

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:35:55

I have those 3 little guys

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:36:05

and I guess I won't outbid you on the orange and green 😁

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:36:17

(though those are PERFECT specimens with nice price stickers)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:36:24

my only beef is hte stickers cover the cool Pentel 5 etching on those models

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:36:47

Sorry for spilling the beans, I'll kill my post

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:40:29

*Thread Reply:* We kind of do that on here to keep from jumping the bids.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:41:01

*Thread Reply:* We had already posted about these when they appeared the other day.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:37:31

Yes, but I do like that the black is pre-sticker with the label.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:37:49

I thought I had that turquoise, but I don't

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:38:08

I have an orange specimen in full axis

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:38:32

Yeah, those clip tags are 🔥

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:39:05

I picked up a box of P325 pencils with the tags.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:39:25

First generation pencils

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:57:21

Nice pencils at good prices. Those PEntel CREWs were easier to get last year; I haven't seen a full set for sale in months

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:57:25

(There are 4 of them)

2022-01-07 15:57:42

The price did seem right

2022-01-07 15:58:03

not that I’m buying

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:59:29

The excalibur-style pencil model number is escaping me

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:59:39

There was a full set posted a few weeks ago. It is now sitting at the warehouse in Japan waiting for me to close my order.

👍 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:59:45

but those pencils are fantastic and feel extremely nice in the hand

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 15:59:54

ah cool! Glad you bought that one

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:00:00

I'm bummed i Missed out on the PEntel Rush On Goals

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:00:05

but tbh the lady selling them was a bitch

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:00:15

she sat on a stupid high price for nearly a year without selling them

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:00:18

wouldn't even give me $10 off

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:00:23

I just bought some

2022-01-07 16:01:08

From Yamauchiya?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:01:10

Which RoGs? The standard four that everybody has?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:01:16

Yea

2022-01-07 16:01:46

https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1466.html?name=pentel

山内屋商店 - 会津
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:01:49

sideKnocks, did you get the RoGs?

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-01-07 16:01:54

There’s still some left

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:03:21

I don't think you can actually buy from them, Heath

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:03:36

Could be wrong, but every time I've hit up an independent shop with inventory like this, it was sold like 12 years ago lololol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:03:39

You can with zenmarket

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:04:04

I know of at least 10 different colors/designs of the Rush on Goal.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:04:08

Might have to try that. Ive only used Buyee because Mercari is the jam

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:04:16

oh wow, Jimmy—I've only ever seen the 4 pictured above

2022-01-07 16:04:19

read a few posts back

2022-01-07 16:04:45

I have a tenso address and have used that twice with Yamauchiya

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:04:48

Crazy. I'd lvoe to get those, but no way I'm paying $20 per pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:04:59

Would happily pay $8 tho 😂

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:05:24

I kid—I think a set of 4 for $60 + $5 fee is reasonable

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:05:34

But that implies $0 for shipping or nonsense

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:05:40

that lady on ebay was like $70 + $10 + tax

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:05:50

That lady was my mom. Back off

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:05:55

😉

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:05:58

and Buyee will bang you for $5 on each purchase, so they have to be a 4-pack, or else you're overpaying by $15

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:06:04

hahahahahah

2022-01-07 16:06:31

yeah, but I guess you do what you need for the fix

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:06:55

my biggest regret of 2021 was a full set of Pilot H-109X on Mercari for $212

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:07:05

I "slept on it", and they were gone in the morning

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:07:08

big sad 😞

2022-01-07 16:07:33

ah yeah, I certainly have those days

2022-01-07 16:07:48

shoulda coulda woulda

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:09:48

Here are all the different images of the Rush On Goals that I know of.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:10:22

I have 6 of these with a 7th coming

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:10:48

An 8th one sold to I believe @Knocktype11

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:14:01

The 4 I hadn't seen before are really cool! Now I want these

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:14:12

Not sure how to classify the CREW and the Rush on Goal in my collection

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:14:23

like, the P555 bled into the P1085

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:15:10

and the P555 draws from the basic designs of the PEntel 5 and later the PS513 and PS535

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:15:20

but the CREWs and RoGs don't really have any precursors

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:15:28

they don't share tip styles with any other PEntels

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:15:44

According to this website https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%BA%E3%82%93%E3%81%A6%E3%82%8B

} Wikipedia (https://ja.wikipedia.org/)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:15:47

the Crews have the same end cap flange as the PS35, PS45, and PS65

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:15:58

The Crew is a P575.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:17:33

There is also a Pop'npop that is a P595, and actually marked that.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:17:39

That's kind of how I categorized it—as an "updated" P555

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:17:53

but to me, the tip on the 555 is far more intricate and cool than the cheap-seeming tips on the CREWs or RoGs

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:18:21

Ah wow, that Pop'npop seems like a bigtime interruption

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:18:57

pop'npops are all over the map—cheapie injecto 0.4, cheapie plastics, cool executive crossovers like this purple one, etc

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-07 16:33:43

The body design is the same as the RoG

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 09:10:29

Ooof, the auctions I was watching on YAJ all ended quite poorly this morning—very high prices!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 09:11:01

I bid on the 5-pencil lot with two Rotring metallic double knocks, but it ended up going for over $200—insanity

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 09:11:14

I'd sooner pay that German firm $29 to ship a single pencil off eBay than pay $200+ for these

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 09:14:33

There was also a green Rotring 500 0.35 in that lot, and I've seen those go for ~$100 on YAJ, so maybe that helps explain the high price

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-09 09:27:02

I got the Disney DPD355. I'm fancy.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-09 09:30:34

@Dry You and I can coordinate with pieces like this. I'm glad I was able to get it for a good price and keep it amongst the 4 QC family collectors (me, you, Heath, Ron).

2022-01-09 20:42:53

*Thread Reply:* Cool cool. I forgot about it tbh. Had 3 weeks worth of yard work to catch up on and there was the cricket to watch. I'm glad one of us got it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-09 21:03:21

*Thread Reply:* Hard to watch crickets around here. They just make a bunch of noise.

🦗 sideKnocks (atxalais), Dry
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-09 13:09:55

I lost out on my last 2 auctions this morning. About to pack up all my purchases to bring them home.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 15:45:55

Those Pentel 5s went for at least 1000¥ over what I would consider reasonable

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 15:46:04

The orange and turquoise

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-09 18:08:05

On both auctions, I bid up to 2500¥ per pencil. Then I went to bed.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-09 21:05:11

Strong bids! I feel like those would hit paydirt on 80%+ of auctions

2022-01-10 16:58:17

@sideKnocks (atxalais) I got the Yamauchiya order in, however they ALL have cracks in the eraser area, and the yellows seem to be worse with cracks at the tip area. This is a bummer. The whole reason I bought more was because the first shipment were so nice (except the yellows which had the same cracks). They did send another box though. Let me know if you want me to take any erasers out before I ship them out with your Parafernalia.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:00:52

*Thread Reply:* Aw bummer but that's ok. Part of the risk of the hunt. Yeah if you can take out the erasers and the lead that would be great. You can just throw the lead away. I don't need it.

2022-01-10 17:01:26

*Thread Reply:* Ok 👍

2022-01-10 17:01:52

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I wonder if hot/cold changes have any affect on these

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:01:58

*Thread Reply:* Bill me whatever you need. PayPal or Venmo is fine.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:02:02

*Thread Reply:* Yeah it must

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:02:33

*Thread Reply:* Which color revolution did I decide on?

2022-01-10 17:02:40

*Thread Reply:* DM any info like address

2022-01-10 17:02:44

*Thread Reply:* Blue

2022-01-10 17:03:00

*Thread Reply:* It's been wrapped up since I got them

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:03:01

*Thread Reply:* If you have more than one your willing to part with cool. If not no worries.

2022-01-10 17:03:24

*Thread Reply:* I have a little something in there I think you'll like.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:03:55

*Thread Reply:* Awesome! I like parrots.

2022-01-10 17:04:00

*Thread Reply:* I'm about to order a few more though if you want another?

2022-01-10 17:04:48

*Thread Reply:* I'm grabbing an aluminum, titanium and yellow. They have those plus red and maybe orange

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:04:50

*Thread Reply:* Maybe I'll wait for the new components this coming spring

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:05:27

*Thread Reply:* You know what. Grab me a yellow

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:05:35

*Thread Reply:* Yellow is what started all of this. In 1992

2022-01-10 17:05:54

*Thread Reply:* The blue and green are unobtainium as @Pearsonified likes to say

2022-01-10 17:06:49

*Thread Reply:* I won't wait to ship these out. Should be able to get to the PO tomorrow

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:08:18

*Thread Reply:* Coolio. 🎉 thank you for your time

2022-01-10 17:46:10

*Thread Reply:* Although I take that back - I did find green and blue, however the place only ships within Italy.

2022-01-10 17:46:50

*Thread Reply:* So if anyone knows someone…

2022-01-10 17:47:37

*Thread Reply:* I already asked Giardino’s but they didn't want to.

2022-01-10 17:47:54

*Thread Reply:* Maybe I'll try to guilt them into it by what happened to you

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:53:02

*Thread Reply:* Tell them I am destroyed

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 17:53:40

*Thread Reply:* Her name is Susanna

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-10 20:01:18

Seems like a lot of pencils have cracks where translucent plastic narrows in diameter

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-10 20:01:49

My Ohto Piston Sharp SP-5s all have similar cracks to the yellow PD335s pictured here

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 20:21:04

Same for my OHTO Piston in clear brown… made me hesitate to get the rest of the colors.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-10 23:02:49

Forgive me if this has been shared earlier… but these Tradios rock the same color scheme as a recent batch of P205s:

https://twitter.com/giftionerydelta/status/1480391170035707908?s=21

👍 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 05:50:19

Looks like the Sport Chic colors. I wonder if they have the two other colors as well. Black and mauve. I also wonder if it's the same matte paint.

Too bad they don't do the pencil in this.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 06:02:02

Well, it's quite easy to swap out the TRP-55 for another Tradio body…

2022-01-11 06:35:35

Speaking of Tradio, is it common for the lettering on the chrome ring to wipe off? I thought it was dirt at first but it was a part of the 55.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 06:49:27

That's what you get for touching it. 😉

2022-01-11 10:47:04

I know right? That one will just be the only one I use.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 10:47:24

It's not the red one, right?

2022-01-11 10:47:42

Nope the bronze/gold

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 10:48:03

yea that's ok then

😆 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 10:48:08

lol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-11 19:57:02

Does anyone know off of the top of their heads when the PG505 went from Graph to Graphlet?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-12 08:23:15

According to my Catalog spreadsheet, it is the Graph 500 in the US catalogs from 1984 to 1994 and in the International 1997 catalog. It then disappears until showing back up in the 2014 US catalog, as the Graphlet.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-12 08:25:52

Thanks! I appreciate ya.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-12 08:29:04

I have a couple of Graph 505's with Date Codes 7I & 8K. My Graphlet set has codes: 0L, 6K, 0E, 8L & 8L. I bought the Graphlets in 2021, so those are probably 2016 to 2020 mfg dates.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-12 08:47:46

where on the pencil might I find the date codes?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-12 09:32:51

Twist the clip until the opening is lined up with the text.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-12 15:08:34

Can any of you find links to seller's ENDED auctions on Yahoo? I had a seller send me the wrong f**cking pencils, and I want to see if they mixed up packages. Gutted over this one 😞

2022-01-13 06:27:32

*Thread Reply:* You don't have any email for it?

2022-01-13 06:27:56

*Thread Reply:* With auction ID

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-12 15:08:45

Seller's name is west_mountain0101

2022-01-13 06:20:07

Hey just seen this but checking to make sure one of you aren't bidding https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1030883718

ヤフオク!
2022-01-13 06:20:33

I'm gonna bid if nobody is on it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 09:16:47

I bid on that

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 09:16:58

But I was not committed, simply hoping for it to go for under $50

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 09:17:13

But there is a LOT of auction activity right now, and no one is getting anything cheap except in big lots

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 09:17:30

I Snipe Bid 4999 lol

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 10:24:15

Yesterday I learned the Pentel 5 with cannonball tip and colored ring came in 2 different sizes 😔

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 10:24:34

I thought they only came in a medium axis, but it turns out they came in AT LEAST medium and full axis

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-13 10:53:16

*Thread Reply:* The shorter one (about 132mm length) is a P545. The longer one is about 142mm. The model number on that one has not been determined. It might be the same model but with a different generation. Three colors have been seen in the wild (Green, Yellow, Orange).

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:08:49

*Thread Reply:* I have both sizes as well. Does your yellow one have a price sticker on it? I see that your red one does.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:09:19

*Thread Reply:* Or that George's does?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:09:47

*Thread Reply:* My shorter Yellow one has the smaller triangular sticker (pre-JIS)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:10:33

*Thread Reply:* My longer Orange (I always considered it red, but looking close, I guess it is orange) does not have a sticker, so I cannot place if it is older or newer.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:11:00

*Thread Reply:* Both of them have a metal lead reservoir that does not have a date code stamped on it.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 10:24:47

So now I have an orange ring in medium and a yellow ring in full

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 10:25:35

There was a lime green full axis available on YAJ for 3500¥ that I balked on becuase I thought the price was too high, but somebody snatched it up. AS a result, I ended up paying 3500¥ for the yellow-ringed one because I didn't want it to slip away, too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 10:26:49

Here's the medium axis orange ring from George's site: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0aRL4KqR_vc/VvXz7Igr3xI/AAAAAAAADwI/qQtWJtQm4Pw6J7lY_SsG9Y1-YruzsgxxQ/s1600/DSCN0634.JPG

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:13:00

I have started putting together a book about Pentel pencils. More of an identification book, than what I have put together for my collection. Here are the first few pages for discussion.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:19:36

@Knocktype11 is doing the same thing.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:36:59

This would be very useful. I keep a lot of the old catalogs in pdf format open on my machine to refer to. I also have a bunch of random notes from my own detective work over the years but having it all composed in one place is great.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 12:38:36

We could almost “open source” something like this for us collectors and as we fill in more puzzle pieces and learn new info we can contribute updates and have it reviewed and accepted. Kinda like a pull request.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-13 13:23:12

Which catalogs do you have? I ask about these all the time, but nobody has ever volunteered anything...

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 13:41:33

*Thread Reply:* https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2ewtrvxy3iedflk/AADD_ZNru4nx4_EVL_xd3ns4a?dl=0

Dropbox
🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 13:42:04

*Thread Reply:* I don't want to share it publicly, but anyone here on Knockology can have access to these.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 13:42:08

*Thread Reply:* ^ The goods!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 13:53:36

*Thread Reply:* If you have any other Pentel Catalogs, please let me know.

2022-01-13 13:59:28

*Thread Reply:* Somebody hasn’t gone back and read all the threads!

2022-01-13 13:59:57

*Thread Reply:* I about shit myself when I saw them

2022-01-13 14:00:08

*Thread Reply:* Thanks again @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 14:50:59

*Thread Reply:* All of those are in there, except the Corporate Report.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 14:51:12

*Thread Reply:* I have that, just not in that directory.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-14 09:15:40

*Thread Reply:* This is great, Jimmy! Thank you 🙏:skintone6:

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 14:03:17

Hopefully that will work

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 19:27:24

Here is a Technoclic for anyone that needs one. Doesn't have the price sticker but still not a horrible price.

I spoke with the seller and they said 11 euros to ship to Texas.

I don't need any more so I figured I'd share.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 19:27:34

*Thread Reply:* https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pentel-pencil-technoclic-pn105-made-in-japan-/274997091998?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=709-127639-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pentel-pencil-technoclic-pn105-made-in-japan-/274997091998?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=709-127639-2357-0

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 19:28:16

*Thread Reply:* Not cheap but you've seen the prices of these lately.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-14 09:16:13

*Thread Reply:* Isn't the tip damaged on that one/

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-14 09:16:14

*Thread Reply:* ?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-14 11:34:38

*Thread Reply:* Ah yes that does look like the case.

Scratch that.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-13 22:44:13

I don't have a red PD1065. There is only one picture I have seen and it was on twitter: https://twitter.com/yagami1030/status/1023041040582881280

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 22:55:42

Yes! I wasn't really sure a ‘red’ version existed until I saw it side by side with the ‘orange’.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-13 22:58:10

So there look to be exactly two pictures of the red one.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-13 23:02:28

It also looks like it has seen a little use, but not too much. It raises some questions: Why does it have a red cap but the orange ones have black caps? Why was orange even produced? Pentel in the 70s was big on black, red, maybe blue and green, but orange was an unusual color.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 23:28:14

And sooner or later, we will see a red one with a black cap… Lol

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-13 23:31:03

On a different note: Folks, I've been trying to figure out if there's a correlation between the warranty numbers for the legendary Mechanica 0.3 and 0.5 and their supposed manufacturing eras (early, early-mid, mid, late).

If you own these beauties, would you mind sharing a pic of the respective serial numbers along with a close up of the grip/collar?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-14 16:10:02

tfw no PSD5/PWP15 😔

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-14 16:10:18

tfw no Pentel 5 hairline double knock

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-14 16:10:26

😔😔

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 09:14:10

Well that was fast. I tried buying it 😔

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 09:21:52

I still think these “red” ones are first run oranges.

2022-01-15 09:25:55

Don’t even see it on Buyee

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 09:26:11

Yeah it didn't hit buyee.

2022-01-15 09:38:17

Seems to be if it’s tagged as only available in Japan

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-15 15:12:41

At least we now have more pictures of the red one. Look at the crack on the cap! That is good support for the red being a first run of the orange ones and a reasonable excuse for having black caps on all of the rest.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 15:19:52

I love love love how on the Technica I and II you can knock either from the top eraser or the side button. If that's not cool I don't know what is.

🙌 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-15 15:20:33

So it is a double-knock pencil?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 15:22:09

Not in the sense of a vanishing point but yes, yes it is.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 20:21:42

A drawing and mini review from 4-5 years ago…

👍 Pearsonified, Knocktype11, Heath, Dry
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-15 20:32:43

I love that!

2022-01-16 08:26:50

So a couple Kerry's have caught my eye. What is the deal with the prices though? Some new/unused are $8 and some are $100. Is it just age?

2022-01-16 08:27:24

I know nothing about the Kerry

2022-01-16 08:28:32

But for under $10, it seems like a no-brainer

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:34:02

I should have bid an insane amount to get this, big regret:

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:34:03

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u1030907720

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:35:59

I was watching that one but let you have a shot at it.

You let us both down. 😂

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:46:28

Pitiful

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:46:43

Never imagined over $30 per pencil wouldn't cut it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:47:22

Too bad Mercari doesn't sort by MP vs BP

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:47:51

I also don't understand how they draw the line between "only available in Japan" vs. not

2022-01-16 08:51:03

There's a turquoise blue and a red Kerry with 5 on them. The pair for $80 - buy or not?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:51:10

I say hell no

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:51:18

you can add a gold skeleton to that mix for the same price

👍 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:51:59

or a silver skeleton for about the same (I've seen both of these sets on Mercari)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:54:39

I'd like to know where taht dude on eBay, mtwritingco, gets his stock

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:58:35

I say buy one of the current day cheap Kerry's to see if you connect with them first.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:58:54

From there you can chase after the limited editions and the ones with “5”.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:59:05

If you connect with it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:59:34

I like the Kerry a lot but I don't allow myself to get emotionally connected to them.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:59:44

Same with the Smash.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 08:59:56

Same, I really love both

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:00:07

But just don't feel any push to collect the various colors

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:00:17

With that said, I absolutely want a gold skeleton Kerry

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:01:08

My son is over here climbing on everything

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:01:12

The Toolbox™ is in some jeopardy

2022-01-16 09:02:23

Danger danger

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:03:11

Gonna clean pencils with BarKeeper's Friend in a little while

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:03:22

Just can't clean gold accented pieces with it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:03:29

works great on plastic and chromed parts, tho

2022-01-16 09:04:32

*Thread Reply:* Really?!

2022-01-16 09:05:09

*Thread Reply:* That surprises me as I would worry about scratching

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:55:19

*Thread Reply:* I've only had problems with gold plating—can't get the BarKeeper's Friend anywhere near the "gold" parts, as they will scratch and fade

2022-01-16 09:03:34

Oh, love that stuff

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:03:39

as well as bare aluminum or stainless steel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:03:49

I've had a couple of eye-popping rehabs

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:04:14

Is the skeleton the same as the gold demonstrator?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:04:28

This one stands out: https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/p71ixc/the_kinto_3_is_the_coolest_pencil_youve_never/

reddit
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:04:35

Skeleton and demonstrator are interchangeable terms

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:04:40

Skeleton just sounds a lot cooler

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:04:45

Ok. Yeah I have one of those. I love it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:06:41

I've only touched it once.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:07:21

Today's prices have me reeling. Maybe I should drop $250 apiece on some H-3003 and H-3005

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:07:25

because they'll be worth $600 tomorrow

2022-01-16 09:11:22

They'll only get older, harder to find and more expensive.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:15:40

Yeah but at the same time there's only so many collectors and we're not likely to have younger generations collect since most of us collectors are emotionally connected to mechanical pencils from childhood. I wouldn't overpay for something that I'm not emotionally connected to just because it could go up in value. Prices/value will probably do what baseball cards did.

2022-01-16 09:16:53

That is a good point but baseball cards are utterly useless

2022-01-16 09:17:16

That was bound to happen

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:17:18

If the prices would have continued to climb from when I was a kid I'd have a small fortune.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:19:04

Anyway. My position is that I don't buy a pencil cuz it could go up in value. I buy what I'm connected to. Started as a kid with the quicker clicker. I wanted all the colors but couldn't afford them. Now I can.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Heath, Dry
2022-01-16 09:20:25

No, me either. I'm only buying things I like and that will bring me joy.

2022-01-16 09:20:48

I'm not in this to make money on it.

2022-01-16 09:22:19

And yes that's the thing too - I just never had the opportunity to be able to afford spending money on something that will just sit around.

2022-01-16 09:22:51

So now I'm going a little cray cray

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:23:31

There’s a lot of worse things we could be doing with our disposable income, right?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:23:59

But we choose to fill up tool boxes with pencils.

2022-01-16 09:24:10

Exactly. I've spent $500 on weed.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:24:38

And when we die somebody’s going to be wtf is this

👍 Heath, Dry
2022-01-16 09:25:00

And toss it on eBay

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:45:02

Definitely getting easier to justify insane prices for pencils I like

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:45:10

In my case, I want the H-3003 and H-3005

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:45:22

I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this Mercari lot even though it's overpriced

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:45:51

includes H-1094, PG1804, Locus Metaphys with broken pipe slide (but lead advancement works), and an M4-1052 (which I already have in duplicate)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:46:27

PG1804 in good condition is a 10,000¥ pencil (at least), H-1094 is at least 9000 (but with that one today going for 11,000)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:47:01

I finally scored my high school pencil, an Ohto Grip 500 in red

🎉 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:47:24

Wish I remembered where I Got it back in the day

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:49:29

*Thread Reply:* Eckerds

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:50:11

*Thread Reply:* hmmm, I dunno if we had those in Kentucky

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:01:55

*Thread Reply:* It was our local franchise drugstore growing up

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:02:00

*Thread Reply:* And the first place I worked.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:47:35

I used to ogle pencils at Office Depot whenever I got the chance to go there

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:47:49

I remember they had an acrylic case with the Staedtler Micromatic for like $75 or $100

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:57:06

When I was in elementary school one of my science projects made it to state. While presenting at regionals and state I visited the university bookstores. It was there that I saw Pentels in a glass case. I had only seen the pencils that were for sale at our local drug stores. There were so many colors I didn't know about. I bought a yellow quicker clicker and felt on top of the world. I lost it pretty quickly. That always stuck with me.

👍 Heath, Dry
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:57:29

Pretty awesome story!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:57:37

Those early affinities never go away

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:57:43

Nope.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:58:18

I felt similarly when I saw drafting pencils in college

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:58:30

I had only seen a very small sampling of what was available in Kentucky when I was a kid

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:58:49

so seeing proper drafting pencils in college was like, WOW OMG

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:59:00

And then I discovered all these Japanese ones I'd never seen or heard of

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:59:07

University bookstores in the 90s. Sigh. 💕

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:59:07

Probably still running on those fumes today

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:59:19

Yup that's what gotcha

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:59:40

I still remember buying my Sanford Pro Touch with rubber grip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 09:59:58

And I still have that pencil, even though the rubber is shot and the lead hardness indicator just spins and spins

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:00:11

bought 500 sheets of green engineer's pad that day

2022-01-16 10:01:33

*Thread Reply:* I LOVE that stuff

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:02:56

*Thread Reply:* I don't do my freehand writing on it anymore because I want to develop my straight line ability and also use larger letters than fit in the grid

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:03:01

*Thread Reply:* but I use it for absolutely everything else

2022-01-16 10:05:14

*Thread Reply:* I just print it out these days

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:00:15

still have a few sheets of that, too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:01:45

This seller has a bunch of Pianissimos for sale:

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:04:15

Yeah I don't get into those.

😂 Dry
2022-01-17 02:18:29

*Thread Reply:* Me neither... they feel kinda cheap. Gotta keep the bloodlines pure.

😆 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:04:22

Cool colors though

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:04:35

Are they side clicks, or does that clicker thing just push down parallel to the shaft?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:04:58

It's a regular side knock button

👍 Pearsonified, Dry
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:11:05

I have two pretty cool pens I know are valuable, but I don't know HOW valuable or where to sell them

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:11:14

one is a Pilot Grandee Priere in mirror black finish

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:11:22

the other is an etched stainless steel Mitsubishi Jaguar

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:22:10

Wish I understood the collective consciousness that caused competitive prices to go up by 20% over the past month

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:22:23

It's like Japanese collectors went brain dead through christmas and then hit the cocaine in January

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:28:45

Well I got back on the subreddit last month. 😉

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-16 10:28:53

Just kidding. I have no idea why it's booming.

😂 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-16 11:00:25

Is P875 a real model number? There are not many Pentel models with an 8 digit. Mostly the black one is referenced as a P1075. Given that the price stickers on these are not same as the P1075 models seems to indicate that they are not the same.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 11:06:56

The navy one is certainly different from the yellow one (which is definitely a P1075)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 11:07:07

therefore, it stands to reason that it would also carry a different model number

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-16 11:07:26

800¥ kinda fits with P8--, so P875 seems perfectly reasonable as a model number here

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 07:22:12

Since the model number of these seems to be based on the price, and the only other Pentel pencil models, that I know of, that are based on price are the Accugraphs, these may have come out at around the same time.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 07:39:20

*Thread Reply:* Speaking of model numbers. Do you know why certain model numbers were chosen? Pentel came out with the P340 series in 1977 and then came out with a more affordable version in 1979 with the P335. Where would they have gotten 340 to begin with?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 07:59:49

*Thread Reply:* I have no clue how model numbers were chosen, other than the Accugraphs.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 09:36:35

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 any ideas?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-17 11:41:17

*Thread Reply:* TL;DR: no. I don't have a clue and it is frustrating

I am completely unconvinced of the logic of the model being based on the price. Looking for consistency for model numbers from Pentel is very entertaining but has not been fruitful. Sometimes the model number "matches" the model name. Sometimes not. Sometimes new models are introduced which are consistent with the numbers from the same year.

So USUALLY the last digit is the lead diameter, but not always. Sometimes it indicates the number of leads which can be held in the pencil. Sometimes it indicates that it is a black version of a pencil. All I can say is that looking at the letters at the beginning of a model number may give you an idea about the type of pencil. The PD[0-9]** pencils seem to be all side clickers of some sort.

It could be a cultural thing but I suspect that it is more of a marketing thing. Pentel has been around for a while. Expecting consistency over the entire time only leads to disappointment.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 10:14:59

I really wish you could swap out the two metal top-knock buttons on the Kerry. I use the pencil with the cap posted and it would look really good with the stylized top-knock button on the cap.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-17 10:22:23

Like a gold one or something?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-17 10:22:45

or just grooved cap vs. plain cap?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 10:23:46

*Thread Reply:*

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-17 12:47:43

*Thread Reply:* Grooved vs. plain then

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-17 12:48:01

*Thread Reply:* Makes sense—I really appreciate grooved caps

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-17 12:48:46

*Thread Reply:* It's why I love these Reforms: https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/npazhg/reform_executive_pencils/

reddit
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-17 11:44:04

I did pass through Jimmy's spreadsheet looking for model numbers with an 8 digit. There were not many: Pencils with 8 in model number: • A185 Clean Sharplet • A800 Sterling sliding sleeve • A810 Sterling sliding sleeve
• A811 Sterling sliding sleeve -black • A820 Sterling sliding sleeve • P1085 • PG80x GraphGear 800 • PH158 - 8 color lead holder • PH80x - Multi-8 pencils x is not lead diameter There have not been many.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 21:07:30

Does someone on here have both PG5 pencils with the yellow ring and the silver ring?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-17 21:07:47

That they could take a good side-by-side picture of.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-18 14:12:07

*Thread Reply:* I have both. Neither has any printing though. Are you interested?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-18 14:12:27

*Thread Reply:* In the pictures I mean.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 14:38:32

*Thread Reply:* I actually found a good set on mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com, so I don't need it now.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 14:38:35

*Thread Reply:* Thanks though

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 13:18:51

Nope sorry. Only have a yellow ring. Are you looking to compare the differences?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 13:48:00

No. It is for the identification book that I am putting together.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 13:48:18

Ahh I see I see.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 14:37:27

I will try to send the latest update of it out tonight.

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-01-18 14:40:46

I have two different yellow versions, but not the metal version.  I do have 3 versions of the metal PMG.  (I don’t have the red plastic though.)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 22:08:48

Here is the Pentel Pencil Identification Book I have put together. I started with the US 1979 catalog, added the items from the JP & US 1980 catalog, the 1970 JP One-Sheet and then added all of the 1970's pencils that I know of that are not in any of the catalogs. There are still a few items that I need information and pictures. Once that is done, I want to add the known 1960's items, then start going forward from 1980 adding a catalog at a time, so we miss as few items as possible.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-18 22:56:38

*Thread Reply:* This is an excellent start! Unknown01 beats me as well as far as the model. I was calling it an A5 for a few days last week since both of mine have A-5 molded into the plastic. George's version of this pencil has an A-3 so back to the drawing board! Alot of the really early Pentels had Sxx numbers. I have also seen this pencil in black. Mine are brown. but not glossy. The unknown02 is a definitely an early or first generation S5x model. It has some pretty deep ridges on the grip.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:00:13

*Thread Reply:* This is so great! You'd think that over all of these years I'd know all of these models without having to look them up but I'm nowhere's close to that. This is way better than scrolling through all the pdf catalogs I keep open on my desktop. Thanks for the effort!

That Unknown01 is so cool and reminds me of how I still want a set of P35 Hues.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:43:26

*Thread Reply:* I want some P100s!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:44:21

*Thread Reply:* The image of the P1075s is just glorious

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:44:53

*Thread Reply:* (and I still hate myself for not bidding high enough on that yellow P1075 auction)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:48:48

*Thread Reply:* P505 is definitely available in red as well (I have one and have seen others for sale)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:49:53

*Thread Reply:* Interestingly re: the P545, Jimmy and I have the opposites—he has the short yellow; I have the long yellow. I have the short orange; he has the long orange.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:50:59

*Thread Reply:* P875 definitely came in a navy colorway as well

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:03:53

*Thread Reply:* I think the PSD5 is PWP15 in Japan (and not PWP5)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:05:45

*Thread Reply:* SG45 in blue is an all-time great, just a fantastic color

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:07:23

*Thread Reply:* I don't know what the model distinction is for Unknown02, but I do know it's the earliest model of what I call the full axis Pentel 5

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:08:25

*Thread Reply:* These early productions are characterized by deeper grooves in teh plastic grip and were available in at least 4 colors (black, burgundy, turquoise, and red/pink)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:08:31

*Thread Reply:* Mine looks pink, but it may be faded

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:09:05

*Thread Reply:* My burgundy looks darker than the one pictured in this PDF, and my pink one looks much lighter...so perhaps there was a truer red version as well

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:15:57

*Thread Reply:* This is why I posted this here. I want these corrections to make this a better document for everybody, since there is nothing else like it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:18:06

*Thread Reply:* Another addition that I will be doing is taking a photo of all of the Pentel 5 pencils (at least all I have), with rulers spaced between them. Then having an identification code at the bottom.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:20:37

*Thread Reply:* One of my latest finds was the ML51. I had never seen nor heard of this one before I was doing a deep dive on Cuirassier's blog.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:21:28

*Thread Reply:* Yes! I learned of that in the latter half of 2021; makes sense the different axis lengths would have different designations

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:21:35

*Thread Reply:* I have ML51 bodies in many colors

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:21:41

*Thread Reply:* original body was the PS535 lookalike

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:22:21

*Thread Reply:* They also released a version of the ML51 with "Hi•Black" branding; I believe these pencils were shipped with 2B lead

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:23:59

*Thread Reply:* • P505 = short axis • ML51 = medium axis • ML5 = full axis

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:24:29

*Thread Reply:* The corn, rose, and wheat models are ML51 bodies with modified P555 tips (with sliding sleeve)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:24:36

*Thread Reply:* Kind of a cool crossover there

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:25:02

*Thread Reply:* And then there are also "Pentel 3" branded pencils that are just ML51 bodies with different badging

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:25:17

*Thread Reply:* The variety is staggering

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:25:37

*Thread Reply:* Until yesterday, I always thought the Hi Black was a late pencil (80's) due to the different style sticker. I got my first one in yesterday, and the date code on the reservoir is780522.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:25:40

*Thread Reply:* Pilot did similar stuff, but we know even LESS about their model distinctions

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:25:59

*Thread Reply:* oh wow! I was really happy when I got my first Hi•Black

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:26:05

*Thread Reply:* Love the darker lead and that body style

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:26:09

*Thread Reply:* I believe that @Knocktype11 has a box of the ML5, and it is the medium axis.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:26:43

*Thread Reply:* uh oh, what's the full axis? (I thought the one pictured in your PDF was a full axis due to the length from teh grip joint to the start fo the clip)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:27:04

*Thread Reply:* Also the Corn Rose and Wheat models were posted with a shipping box designating them as PS705.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:27:40

*Thread Reply:* Yes, the uncataloged items, especially from the 70's is staggering

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:27:43

*Thread Reply:* Easy to see 3 different axis lengths here: https://pearsonified.com/images/pencils/pentel-5-axes.jpg

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:28:01

*Thread Reply:* PS705 makes sense to me on the Corn, Rose, and Wheat

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:28:51

*Thread Reply:* I guess it's really hard to tell middle from long from just a picture

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:29:00

*Thread Reply:* I always thought the full axis pencils were the S55 with different colors

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:29:01

*Thread Reply:* the distance from joint to start of clip looks similar

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:29:16

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, but at least 2 versions exist that massively predate the S55

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:29:47

*Thread Reply:* both shown in that image above—black, turquoise, and burgundy are the oldest, followed by the black one just to the right of them

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:29:56

*Thread Reply:* and then the first true S55 appears on the far right

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:30:43

*Thread Reply:* Somewhere online in recent days, I saw an S59 with a different color grip as well, but I don't remember where.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:31:21

*Thread Reply:* An older version of it, that is.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 09:59:18

*Thread Reply:* RE: P875 Navy colorway - It is my understanding that all of the color versions were the P1075 and the plain metal was the P875. My P1075 Blue is stamped P1075 in the metal ring. Or are you referring to the grip?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 10:01:02

*Thread Reply:* The grip

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 10:03:20

*Thread Reply:* And, here is the post with the Green Grip early S59 http://mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com/2013/05/pentel-5.html

mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 10:36:30

*Thread Reply:* oh wow! This is amazing

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 10:36:54

*Thread Reply:* I htink the red one on that page is mis-identified as an S55

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:03:43

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified What is a "true S55"?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:11:15

*Thread Reply:* This: https://images.officeworld.com/products/500/spr_11966968.JPG

• Full axis • Smoother grip than predecessor models • "05 Pentel" silkscreen notation just above where barrel meets grip • 2mm fixed lead sleeve

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:11:59

*Thread Reply:* If you can find catalogs that use "S55" to reference ANY predecessor models, I will stand corrected

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:12:26

*Thread Reply:* But my understanding is "Classic Deluxe" was used first, and then "S55" was used later to refer to the precise pencil pictured above

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:13:34

*Thread Reply:* I have never seen either reference used for the older Pentel 5 models, which Jimmy refers to as "ML5" in his PDF

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:14:06

*Thread Reply:* So basically, my claim is anything with an etched "Pentel 5" (or similar) notation on the barrel is NOT an S55

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:50:59

*Thread Reply:* I'll post some pictures of some boxes that I have. S55 was used from the beginning.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 11:56:50

*Thread Reply:* The S55 in the 1982 catalog is etched. It is clearly marked as S55.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:10:35

*Thread Reply:* I just purchased this item off Etsy https://www.etsy.com/listing/853174070/vintage-pentel-ml5-mechanical-pencil-hi?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details

Etsy
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:11:25

*Thread Reply:* If you look at the 4th picture, the sticker clearly says ML5 (the whole reason I purchased it). It looks to be the middle axis size. Once I get it, I will verify this.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:26:29

*Thread Reply:* Before seeing your PDF, I thought ML5 was only used to refer to the middle axis. (I still wonder if this may be the case.)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:27:12

*Thread Reply:* And by extension, I thought ML-51 was only used to refer to a middle axis with this same design, but in all black plastic (rather than plastic + aluminum)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:27:46

*Thread Reply:* ok, great, is this 1982 catalog available for browsing?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:33:18

*Thread Reply:* I can now confirm S55 was used to refer to the full axis pencil with "5 Pentel" etching on the barrel in the 1979 catalog

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:34:00

*Thread Reply:* "0.7 Pentel" and "0.9 Pentel" silkscreening was already in use on the 7 and 9 at that time, but the 5 still had the classic etched branding

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:34:43

*Thread Reply:* Only question now is what model distinction was given to the originals in this lineup (the ones with deeper grooves in the grip and the older version of the etching)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:35:47

*Thread Reply:* It's crazy to think that most of my executive Pentels were produced before 1979 😳

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:43:11

*Thread Reply:* First use of "0.5 Pentel" silkscreening on the S55 (that I can find) was in 1984

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:43:47

*Thread Reply:* The Technomatic appeared for the first time in either 1983 or 1984, too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:44:44

*Thread Reply:* PA5 gave way to the Graphlet in either 1983 or 1984

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:45:44

*Thread Reply:* Pentel ROLLY pencils first appeared in 1985 under the moniker "clicsharp"

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:47:14

*Thread Reply:* These clicsharp models are extremely rare and would each fetch at least 15,000¥ on YAJ

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:47:37

*Thread Reply:* I certainly value them above the Technomatic

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:48:06

*Thread Reply:* Technoclic debuted in America in 1985

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:48:30

*Thread Reply:* 4 colors were available—Black, red, blue, and green

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:49:15

*Thread Reply:* The first P125 "Ceramicron" pencil appeared in 1985 as well, but only in the silver and black colorway

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:49:51

*Thread Reply:* Also, lead hardness indicator windows were added to the Accugraph series in 1985. It doesn't look like the 0.4 EVER made it to American shores for standard retail, though

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:51:12

*Thread Reply:* The Clicsharp series was in full swing by 1990, but it doesn't look like it was called the ROLLY at that point yet...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:51:39

*Thread Reply:* (I'm REALLY surprised we don't see more of these on resale markets.)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:53:11

*Thread Reply:* Ah HA! I've wondered about this for some time: The Q525 was released in alternate colors (besides silver) that were often used for custom branding. For example, I have a "Budweiser" version with the red base (referred to as Q45 in the 1990 catalog). Other colors were black and blue, but I've never seen any examples of either out in the wild

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:54:05

*Thread Reply:* There was a gold version, too, and similar to other product lines, this one is the Q565.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:59:20

*Thread Reply:* Also, a correction of an earlier statement:

"S55" was used LONG before "Classic Deluxe," which appears to have been trotted out sometime in the late 90s

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:59:52

*Thread Reply:* All of the catalogs I reference can be found on my Dropbox Share, which can be accessed at the Channel Details for #pentel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:03:50

*Thread Reply:* The Japanese 1980 catalog includes an Injecto in 0.4 only; this makes me wonder if the Injecto was only ever 0.4 in Japan and 0.5 in America

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:08:24

*Thread Reply:* Welp, I learned some things: • 1970s catalogs are the holy grail, and they also seem WOEFULLY incomplete regarding all available models

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:09:08

*Thread Reply:* It also looks like the Sharplet 500/501 must have debuted after 1990

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:26:24

*Thread Reply:* Rolly was the Japan market name for the Clicsharp. The model numbers are the same.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:29:43

*Thread Reply:* It is easy to get wrapped up in model names. The high order bit is the model number. That stays the same even across markets and years. It even persists through radical design changes.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:46:47

*Thread Reply:* Not always. Take a look at the PWP15/PSD5

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:47:35

*Thread Reply:* Most of the time though, they do stay the same.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 14:46:09

*Thread Reply:* That is a good point. Do you know of others like this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 16:03:06

*Thread Reply:* Not to that extent. Although I have never seen a side-by-side comparison of the PWP15 vs PSD5, so they may be labeled differently.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 08:57:05

*Thread Reply:* RE: Sharplet 500 - I believe that the Sharplet 500 (Q545) debuted in the mid to late-80's. There had to be a reason that the Q45 (sister to Q525 & Q565) did not use Q545 as the model number. The only reason I can see is that Q545 was already being used. And the earliest Date Code I have for one of these pencils is 880617 for my Q525. So I believe that this pushes the Q545 Sharplet 500 back to at least that date, if not earlier.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 09:00:02

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 RE: Model differences - Another obvious difference is the P320 (Japan) vs P200 (worldwide).

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 09:01:01

*Thread Reply:* Another one will be in the next version of the Pentel ID Book, and that is the Rolly vs Clicsharp.

The model name starts with PC, followed by a three-digit number, and this number indicates the price, domestic/export and size in that order. The price digit 1 = ¥1500, 2 = ¥2000 and 3 = ¥3000. The domestic/export digit: 0-4 are for domestic (Japan) use and 5-9 are for export. https://m.blog.naver.com/enne313/30157977146

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 09:01:38

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified check out this about the Clicsharp vs Rolly model numbers.

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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:28:22

*Thread Reply:* This is phenomenal

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 22:21:47

About the notes on the PG15… it says the shafts for Accugraph series are plastic? I've always assumed they were anodised aluminum.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:12:28

*Thread Reply:* That may actually be the case. I wrote this based on information I found on the PG15. I just received my PG1505 & PG2003 from Japan yesterday, and have not had a chance to examine them.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:13:45

*Thread Reply:* As far as the dates you have, you probably have better information than I do there. This is why I posted this here. This is my first pass, I want corrections to make this better for everybody.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 19:01:39

*Thread Reply:* No worries. Let me try to find my sources for verification :-)

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-18 22:23:29

My Accugraph notes from various Japanese sources:

Ver. 1 launched 1976 (0.5), 1977 (0.3), 1979 (0.4), produced thru 1991-3; Ver. 2 c. .

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:05:13

*Thread Reply:* The 1985 US catalog shows version 2 of the PG1505 and PG2003

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:08:52

*Thread Reply:* 1984 and prior shows Version1

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 17:29:15

*Thread Reply:* That's fantastic! Nothing like a printed catalog to combat Wiki BS.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 07:52:19

So who bought the green Technoclic on ebay? 😁

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:18:53

*Thread Reply:* I placed a minimum bid on it. If I won it, great, if not...

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:19:06

*Thread Reply:* Obviously, my minimum bid did not win.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:20:43

*Thread Reply:* Surprised it went as high as it did—final price is comparable to what you might see on YAJ (but still probably not quite there)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:23:49

*Thread Reply:* I had a bid up to $40

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:24:17

*Thread Reply:* I was going all out 😉

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:24:43

*Thread Reply:* I got a notification from eBay that it's been relisted

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:31:26

*Thread Reply:* I saw that as well. Gonna give it another shot—maybe this time I will actually bid before going to bed

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:33:17

*Thread Reply:* I'll create an NFT market for Knockology so that we can all own a portion of it. 😉

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 08:36:40

*Thread Reply:* lol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 09:55:54

I have added the US 1965 One-Sheet to my catalog directory.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:40:42

Apparently the Pentel Injecto was only released in 0.5 size in America?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 12:40:47

Surprised I've never seen one on fleaBay

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:01:37

I can't read Japanese, but someone who can may be able to identify the original model designation for the "Pentel 5" series from this 1970 product sheet (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2ewtrvxy3iedflk/AABrlp32fldthMxm-hDnoMkEa/Pentel%20of%20Japan%20-%201970%20one-sheet.pdf?dl=0)

Dropbox
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:05:13

*Thread Reply:* According to Google Translate (phone app), it says Sharp Five.

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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:06:18

*Thread Reply:* Cool! I like that name

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:48:55

*Thread Reply:* They list the ML51 as Sharp Black

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 14:44:57

*Thread Reply:* I think that is an S551. I don't really know that this is the number. If anyone has a reference please let me know. The length is the same as the S55 and appears in the picture to have a ridged grip. So not ML51 which has a smooth grip like the ML5

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 15:39:55

*Thread Reply:* I mis-remembered the ML51. They list it as Black Five.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 16:05:33

*Thread Reply:* I have it under S551X since I am guessing about the number.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 16:06:15

*Thread Reply:* I just replaced the Japan 1970 One-Sheet. The replacement has a comment, with the translations of the pencils (before the "/"). Here they are

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 16:06:17

*Thread Reply:* Mechanica Mechanica Graph

Sharp Silver

Mechanica 0.5 Sharp Gold Graph Pencil Sharp Five Black Five Pell (PEL) Sharp Eleven

S-105

Sharp Eleven

Sharp Nine Zuisney (Disney) Sharp

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 16:14:54

*Thread Reply:* That is cool. The model number for the Pel is PEL as far as I have been able to find. I have a picture of box somewhere. It would have been nice to have more model numbers in that page though.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-19 13:02:11

Surprisingly, the Pentel PEL appears on this sheet, too, making it far older than I ever realized

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 18:00:32

The Pel box. It shows the model number as PEL. Now the question is: what is Pel?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 18:48:32

*Thread Reply:* The box seems to sport the logo for the OSAKA70 world expo

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 19:01:42

*Thread Reply:* Yes! I noticed it as well. That sort of gives it a no-later-than date.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 18:01:39

When I first saw the PEL pencils, I thought they were from the 60's and were a name Pentel used before Pentel.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-19 18:04:46

They are likely from the late 60s. I have not seen any with the new logo.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 18:58:00

Here’s my theory for PEL: the Japanese characters are ‘ぺ/pe’ and ‘ル/ru’, which can be taken as a contraction of Pe-n-te-ru. The character for ‘Pe’ is the same whether in hiragana (native words) or katakana (foreign words), but the ‘ru’ is katakana - so 'Pel’ is a ‘western name’ that is also a contraction of Pentel.

With the context of EXPO70, maybe Pel was named and sold as ‘a little Pentel’ to international visitors.

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 18:59:00

Oh man I've read something like that in the past. Let me try to recall where that may have been.

2022-01-19 19:02:17

Yeah, that’s ringing something for me too…

2022-01-19 22:36:19

New additions. Sorry for the JJ lens flare and the fact you've all seen them before.

Also I have to say that even though they're expensive, fromjapan do a great job with packaging.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 06:35:52

*Thread Reply:* I love these! I have a couple of the green ones. I've been eyeing the brown one lately.

2022-01-20 06:46:00

*Thread Reply:* I bought 2 of each of these thinking I'd on-sell on ebay... but now I'm not so sure I want to let them go.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 06:58:26

*Thread Reply:* Too many for sell right now. Hold off and sell later.

2022-01-20 15:23:12

*Thread Reply:* True. No urgency anyway.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-19 23:10:58

I went for the green as well. Always a sucker for clear green pens and pencils.

😁 Dry
2022-01-20 01:57:50

Same! Love this green especially.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 14:01:15

Slowly making progress on dating some of the Clic family pencils. To get to the date code you have to remove the pocket clip which is far from easy.

The only surprise I've come to at this point is that the Disney series DPD355s are from the late 90s and not the 80s. Also, all PD355s and their cousins are mid to late 90s.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-20 14:13:08

*Thread Reply:* How can you tell that they DPDs are form the 90's and not the 80s? Is there more than a 2 digit date code?

2022-01-20 14:29:01

*Thread Reply:* 😀

2022-01-20 14:32:14

*Thread Reply:* I thought you saw it but if you look back, we found that the lead fill hole opening is either narrow (pre-93) or wide (post-93).

2022-01-20 14:32:40

*Thread Reply:* The DPD’s have the wide opening.

2022-01-20 14:33:20

*Thread Reply:* And that seems to coincide with the change from green to white erasers.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-20 14:33:56

*Thread Reply:* That makes sense. I forgot about that part and was thinking that it was based on the date code.

2022-01-20 15:25:13

*Thread Reply:* Do the clips go back on properly? I'd be worried about loosening.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 15:26:40

*Thread Reply:* yeah they do but I had to take my time. Way too much time

2022-01-20 14:04:14

So you got the clips off the 335's?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 14:05:19

Yes. It sucks.

2022-01-20 14:06:18

Like not something you want to do to them all for fear of damage kind of sucks?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 14:07:12

Yes. Not worth it.

2022-01-20 14:07:57

they pressed on or glued?

2022-01-20 14:08:37

I was surprised when I found that the internals will come right out the front and not glued in

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 14:09:22

Seems to be glued

2022-01-20 20:44:15

Also are we officially calling them the clic family now?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 21:15:43

That's what they are according to pentel

2022-01-21 02:14:36

*Thread Reply:* Fair enough. I'm all for accuracy. I'd associated clic with the solid barrel QCs sold my andrey on ebay and didn't realise it was the overaching term for all of them. You guys are a wealth of info.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-20 22:52:41

Managed to get hold of a MEC 0.3 mid-late type… 1969 was a great year.

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-21 00:35:14

*Thread Reply:* Sweet! Is the MEC condition as tood as the watch?

These are totally out of my league. I am a beat-up Casio and S55 kind of guy.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 00:41:39

*Thread Reply:* The MEC is in pretty good condition, no loose parts or bad scratches. Just no box and papers. And it's what you'd call a mid-late version with the shallow grid on the grip. I'd love to have an earlier version with deeper grooves or even the first version with the <> arrows on the twist grip. But… the asking price is just too high.

The watch itself was a gift - long service award from my boss. I'd probably never spend the full price on one of these either.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 10:48:54

Somehow, I've only seen one Rolly MP for sale since June...

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 11:05:19

There are also a couple of ML51s at https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1498.html

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:46:41

In an effort to identify why the pocket clips on the PD335 Popn’Pops tend to crack, I measured the erasers and pocket clip eraser insert sizes on 10 PD335 Popn’Pops and 10 regular PD335s.

PD335 Popn’Pop  • Average eraser insert size: 7.242 mm • Average eraser size: 7.32 mm

Regular PD335 • Average eraser insert size: 7.229 mm • Average eraser size: 7.15 mm

The results show that the dimensions of the pocket clips are identical across both sets. What’s obviously different is the size of the erasers in the Popn’Pops. You can also see in the picture below that the erasers visually look different. Both erasers are Pentel’s hi-polymer greens but there must be something different about the polymer composition that makes the one on the left age differently over time. These erasers are 40 years old and I bet that they have expanded over time. According to Pentel specs, the official size of the eraser is 7.15mm which shows that the erasers found in the Popn'Pops either expanded over time OR they were manufactured a smidge too big to begin with.

Not all of the pocket clips on the Popn’Pops crack and to further investigate why I could run temperate variance tests to see how the erasers and plastic respond to climate changes but I don’t think it’s worth it. 

The damn erasers are different and too big. Case closed :)

Here is a picture of the two erasers. I went through a few dozens of examples and every eraser in the Popn’Pop looked like this.

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:56:33

*Thread Reply:* I wonder if the Popn'pops were made at a different location. It might also be a different lot of erasers. Anyway I have removed the erasers from my PD335s.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:58:05

*Thread Reply:* Clearly a different lot of erasers.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:58:28

*Thread Reply:* Now, time to find that red 1065 for me. Go.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-21 19:05:40

*Thread Reply:* I am looking. I think it is with my swingline...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:48:49

half day fridays are awesome 🙂

2022-01-21 14:53:00

That’s great. I thought the erasers all looked a little different when I pulled them all out. Compared to my box of green PDE-1's, they were much shinier and smooth looking as you’ve shown.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:56:05

How do y'all buy from Yamauchiya? With Buyee? With a different service?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:56:49

*Thread Reply:* I use Zenmarket

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:57:41

*Thread Reply:* I also use Zen.
This should be in #general

2022-01-21 14:57:56

*Thread Reply:* I have a Tenso address and ship to it.

2022-01-21 14:58:25

*Thread Reply:* How are you using Zen? Do you have to enter the purchase url and wait for them?

2022-01-21 14:58:42

*Thread Reply:* Then they charge you for each item.

2022-01-21 14:59:31

*Thread Reply:* Tenso will just take what arrives and turns it around like Buyee.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:59:44

*Thread Reply:* Can you move it, Knocktype? I'm not gonna trip over myself constantly to ensure messages are perfect

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 14:59:59

*Thread Reply:* Literally piggybacking off Jimmy's comment above

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 15:00:06

*Thread Reply:* "shoulda answered in his thread"

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 15:00:10

*Thread Reply:* This is my first time using Slack

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 15:00:48

*Thread Reply:* tbh everything should be in one channel except posts that catalog specific pencisl from specific manufacturers

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 15:01:00

*Thread Reply:* sort of like compiling a museum

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-21 15:12:19

*Thread Reply:* Valid points all around.

Right now we're trying to have an organized informal way to get this group going. We're all learning what's the best way to communicate this crazy hobby of ours.

Speaking of museum. It would be really cool to have a wiki one day that is broken down by manufacturers and models that we here at Knockology maintain. Similar to the awesome work that Jimmy is currently doing. Would be really neat if you could click a checkbox on an item to identify that you own it. That would be awesome to see who has what pieces. Anyways… that's a lot of work but who knows where we may be in the future.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-21 15:20:40

*Thread Reply:* I would LOVE something like that

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-21 16:01:27

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified I would have moved the thread to another channel if I could. The note was for future reference.

2022-01-25 03:39:00

*Thread Reply:* Kinda like BrickSet @sideKnocks (atxalais)???

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 04:57:49

*Thread Reply:* I'm not completely familiar with all of brikeset’s features but something along those lines.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-25 07:54:25

*Thread Reply:* Uh oh, I went ham on LEGO before the pencils...I think pencils probably replaced that sprawling obsession (we had a city that took over our house, lol)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 07:58:35

*Thread Reply:* Legos and pencils are way better than other obsessions.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-25 08:50:37

*Thread Reply:* Can confirm

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:30:46

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pentel-0-5mm-PG1505-Mechanical-Drafting-pencil-plus-HB-lead-spares-/224792650619?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pentel-0-5mm-PG1505-Mechanical-Drafting-pencil-plus-HB-lead-spares-/224792650619?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:30:56

Anyone bid on this?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:38:24

*Thread Reply:* This person has some carded

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:38:26

*Thread Reply:* https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NOS-Pentel-Quicker-Clicker-Lead-Pencil-0-5-mm-PD345BP-SEALED-Blue-/203793257469?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NOS-Pentel-Quicker-Clicker-Lead-Pencil-0-5-mm-PD345BP-SEALED-Blue-/203793257469?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:38:36

*Thread Reply:* So far not a bad price but you know how that goes

2022-01-22 18:41:58

*Thread Reply:* Yeah those look nice

2022-01-22 18:47:03

*Thread Reply:* I'm mostly looking at the black body white knock broad flat clip. A little beat up tho

2022-01-22 18:49:32

*Thread Reply:* I think you have one of them?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:50:55

*Thread Reply:* Yeah PD325

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:52:09

*Thread Reply:* Quicker Clicker Jr

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:52:15

*Thread Reply:* I only have the black one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:52:32

*Thread Reply:* I'd offer a PD505 right now for the other colors.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:52:44

*Thread Reply:* In mint that is

2022-01-22 18:53:43

*Thread Reply:* which catalog are they in?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:54:14

*Thread Reply:* None that we are aware of

2022-01-22 18:54:19

*Thread Reply:* oh

2022-01-22 18:54:41

*Thread Reply:* what’s their time frame?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:55:24

*Thread Reply:* 96ish I believe

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:56:10

*Thread Reply:* It was an “economical version of America’s #1 selling automatic pencil”

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:56:23

*Thread Reply:* Just like the PD335 was the eco version in 1979

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:56:51

*Thread Reply:* They learned with the second round of the eco version to not do the clip in plastic

2022-01-22 18:57:47

*Thread Reply:* cool, do you have pics of the other colors? I’m googling but not seeing much other than black.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:58:25

*Thread Reply:* I only have a pic of the purple one that's in Ron’s collection.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 18:59:49

*Thread Reply:*

2022-01-22 19:03:00

*Thread Reply:* Oh yeah, that is sweet. That’s not a color I’ve seen them use

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:03:57

*Thread Reply:* Nope. And I'd love to have it

2022-01-22 19:04:27

*Thread Reply:* where was it available?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:04:48

*Thread Reply:* USA

2022-01-22 19:04:51

*Thread Reply:* Was it something special some region put out?

2022-01-22 19:04:53

*Thread Reply:* ah

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:05:11

*Thread Reply:* Could get them at Walmart and all drug stores

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:05:14

*Thread Reply:* In the 90s

2022-01-22 19:05:40

*Thread Reply:* Seems like they shouldn’t be hard to find?

2022-01-22 19:06:05

*Thread Reply:* Not that I’ve ever tried.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:07:09

*Thread Reply:* They must have only had them for a short time. Maybe just a year or two.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:07:17

*Thread Reply:* Since they're are so few out there

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:07:26

*Thread Reply:* They were cheap so they probably all got used and abused

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:08:10

*Thread Reply:* The regular PD345s were more cherished since they were priced higher and in stationary and book stores they were in glass/acrylic cases.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:08:37

*Thread Reply:* Quicker Clicker Jrs we're like Bics in people’s minds I suppose

2022-01-22 19:08:42

*Thread Reply:* makes sense

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:10:11

*Thread Reply:* But that's all assumptions

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:55:40

Last week I received 2 "PS513" pencils that I ordered. One is correct, but the other has the "wrong" tip. The photo is (top to bottom) ML5, PS513, PS513 (with "wrong" tip).

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:58:19

*Thread Reply:* Given the age and the old logo I think that the middle one has the wrong tip. I don't have a model number for that one. I have several though.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:58:48

*Thread Reply:* After finding out about the ML51 and the Black 5 and their relation to the PS535, I am wondering if there is another 0.3mm pencil that was out there. The reason I am wondering this is, the "wrong" tip is the same style as on the ML5, and I don't know of any other 0.3mm pencils that use this tip, so I don't know where it would come from.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 19:59:47

*Thread Reply:* The middle one is the PS513 as shown in the catalogs. It is always shown paired up with the PS535, since they are both Sliding Sleeves.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:01:42

*Thread Reply:* Another thing I never realized, because it is always paired with the PS535, is that the PS513 is the same form factor as the ML5.

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:01:49

*Thread Reply:* And the Hi Black.

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:04:49

*Thread Reply:* Well, I have a Hi Black which is the same form factor as the S55 with a long ridged grip. I suspect that the HI Black models were like the Popn'Pop models of some pencils. Meaning that they are the same but branded a bit differently.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:07:45

*Thread Reply:* Could you send me a photo of that, so I can put it in the book?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:08:15

*Thread Reply:* Unfortunately, they are not in any known catalogs.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:08:54

*Thread Reply:* I will send a photo of the Hi Black S55

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:09:29

*Thread Reply:* The only "Executive" 0.3mm pencils that I know of, off-hand, are the PS513 and the SV/SG33.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:10:04

*Thread Reply:* Does your Hi Black have a price sticker?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:17:11

*Thread Reply:* Mechanical Pencil Museum has both of these as well. http://mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com/2013/05/pentel-ps513.html

mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:31:50

*Thread Reply:* It has a date code of 780612.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:40:49

*Thread Reply:* My ML5 version has a date code of 780522

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:41:06

*Thread Reply:* With the same price sticker

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:43:02

*Thread Reply:* This pencil has the flattened top on the clip which is consistent with the with the Post 1970 S5x models. There was a HI-Black lead marketed by Pentel. I is still available in the 1979US and 1980US catalogs but not 1982_US.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 20:46:47

*Thread Reply:* Clearly there is a sub-history for Pentel lead which needs to be studied also.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:06:50

*Thread Reply:* Oh wow—the Hi Black pictured above is different from the one I have (and the ones I've seen on YAJ the past few months). Mine is an ML51 body, but the one shown here does indeed look to be an S55 given the ring joint in the middle

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:28:12

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified Could you take a photo of yours and post it here?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:45:19

*Thread Reply:* Yes indeed, please hold

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:47:03

*Thread Reply:* I also have 2 (soon to be 3) versions of the "Pentel 3" with ML51-style tip (as opposed to the PS513 tip)—black, red, and blue

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:47:29

*Thread Reply:* I think the Pentel 3 with ML51-style tip came first, but I cannot confirm that with absolute certainty

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:47:53

*Thread Reply:* and I agree the only other executive-style 0.3 from Pentel is the SG33

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:48:17

*Thread Reply:* So in total, SG33, PS513, and whatever the Pentel 3 ML51-style is called

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:55:33

*Thread Reply:* https://pearsonified.com/images/pencils/pentel-hi-black-ml51-1.jpg https://pearsonified.com/images/pencils/pentel-hi-black-ml51-2.jpg

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:56:03

*Thread Reply:* REALLY love the ML51 body—it gets the details right and is a pleasure to use

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:56:55

*Thread Reply:* To me, that middle joint is significantly more refined than the odd juncture of the P555 or the weird, uneven transition of the S55 (due to the ridges in the grip and no joint)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 09:57:16

*Thread Reply:* And the one @Knocktype11 presented appears to be an adaptation of the PS535 body

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:30:20

*Thread Reply:* Your picture is of the ML5 version that I have.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:33:03

*Thread Reply:* And looking now at the ML51 pictures, it is based on the ML5, not the PS535

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:34:25

*Thread Reply:* I (hopefully) have an ML51 and the Black 5 pencils on order, and can see what is what when they are all side-by-side.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:51:31

*Thread Reply:* I think you're mistaken—here's an ML51 and my Hi•Black together:

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:51:34

*Thread Reply:* https://pearsonified.com/images/pencils/pentel-hi-black-and-ml51.jpg

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:51:41

*Thread Reply:* Clearly the same pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 10:53:01

*Thread Reply:* As far as I can tell, the only distinction between the ML5 and ML51 is the barrel—the 5 is metal but the 51 is plastic

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:23:15

*Thread Reply:* Yes, that silver step-down ring (not the printed one) is distinctive of the ML5 and it's variants (ML51, PS705)

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:01:22

*Thread Reply:* Are you sure your ML51 has a plastic top? I was just looking at mine and it is definitely metal. It tinks when removed and tapped. It tinks in exactly the way that plastic does not.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:03:35

*Thread Reply:* I just got to thinking about the Pentel 3 above. On @George Fox's blog (http://mysupplyroom.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-smaller-pentel.html), he says that the second pencil is an ML7. I have asked him for confirmation that it is a 0.7mm, but it started me thinking about this pencil. Could it be an ML3?

mysupplyroom.blogspot.com
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:10:40

*Thread Reply:* Good point about the barrels—they could be metal, but they are black. I guess my point, which was poorly made, is that ML5 = silver barrel and ML51 = black barrel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:11:42

*Thread Reply:* I always assumed the red-gripped model—which came in a variety of colors—was simply the ML5

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:11:47

*Thread Reply:* It's the middle axis size

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:12:03

*Thread Reply:* Versus the tiniest "Pentel 5" size, which I think you said was a P505 or something like htat

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:24:26

*Thread Reply:* Well, the last digit has (almost) always been the lead size, so if George's ML7 is a 0.7mm, then the 0.3mm Fixed tip in the ML5 Form Factor, could possibly be an ML3.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:25:27

*Thread Reply:* In the ML5 I have 2 Blue, 2 Red, 1 Pink, 2 Black and the Hi Black

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:25:58

*Thread Reply:* My ML51 is either on it's way to or sitting at the ZenMarket warehouse.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:27:06

*Thread Reply:* Ah, I see what you mean

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:34:16

*Thread Reply:* The ML3 is a good working number. I use S551 for the Black 5 model number. This seems okay until a better number is found/discovered. The Sterling Sliding Sleeve (A810) has a black model which is A811.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 22:41:36

Here is the latest version of the Pentel Pencils ID Book. I would like to reserve this thread for only corrections, additional pencils that belong up to 1982 (US 1982 Catalog) or better images.

Thanks, Jimmy

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 23:25:23

*Thread Reply:* The Sharp 9 has the model number S19.

✅ Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 23:26:44

*Thread Reply:* The ML5 dates from the 60's. I have some with the old logo.

✅ Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 23:32:18

*Thread Reply:* The P505 dates back to to 60's The Sharp5 CPA is the S30x (Pentel 11 Sharp 11)

✅ Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-22 23:32:55

*Thread Reply:* Fantastic work on this Jimmy! I have more pictures that I owe you.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-22 23:56:46

*Thread Reply:* You said the Sharp5 CPA is an S30x, and I realized that I had an S305 somewhere. New picture taken. It is a newer one from the early-70's, since it has the P200 style clip, with nothing on the clip, just printed on the sides.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-23 17:00:01

*Thread Reply:* There is also a Pentel 101 which is a .9mm pencil and is considered to be the first knock type pencil produced by Pentel.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-23 00:29:03

Does someone have a PG303 that can get me a good photo on white background?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 08:29:52

Do we know anyone in Norway?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 11:18:43

Just received a few items today.

🙌 Pearsonified
❤️ sideKnocks (atxalais)
👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:08:02

*Thread Reply:* I got this in today

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:21:14

*Thread Reply:* I picked mine up off Etsy. Where did you get yours?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:25:03

*Thread Reply:* eBay

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:25:45

*Thread Reply:* I picked mine up, just because of the label. I already have half a dozen ML5s in various colors.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:25:48

*Thread Reply:* $20

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:25:55

*Thread Reply:* Yeah same

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:26:23

*Thread Reply:* Mine was $29 after shipping

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:26:39

*Thread Reply:* $4.75 shipping

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:26:43

*Thread Reply:* For mine

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 11:22:33

That Excalibur set is gorgeous!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 11:44:43

Who won the green Technoclic? Someone outbid me by $1 😔

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 11:46:44

I did.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 11:47:24

Long story but I bought her entire lot

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:02:31

"Oh no! They killed Kenny!"

______!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:03:16

You are the king of the Clickers, so that Technoclic has found its rightful home 👍

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:04:08

I'll sell you one once I get the lot in.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:08:31

Bruh, you gotta have that green! I was only in on the auction because the same pencil would be at least 9000¥ on YAJ

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:08:48

*Thread Reply:* I bought 8 of them

😆 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:13:49

*Thread Reply:* Hahahahahahah

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:14:08

*Thread Reply:* I did notice they had a bunch of stock and were basically doing the same listing over and over; glad you nipped that nonsense in the bud

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:16:57

*Thread Reply:* Exactly.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:17:28

*Thread Reply:* She bought some furniture out of a basement and found 9 of them.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:18:52

*Thread Reply:* That's amazing

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:19:10

*Thread Reply:* Guess I'll go raid some basements and hope for the best

2022-01-25 03:36:49

*Thread Reply:* Man great work. I'm in for one if you want to offload the spares (only have a black). We're going to need to do a bulk-buy/swap.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 04:49:27

*Thread Reply:* You got it dude

2022-01-26 22:57:43

*Thread Reply:* 😉

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:24:35

Does anyone have any of the PS35, PS45 or PS65 that were manufactured in the 70's? All of mine were made in '84 & '85 according to the date codes.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-24 15:11:16

*Thread Reply:* PS35 - 781023 - Al PS35 - 810127 - Al PS45 - 820419 - Al PS45 - 830823 - plastic PS45 - nodate - plastic PS45 - 791120 - Al PS45 - 791012 - Al PS45 - 820809 - Al PS65 - 820112 - plastic P575 - 770628 - Al P575 - 770314 - Al

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:35:08

Hmmm, I'll have to check mine this afternoon

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 12:40:13

I would like to see if there are any differences, such as the lead reservoir? Mine are the black plastic, but all of my other similar pencils (P575 Crew, Rush on Goal, P595 Pop'npop), that were manufactured in the 70's, have the grey metal (aluminum?) reservoir.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:04:48

Given how few ROLLY models have appeared in the past 8 months, I suspect this will garner a fairly high price:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f1033271467

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:05:27

*Thread Reply:* Yea I have that one starred just to observe the final price

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:05:45

*Thread Reply:* Shame about the smudged ".5" on the blue cap

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 07:25:22

*Thread Reply:* Sold for $34.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:50:14

*Thread Reply:* 100¥ over my bid

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:50:19

*Thread Reply:* same for the Mitsubishi lot

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:05:20

I have the black but not the blue 😒

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:09:52

I will check these when I get a chance.  If I’m recalling correctly, the P225 had a date code of 1981, so I would think the others would be the same or close to that.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:44:19

*Thread Reply:* The Sharplet (P15) only shows up in the 1982 Catalog. It used a weird ZPE-2 eraser.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:45:06

*Thread Reply:* What is printed on the Sharplet-2

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-24 22:02:55

*Thread Reply:* The cap on the blue PS45 is different from the others I have seen.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 14:27:34

Nice that you have the matching Rolling Writers.

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-01-24 15:25:37

Came that way.  Salesman’s sample.  All 1981.  Two out of the three had metal reservoirs

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 16:35:05

Got the usual suspects Rush on Goals today.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 16:58:00

4 down, 6 to go

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 16:59:40

*Thread Reply:* Have my entire life to find them.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 20:41:38

*Thread Reply:* I still need 3 of them

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 08:39:19

*Thread Reply:* Could you let me know what the date codes on the Reservoir are?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:10:14

*Thread Reply:*

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:47:09

*Thread Reply:* Thanks

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:48:55

*Thread Reply:* what date does that read?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:50:46

*Thread Reply:* Your RoGs?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:51:31

*Thread Reply:* yes

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:51:44

*Thread Reply:* All comparable to mine for those colors. All 1979. I have one RoG that is from 1981

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:52:08

*Thread Reply:* does the 0327 mean march 27?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:52:18

*Thread Reply:* Format is yymmdd

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:52:20

*Thread Reply:* Yes

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:52:28

*Thread Reply:* thanks

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 11:52:30

*Thread Reply:* So the top one is March 27 1979

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 12:53:31

*Thread Reply:* Here is the spreadsheet I have with this style pencil (mine, yours, Knocktype11 and Ron Knapp)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 20:40:48

Not sure if you saw Dave's Mechanical Pencil Instagram post today. https://www.instagram.com/p/CZHdeWBvLDN/

Instagram
} d.m.p.insta
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 20:46:26

*Thread Reply:* I'm not on Instagram but I saw this photo today on Reddit

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-24 20:48:25

*Thread Reply:* I didn't realize that was DMP

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 15:00:56

Has anyone ever heard of the PG5005 Graph EX? From the Japanese Wiki Pentel article: Graph EX (PG5005) A variation of the highest priced pencil 0.5 in the drafting series released in 1985. It features a knurled jagged grip and a 4mm pipe.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-25 15:48:51

What are some other pencils from this 1985 drafting series?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-25 15:49:19

PG30X, Graphlets, Graph1000 for Pro, GraphGear...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-25 15:49:27

And the Accugraphs were all released in the 70s

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-25 15:49:33

so not sure what series this even refers to

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 20:01:04

Why has nobody come across any pics of this PG5005? Hmmm… could be a case of Wiki mischief?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 20:01:57

That is what I suspect as well, but I figured that it could not hurt to ask here.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 20:04:05

There are some very skilled customizers out there. There's this Korean who has basically recreated the MEC’s sleeve and is now trying to clone the Tombow Variable.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 20:04:30

I am tempted by the MEC Clone

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-25 20:04:52

Such a person could easily take that 5005 description and make a facsimile… an interpretation if you will.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-26 07:59:32

Well, there you go… “Does the Pentel Graph PG5005 exist?”

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-26 08:08:03

*Thread Reply:* That was easy. Nice.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-26 14:58:19

I just loaded a new French 2022 catalog to the dropbox (#Pentel Topic), as well as my Pentel Pencil Catalog spreadsheet that has been updated to the latest catalogs.

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-26 20:09:00

*Thread Reply:* They're still using an old picture for the PD347. I don't quite get how they keep doing that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 09:30:33

*Thread Reply:* Last year Pentel of America announced that the PD345 (current model) was rated #1 by yourbestdigs.com BUT they used a photo of the vintage model. WTH Pentel?

😂 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 09:32:18

*Thread Reply:* oh that rhymed.

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-01-27 15:06:17

*Thread Reply:* ...as he grabs the nearest guitar and starts singing possible musical lyrics...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 17:25:38

*Thread Reply:* That sounds like fun.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-26 17:04:02

I'm going to write a plug-in to automatically hide these bastards from my search results.

That’ll eliminate 75% of the results.

😂 Heath, Knocktype11, Dry, Ƶ, Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
2022-01-26 23:37:32

@Kiwi-d has joined the channel

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 14:07:31

I am pissed at Buyee. There are 4 items I want to purchase off Mercari, but none of them are listed on Buyee. An SG7, SG15 & PD1065F, plus a LE Kerry.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 14:09:43

*Thread Reply:* Try remambo

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 14:10:04

*Thread Reply:* https://www.remambo.jp

Remambo
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 14:11:49

*Thread Reply:* Yeah... just what I need, a FOURTH proxy service.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 14:11:57

*Thread Reply:* I hear that

2022-01-28 07:26:42

*Thread Reply:* Hi everyone, so with buyee, they don't list all mercari products immediately. Products sold on mercari will show up on buyee after three days the listing was created. I hope this helps.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 07:28:38

*Thread Reply:* ^^. Yup

Just enough time for me to have missed the dark orange PD1065 with the orange cap.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-27 14:08:39

And right now, the other Forwarder (https://neokyo.com/) has Mercari turned off. And they list them.

Neokyo
2022-01-27 17:54:54

*Thread Reply:* First world problems 🙂

2022-01-27 17:56:31

*Thread Reply:* Down here, USPS stopped delivering months ago due to COVID so can't buy hardly anything. Annoying thing is though it is a one-way halt. I can post you a parcel because NZ Post still delivers to USA, but US Post won't deliver to NZ

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:53:44

*Thread Reply:* The solution is to NOT look at Mercari directly

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:53:55

*Thread Reply:* If you use Buyee, you'll be pissed by what is "only available in Japan"

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:54:13

*Thread Reply:* In my case, at least 85% of the pencils I actually want to buy on Mercari are not available to me

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:54:37

*Thread Reply:* I'm not sure what the distinction is there, either. Like, why isnt' everything available to Buyee customers? Makes no sense

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:55:15

*Thread Reply:* But again, I don't look directly at Mercari's listings—and I browse through Buyee instead—because it's annoying to continually get frustrated over not being able to get what you want

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:57:49

*Thread Reply:* I got a reply from Neokyo about their Mercari purchasing. You can still copy the link from Mercari and put in a buy request, so I did that for the 2 items that I wanted that are still available.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:58:13

*Thread Reply:* Can you shop YAJ with Neokyo?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:58:28

*Thread Reply:* Now, I have to wait to see if they can buy them before someone else does.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:59:07

*Thread Reply:* Yes, Yahoo Auctions, Rakuten, Amazon Japan and others.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:59:32

*Thread Reply:* Direct. Others you can do a Buy Request with the URL.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 10:00:19

*Thread Reply:* Sweet, I might give them a shot since Buyee has lost my interest

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 08:10:09

Has anyone ever seen this pencil before? https://jp.mercari.com/item/m31824617418

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 08:10:34

Pentel 850A?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 08:11:16

The person selling it is REALLY Proud of it. ¥31000

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-28 10:43:53

*Thread Reply:* The 850 is not super uncommon. The fact that the it is white-ish with the "A" color code puts it in the early 60s by my best guess. That is way more than I am interested in paying.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-28 11:02:32

*Thread Reply:* The description is interesting. It references a product catalog for 1977. There may be some bits being dropped.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 11:04:35

*Thread Reply:* I noticed the 77 catalog mention as well.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-28 11:26:52

*Thread Reply:* There are some things that are a little off. The clip is a little weird for that era. They are not slip-ons on the 850s I have. The clip is attached to the metal band around the button. The pictures show very selective views.

I'm having difficulty saving the images from this one.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:41:15

I've seen pencils like htat before, and some Mercari sellers just put pie-in-the-sky numbers out there for rare pieces (even if they're plastic pieces of crap)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:51:19

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g1033262102 Snagged this lot with at least 2 notable pencils: the Pentel Clicker and Uni0.5

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:51:28

I now have that Uni0.5 in black, burgundy, and blue

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:51:43

Also nice to get a Tombow Capper finally

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:52:03

Look at you with the PD335! 🤗

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:52:25

I don't have any with that cliip style yet, and I like this smoky translucent color

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:53:59

It's this color

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:56:51

Purple? Let's go!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:57:08

buncha Fenders?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:57:37

Buncha fenders and others and some I've built.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-28 09:57:52

loving the collors

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:21:35

I wonder what would happen if I ordered this @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)

https://www.qdanito.com/set-of-3-pentel-p205p207p209-sky-blue-sharp-mechanical-pencils-p-19539.htm

qdanito.com
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:23:47

Not heard of this site before.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:24:18

Isn't that your photo?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:24:21

They apparently got the pencils cheaper than I can. I have to charge more than that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:24:38

Yes, now that you mention it, it is my photo.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:24:53

I think my money would disappear

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:29:14

Here is one of @Ron Knapp's photos. https://www.qdanito.com/pentel-pf335-05mm-automatic-mechanical-pencil-for-filmnewsliding-sleeve-p-273784.htm

qdanito.com
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:29:17

I've also been seeing more and more postings on YJP with @Ron Knapp ‘s product photos.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:29:23

Lol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:29:41

And I saw at least one of Andrey543's photos.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-28 20:29:50

I noticed that too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-29 08:29:02

Is Ron Knapp Bajaron on eBay?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 08:29:09

Yes

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-29 08:29:12

pretty sure his Tradios are the cheapest in the world

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 08:29:21

He's a swell guy.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:27:50

This is the most ridiculous pencil I have ever bought. I love it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:39:12

*Thread Reply:* YOU bought ShowerMan!!!!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:39:17

*Thread Reply:* You are my hero!

🙌 Kiwi-d
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:41:28

*Thread Reply:* That's the PQ10. The PQ11 is a PD355 that comes in pink, orange, and green.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:45:12

*Thread Reply:* Showerman is a mystery that may never be solved. The eraser is yellow-pink.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:47:04

*Thread Reply:* Person’s was a clothing company. What that has to do with a Shower Man is beyond me.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:52:14

*Thread Reply:* Is the PQ11 Showerman also?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:53:08

*Thread Reply:* The rubber grip gives me some heartburn.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:53:44

*Thread Reply:* It doesn't have the text Showerman but he's there staring at me every time I come across that pencil.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:53:59

*Thread Reply:*

🤣 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 19:58:38

*Thread Reply:* Subtle. So is he made out of a shower?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 20:03:13

*Thread Reply:* I'm afraid so

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 20:03:42

*Thread Reply:* I've tried to figure out if it was just a bad translation but I think he's actually a shower man.

2022-01-30 04:48:00

*Thread Reply:* What an odd bit!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 15:50:33

*Thread Reply:* This PQ10 is the same pencil as the Gomdale QE505

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 21:38:55

*Thread Reply:* These are fantastic pictures!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 22:13:27

*Thread Reply:* Thanks! Just need a tripod and plenty of natural light :-)

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-01-29 22:35:57

*Thread Reply:* The composition is great. How do you get everything in focus out to the edges?

This is drifting into #general territory I realize.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 23:10:57

*Thread Reply:* You get more control if you use an interchangeable lens camera. On my micro4/3 Olympus, I set the mode to aperture priority and select f11 for sharp focus across the frame. I use the EVF to check focus too.

2022-01-30 04:41:28

*Thread Reply:* Yes nice and crisp. Are you using craft foam for the backdrop?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 05:17:53

*Thread Reply:* Well spotted. I got these for a side project but they come in handy as a clean neutral background too.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-29 21:22:57

Took a pic of my Smash - latest obsession: trying to make custom matches for the grip pads to the color of the text markings…

Clutch Situation ([email protected])
2022-01-30 07:34:57

@Clutch Situation has joined the channel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 08:42:34

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s1034407991 👀

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 08:43:37

One of the most comprehensive Pentel lots I've seen. The ROLLY, the PC125, the blue-gripped Pentel 5, and the FFF are tough to beat

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 08:44:20

Throw in a black Sharplet 500, a couple of Sharplet 300s, a Technica X, that old burgundy drafting pencil from teh 1960s...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 08:44:36

blue P555

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 08:48:22

That 555 is why I was watching it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 08:48:50

But I just realized I already have one. So have at it my fren.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 09:00:28

I wish I could—I already have pretty much all of these

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 09:01:01

I need the white sharplet with black trim, the technica ex, the burgundy drafting pencil, and the 0.3 and 0.5 on the far right

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 09:33:48

Something seems off about the 0.5 here—isn't there supposed to be black paint in the etched grooves?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 20:02:31

*Thread Reply:* Only the 0.3 had its grid inked in. The 0.5 was always bare. The blurry photos are not very confidence inspiring… the 0.3 judging from the shallow grid seems to be from the late period.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-30 20:58:59

*Thread Reply:* Thank you for the insight!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 17:29:28

When did the PD345/7/9 add the rubber grip? It looks like it was between 1997 and 2000.

2022-01-30 21:37:30

*Thread Reply:* Based on my notes, which @sideKnocks (atxalais) should verify, they stopped in 1999, with 2000 being the first year of the grips.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 06:02:08

*Thread Reply:* I don't have any proof besides the 2000 catalog featuring the rubber grips but my memory has them out my first year of university. Fall 1999.

Too bad we can't track down a 1999 catalog. The 2000 catalog doesn't mention anything about “featuring a new grip…” or anything. Maybe the 1999 catalog does.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 17:29:44

Based on the catalogs.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 17:34:06

It also looks like they merged the PD340T into the PD340 at that time.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-30 21:28:57

Here is the latest Pentel ID Book cataloging items up to the 1997 International Catalog. Please look at this and see if there is anything that should be added (not in a catalog for example), or any notes that should be added to an entry.

2022-01-31 02:03:43

New listing up for the range of pd335 popnpops with coloured clips on yahoojp... https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1034732296 Bit steep as a starting price.

ヤフオク!
2022-01-31 02:20:58

*Thread Reply:* Note the different stickers too

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 07:08:28

*Thread Reply:* These have been listed a lot lately. Some even listed at ¥35,100.

If I needed these I'd grab them off of Yamauchiya.

2022-01-31 07:17:40

*Thread Reply:* and they have more in stock again for about $10 each

2022-02-03 03:23:45

*Thread Reply:* Ok thanks guys. I gotta stop overpaying.

2022-02-03 04:18:57

*Thread Reply:* So I've done a quick google and yamauchiya leads me to a Brazilian supermarket, sushi sites and a sake bar. What am I missing here?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 05:42:22

*Thread Reply:* All three of those sound good to me (:

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 05:42:26

*Thread Reply:* https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1345.html?name=Pentel

山内屋商店 - 会津
2022-02-04 16:34:18

*Thread Reply:* Cheers. Have placed an order. When they arrive (if I've done it right) I'll have 3 sets of popnpop pd335s.

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 16:41:43

*Thread Reply:* Dayum

2022-02-04 16:48:07

*Thread Reply:* I'm hoping my daughter will like them. She'll have the coolest mechanical pencils in her school... that is if they still use pencils at school? lol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 17:08:03

*Thread Reply:* They may not let her through the doors with a pencil

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 08:49:17

Just received my Pentel Black 5 “S551” this morning. It has been held up in customs for about a week

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 08:49:43

*Thread Reply:* looks flawless

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 08:58:54

*Thread Reply:* A couple of minor rub spots on the back, but other than that, it looks great.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 08:59:07

*Thread Reply:* I noticed that the clip does not say anything on this one.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:00:33

*Thread Reply:* Fantastic—I have a couple variants of this pencil; I'll have to see if I have this particular model

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:00:48

*Thread Reply:* I always assumed Japanese sellers simply replaced broken tips with the S55 tips on pencils like these

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:04:11

*Thread Reply:* That was always my assumption as well, until I was doing the Pentel ID Book and found that the 1970 Japanese One-Sheet showed this pencil. I had assumed that it was a PS535 until I noticed the tip in the drawing was a fixed tip.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:04:40

*Thread Reply:* I do have an SG75 that has an PS65 tip.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:09:08

*Thread Reply:* SG75 = gold with black stripes?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:13:11

*Thread Reply:* I bought two SG75 a couple of weeks ago.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:14:05

*Thread Reply:* Waaaat, how?!?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:14:14

*Thread Reply:* (I've never seen any for sale)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:16:54

*Thread Reply:* I bought the following pieces: • https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-926033547-lapiz-portamina-pentel-de-coleccion-JM#position=14&searchlayout=mosaic&type=item&trackingid=91ac0b05-c9e5-4598-9d8f-ff26cbf04e1e|https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-926033547-lapiz-portamina-pentel-de-coleccion-JM#position=14&searchlayout=m[…]c9e5-4598-9d8f-ff26cbf04e1ehttps://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-861526237-lapiz-mecanico-o-porta-mina-pentel-dorado-minas-JM#position=17&searchlayout=mosaic&type=item&trackingid=cdfd14b4-5ca2-4938-a433-70e4b4e48fa5|https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-861526237-lapiz-mecanico-o-porta-mina-pentel-dorado-minas-JM#position=17&searchla[…]938-a433-70e4b4e48fa5https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-926032967-lapiz-portamina-pentel-de-coleccion-JM#position=13&searchlayout=mosaic&type=item&trackingid=049aea49-969c-4cb2-bbb8-19a533b33a23|https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-926032967-lapiz-portamina-pentel-de-coleccion-JM#position=13&searchlayout=m[…]969c-4cb2-bbb8-19a533b33a23

articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar
articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar
articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:17:51

*Thread Reply:* I overpaid a bit for the 3 items but we all do it 😉

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:20:52

*Thread Reply:* I'm confused as hell

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:21:00

*Thread Reply:* Spanish-language stuff through a Japanese proxy?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:21:19

*Thread Reply:* Or perhaps my real question is: which buying service did you use, and which country are you shopping?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:22:07

*Thread Reply:* I used a proxy in Argentina called Pampa

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:22:17

*Thread Reply:* we'll see how well it goes. Never used them before

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:22:28

*Thread Reply:* sometimes you need a new adventure

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:23:52

*Thread Reply:* (sorry we hijacked your thread, Jimmy, lol)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:32:24

*Thread Reply:* Have you already closed out your order with Pampa?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:33:36

*Thread Reply:* yes. Just got my fedex tracking number today

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:35:10

*Thread Reply:* I saw this and thought about it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:35:11

*Thread Reply:* https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-864667329-juego-pentel-excalibur-lapiz-mecanico-y-roller-JM#position=9&searchlayout=grid&type=item&trackingid=09ee18c7-f048-4e5d-b9fe-5daeb0afe969|https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-864667329-juego-pentel-excalibur-lapiz-mecanico-y-roller-JM#position=9&searchlay[…]4e5d-b9fe-5daeb0afe969

articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:36:36

*Thread Reply:* Yea I almost grabbed that one too but I didn't want to spend too much and find out I was duped

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:39:53

*Thread Reply:* That is the only item I see that I would want in the Mechanical Pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:41:31

*Thread Reply:* Back to the original thread, the pencil was held up in customs because I had to send in a Toxic Substance Control Act (TSCA) Certification. Come on guys, it is a PENCIL.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:42:10

*Thread Reply:* Where did you buy it from?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:42:23

*Thread Reply:* California? Lol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:42:40

*Thread Reply:* Japan

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:42:58

*Thread Reply:* Just a single pencil was shipped?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:43:29

*Thread Reply:* Yes

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:44:01

*Thread Reply:* I have never had this happen even with dozens of packages from Japan.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:45:39

*Thread Reply:* Seems like things may be changing. Pearson had an import fee recently

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:46:08

*Thread Reply:* Super cool, I ddint' know other avenues existed for obtaining unobtanium

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:47:30

*Thread Reply:* Yeah. I'm actually a shareholder in Mercado Libre. Been waiting for something good. Too bad I had to use a proxy.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:57:21

*Thread Reply:* Well, I thought I would try PampaDirect.com and order the Excalibur set. We will see.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 09:57:45

*Thread Reply:* I saw this same set elsewhere for $200+

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:00:17

*Thread Reply:* Yeah that's who I used. Super cool guy I got connected with.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:00:25

*Thread Reply:* Lucas

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:01:08

*Thread Reply:* Very manual process.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:04:55

*Thread Reply:* Yes. Nowhere near as smooth as some of the Japanese Proxies

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:05:08

*Thread Reply:* But, if it works, that is fine with me.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:06:00

*Thread Reply:* What did they charge you per order? I could not find that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:07:13

*Thread Reply:* I paid like 130 for all 3 plus shipping to them and then shipping to me in Texas

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 10:07:22

*Thread Reply:* let me find the breakdown

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 13:29:58

What model is this?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:05:14

holy smokes! Dunno what that is, but it looks like one of those pencils they only made for a year or two

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:05:34

I'd be absurdly proud of that one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:06:06

I have the packaging it came in. Will take a photo when I can.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:06:16

Was that from Argentina as well?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:06:30

No it was either Mercari or YJP

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:06:42

I'll be damned. I scour both daily but missed that one somehow

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:07:01

*Thread Reply:* You were busy gaming

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:08:13

*Thread Reply:* lol, not a chance. 9:10am every day = browse the latest drops on Mercari

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:13:15

Well FUG! I saw this one but never clicked through, thinking it was yet another excalibur-style 5 listed for 1000¥ more than it shoudl be

🎮 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:13:24

(There have been many similar listings over the past 9 months)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:24:49

I think I saw that as well, but did not recognize it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:26:10

Google Translate says, below the Pentel line, "Middle Five", then "Deluxe" something that it cannot read due to the glare.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:27:05

Bottlom lines say "There is a practical new [drug]"-glare. "/ design instruction manual inside."

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 14:29:55

*Thread Reply:*

🙌 Pearsonified
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 16:30:56

*Thread Reply:* Lotta Japanese sellers use the term "middle 5" to refer to the middle axis size

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-01-31 16:31:16

*Thread Reply:* Seems to be the colloquial reference for all executive-style variants of this size

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:16:12

*Thread Reply:* I found one of these on Mercari and have put in a purchase request for it. It has the case, but not that tag.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:57:12

*Thread Reply:* Awesome! It's a great piece.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 18:16:25

*Thread Reply:* Do you have a photo?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 18:16:45

*Thread Reply:* I look forward to you identifying the model number for us.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 22:59:18

*Thread Reply:* Here is the auction. The order has not gone through yet, but hopefully by tomorrow. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m40957165697

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 06:07:58

*Thread Reply:* How did you end up buying this before it hit Buyee?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 08:06:53

*Thread Reply:* I bought it via Neokyo.com

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 08:16:18

*Thread Reply:* Ahh great. I have an account with them just in case but haven't used them yet. Will be good to hear how well they work out for you.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 10:54:02

*Thread Reply:* They worked fine the first time I used them. This will be a larger order, and my first Mercado order with them.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 22:27:49

*Thread Reply:* Have you opened this pencil up to see if it has a date code?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 07:51:19

*Thread Reply:* I have. No date code.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 07:51:56

*Thread Reply:* But I gotta say that this is probably my favorite piece right now.

🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 00:50:20

*Thread Reply:* Another one of these has shown up https://jp.mercari.com/item/m98231468030

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:56:13

Real problems. Do I take the two on the right out of their packaging so that they can go into the 200 cases with their cousins or do I leave them as is?

I should have bought two sets.

Life is hard.

2022-01-31 18:57:10

I am a fan of having things in hand. If you really want, you could probably find them again.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:57:28

I have a box full of packaged items I'm dying to open but I've refrained for a long long time.

2022-01-31 18:57:54

get them in your hands

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:58:39

*Thread Reply:* So you've opened your 50th anni Kerry's?

2022-01-31 18:58:56

*Thread Reply:* I haven’t started on those yet!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:59:21

*Thread Reply:* Oh. Snap who was that who recently showed they got some?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:59:33

*Thread Reply:* Oh that was Dry

2022-01-31 19:00:12

*Thread Reply:* The only thing I would be able to keep in packaging would be extras

2022-01-31 19:01:25

*Thread Reply:* I’ve also refrained from the P200's for now. So many colors

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 19:02:29

*Thread Reply:* Way cheaper than your 925s and Revolutions

2022-01-31 19:02:36

*Thread Reply:* Yes

2022-01-31 19:02:53

*Thread Reply:* I always seem to veer towards expensive

2022-02-03 03:29:24

*Thread Reply:* Yeah 2 x green and 2 x blue 50th Kerry's. Still boxed since you asked.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 20:01:26

*Thread Reply:* I purchased a full set of the 50th Kerry's, plus an additional Green as a Christmas gift for my wife.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 20:02:12

*Thread Reply:* Did she unbox it?

2022-01-31 18:58:27

You think I won’t be opening that Asuka??

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:58:53

*Thread Reply:* Hope not

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 18:58:57

*Thread Reply:* You should have purchased two

2022-01-31 18:59:23

*Thread Reply:* That’s the only one I could find available. Both on eBay were frauds

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 19:00:03

*Thread Reply:* Get a fraud and open that one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 19:00:06

*Thread Reply:* 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-01-31 19:16:28

I have them unpackaged for sale

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:25:06

If anyone is interested there is a Hi Black ML5 version on Mercari now. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m80825644456

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:28:50

Oh sweet! There's a "Pentel 5" (PS535 lookalike) ML51 on YAJ right now, too (it's mis-categorized as an antique writing instrument, bidding starts at 1500¥)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:29:11

And can you provide a good reason why the Hi Black is not an ML51?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:29:15

The body is literally identical

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:29:33

and since it's all black, that is what I consider the differentiator between ML5 and ML51

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:29:43

ML5 = plastic colored grip with aluminum barrel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:29:53

ML51 = plastic grip and plastic barrel (and I've only seen all-black)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:31:06

I don't think we ever achieved clarity here, and I don't think it makes much sense to reserve ML51 for ONLY the PS535 lookalike (especially when the Hi•Black exists)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:31:35

FWIW, I love my Hi•Black, and the OEM lead is sublime

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:33:01

No particular reason other than the Hi Black comes in both the ML5 form factor and the S55 form factor. Since we do not know the "Real" number for the Black 5, that we are calling the S551, I decided to call both of the Hi Blacks based on the "base" model number.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:33:19

The ML5 and the S55

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:33:42

I am looking for a Hi Black based on the S55 for myself.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 15:37:58

In conversation with @Knocktype11 we decided the following Silver Middle = ML5 Black Middle = ML51 Silver Large = S55 Black Large = ?S551? Logically, we decided on adding the "1" to the model number, like they did with the ML5. But when does logic have anything to do with Pentel's model numbers?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:06:31

Not sure I've ever seen a black large outside of the PS535

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:14:37

If you take a look at the latest Pentel ID Book I am putting together and posting, if you look at the Hi Black S55, you can see @Knocktype11s pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:15:21

I didn't know there were 2 versions until he posted about it, so I added to the book.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:22:05

"Not sure I've ever seen a black large outside of the PS535" See my post from 1/31 at 8:49 AM. It is the version of the PS535 with a fixed tip.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:23:12

I have that same pencil, and it's shorter than the PS535—the body is identical to the ML51, which is the basis of my entire argument

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:23:42

Ohhh not tHAT one

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:23:45

I still maintain that's not a real pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:23:57

the seller simply replaced the PS535 tip with the fixed sleeve tip

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:25:00

Once I get my ML51 pencil in, I will post pictures and some common Form Factors .

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:25:49

I have seen too many that have the fixed sleeve, plus the 1970 Japan One-Sheet shows that pencil, not the PS535. They call it the Black 5.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:26:01

Now that I know to look for them.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:26:28

and on that 1970 sheet, it's clearly got the non-joint joint versus the ring joint?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:26:36

Yes

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:26:42

(which, to me, is the easiest way to tell a PS535 and ML5 apart)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:26:47

And it clearly has the ribbed grip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:26:53

makes sense

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:27:03

I'll post pics soon, but I opened my PENTEL 3 today

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:27:05

red grip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:27:08

and it's clearly really old

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:27:16

PENTEL is written in the Dainippon style

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:27:24

Same with the clip stamp

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:27:40

super short 2mm sleeve tip is used, too, which you see on these older models

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:28:04

I found one picture of the PS513 with a red grip online. It is in the book as well

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:28:22

red grip with PS513 tip?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:29:10

Japanese high schoolers attempting to create pencils that never existed—such as the P204—have made me question everything I see

2022-02-01 23:36:32

*Thread Reply:* I hadn't actually thought about that. Deliberately making a MechFrankenPencil to try and auction it off to the unsuspecting... or even the suspecting who just can't take the chance on it being true. I'm normally a deeply suspicious and cynical person... pencils must bring out my innocent good side 🙂

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-01 16:29:22

old PENTEL 3 + PS513 tip = unique, red-gripped model

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-01 23:01:46

I just posted the latest Pentel Pencils ID Book in my Pentel Catalogs Dropbox folder, which you can find in the Topic header of the #pentel channel. I added an underscore to the front of the file name to leave it at the top. If you find any issues with what I have written, please reply in this post for the _Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2000.02.pdf version of this book. Also, if you know of any pencils that were released up to the date of the catalogs in this book, please let me know, so that they can be added. I know there are a bunch of Pencils that are not in any of the known catalogs.

2022-02-01 23:34:07

What was Rush On Goal actually about? Was it some sort of promotional thing for something? I recall an early cellphone game called that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 05:17:58

*Thread Reply:* We're not sure

https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1641431622004600

} knocktype11 (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U0214HUEA9M)
2022-02-03 19:47:04

*Thread Reply:* My early cellphone game Rush On Goal was American Football

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 08:00:28

I think all of us who would want them already has a Crew set but if anyone doesn't this seller has all 4 for sale individually.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 17:00:42

Thanks to @Kiwi-d, there is now a 1971 Excalibur brochure in the Pentel Catalog directory.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 17:16:25

*Thread Reply:* awesome! That was fun to look at

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 17:16:48

*Thread Reply:* Do you think you could have a folder in your dropbox directory for pamphlets and advertisements?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 17:17:00

*Thread Reply:* Here's a couple of Technoclic pieces....

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 17:33:39

*Thread Reply:* Done. These are in there now.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 17:34:41

*Thread Reply:* If an item has listings of Pentel pens and pencils, I will leave it in the main catalog section. If other items, they will go in there.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-02 20:26:23

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m37678722800

Wowsers.

I'll sell you mine for ¥94,000

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-03 10:20:03

Here's a great example of a where I think the seller has replaced the PS535 tip with a tip from a P205

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-03 10:20:14

In this case, the 4mm lead sleeve is a dead giveaway

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 10:59:21

The one I received has a 4mm tip

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 13:03:45

Gotta love the out of the blue email asking…

“Would you be interested in 48 x PS65’s? “

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-03 13:07:50

*Thread Reply:* Who the hell has 48 PS65s? lol

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-03 13:07:53

*Thread Reply:* I want one nice new one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 13:09:59

*Thread Reply:* Could you use 47 spares?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-03 14:16:14

*Thread Reply:* For a semi-permanent eBay listing? Perhaps.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 14:59:17

*Thread Reply:* I just bought a new one last night, along with 5 other pencils and 5 pens. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255365174673

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 15:09:56

*Thread Reply:* I absolutely love the green 45

🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 15:14:06

*Thread Reply:* That is the one PS that I am missing. These will also be the first Q45/Q525/Q565 that I will have.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 15:14:26

*Thread Reply:* And of course all of the matching pens. Plus a bonus PS45A

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 15:17:05

*Thread Reply:* I had to think about it for a little bit (a small little bit). It was expensive, but where else are you going to get all of these for a little less than $20 each.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-03 15:32:24

*Thread Reply:* Yeah that's how I would have convinced myself as well. Still much harder to hit buy for that total but you did good on that lot.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 09:58:35

*Thread Reply:* I'll be damned, what a great listing!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 10:35:17

Does anyone have a Pentel 5 double knock with hairline finish on the upper barrel?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 10:36:18

(no idea about the model # or how this pencil is referred to colloquially by the Japanese)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 11:19:20

"You cannot bid on items from this seller" 😔

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 11:19:21

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1029113915

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 22:26:05

*Thread Reply:* I believe it is a PC265. You can see it in the Pentel ID Book.

👀 Pearsonified
🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:16:57

What proxy did you use?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:17:52

Never mind, I know. Zenmarket. They refuse to do business with that seller, or actually, that seller refuses to do business with them, I believe.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:53:47

That looks like a lower end version of the PC365 Clicsharp

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:55:25

Clicsharp and Rolly are the same. The Rolly models were Japan only.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:56:52
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:57:25

I thought they were the same. Another case of differences between Japan and the rest of the world models.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 13:58:37

I still have a window open with them at the moment, if you would like me to try to get it.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:21:03

Tempting to try Neokyo just for access to a few more sellers

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:21:08

Do they ban the same Mercari sellers as Buyee?

2022-02-04 14:21:31

I thought the same and just signed up.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:21:34

If you can snag that Rolly, I will 100% buy it

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:22:32

I was purchasing things I could not get on Buyee through Neokyo.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:23:27

It takes them a day or so to get it, but I have only lost 1 item due to that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:24:34

What do you want to bid up to?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:24:40

I lost the all orange PD1065 to that with them. 😔

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:24:53

That may be the one that I got.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:04

Hold up. You got the “red” one??

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:15

No, I got an orange one

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:20

With the black cap

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:22

What color is the cap

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:37

Oh bummer. Would have been awesome if one of us got it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:50

https://neokyo.com/en/product/mercari/m16562951651

Neokyo
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:25:58

This is the one I won.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:26:56

Nice. My orange ones have the yellow sticker and my black has red sticker

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:28:05

This was the saddest message I've received in 10 years

😔 Pearsonified, Dry
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:28:47

Yes, I got one of those messages.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:28:59

On an SG15

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:30:10

I should get my SG75 this week.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:30:29

Is that the one from Argentina?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:30:35

Yep.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:30:54

I still need to find an SG65

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:31:42

I think I have an SG33.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:32:57

I have 2 SV/SG33, an SV5/SG35 on the way. I have an SG45A and the SG75 with a PS65 tip.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:33:02

Bid up to ¥3255

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:34:38

That guy who contacted me with 48 new PS65 wants 8.50 a piece.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:35:15

I ordered an extra Olympics Excalibur set to replace the SG75 tip

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:35:43

He also has red PS45s he “may” sell.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:36:17

I need that green

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:36:18

and red

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:36:32

I also need the PG45s (is it PG?)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:37:23

There is the PS series that is the same body as the Crew and Rush on Goal, then there is the SG series that is the same as the Excaliburs

🙌 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:37:41

Is this guy in Norway? I talked to him also about buying everything he has but we could not come to a price which we could agree and then he disappeared.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:41:57

*Thread Reply:* Norway guy is on eBay; I hadn't made that connection yet, but you're probably right

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:37:58

SG/Excaliburs are all metal bodies with a ring between the body and the grip.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:38:24

Yes. I tried getting him to go buy some pieces from an auction house in Norway. I think he may have bought them and is trying to sell me now.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:40:02

*Thread Reply:* I realized that I don't need that many and didn't really have the time to mess with trying to sell that many on ebay over the long term.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:40:29

*Thread Reply:* Yeah same

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:40:53

*Thread Reply:* I really wanted those lots from the auction house. Was a killer deal.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:43:22

*Thread Reply:* I already have a full set of PSx5s so the motivation was not there.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:44:58

*Thread Reply:* Any duplicates?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:45:14

*Thread Reply:* holy shit

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:45:39

*Thread Reply:* I think Japanese-only shoppers are actually at a disadvantage with these models

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:45:53

*Thread Reply:* I've seen far more PSX5 on eBay than the Japanese sites

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:46:39

*Thread Reply:* I will have a full set as of next week with an extra PS45A Black

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:47:10

*Thread Reply:* Technically, I will have an extra PS65 as well.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:47:54

*Thread Reply:* I have an extra black or two.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:05

*Thread Reply:* I have the black only, and it's imposisble to grip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:08

*Thread Reply:* love the SG35, tho

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:13

*Thread Reply:* I have a SUPER shitty SG65

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:18

*Thread Reply:* looks like someone drove over it 3 or 4 times

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:33

*Thread Reply:* need gold stripes and the other 3 SG45 colors

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:53

*Thread Reply:* but I'll have to go dumpster diving on eBay to find those 😒

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:50:59

*Thread Reply:* I look down on eBay now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:51:04

*Thread Reply:* Bigtime YAJ elitist

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:53:43

*Thread Reply:* So much more exciting to get a box in from Japan instead of Sticks, Kansas

😂 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:59:25

*Thread Reply:* Getting things from little towns is pretty fun if you like maps and wikipedia. Selling to them is also fun, but more profitable.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:01:33

*Thread Reply:* Yeah you're right. I do do a bit of research on the little towns I sell stuff too. I'm from a VERY small town.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:42:31

Yes, I am specifically referring to the turquoise SG45

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:42:40

I think there's antoher one I don't have too (I have brown)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:43:02

Brown. Blue. Green. Red.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:43:16

I...don't think the SG45 came in red

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:43:17

They are in the ID book on page 144

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:43:56

The PS45 came in Black, Red, Blue and Green.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 14:44:05

I have all but the Green, and it is on the way.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:02:14

@Pearsonified I bid ¥3255 for that pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:02:34

I won a PEL last night on Yahoo JP

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:18:16

*Thread Reply:* Yep, this is a PEL from a seller I purchased from—she doesn't know where to list her items 😂

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:18:29

*Thread Reply:* I was a little bummed that my PEL showed up with a puncture wound—I cannot remove the eraser cap 😞

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:33:23

*Thread Reply:* I've got a blue one on the way, too—just need the red now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:33:33

*Thread Reply:* I was also super impressed with the PEL—love the size, and it feels fantastic

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:41:13

*Thread Reply:* https://zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=d406259921

zenmarket.jp
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:50:01

*Thread Reply:* Oh wow—I don't think I can buy from this guy via Buyee, but that doesn't bother me because he's so overpriced anyway

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:50:42

*Thread Reply:* I respect the opportunism, but this guy and thisitemisdistributedat_random have had the same listings up at the same damn price for a year

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:51:13

*Thread Reply:* "MAybe if I relist these Ohto double knocks 68 consecutive weeks, they'll sell for my ¥12,000 asking price!"

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:51:48

*Thread Reply:* They're certain the price is [x], but the market is certain it's no higher than [y]

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:51:58

*Thread Reply:* The market is undefeated :firstplacemedal:

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:02:36

https://zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=h1033361288

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:03:02

I forgot to snipe bid on that one. Realized that when I woke up this morning.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:03:21

Glad you got it

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:04:05

What were you going to Snipe it for?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:04:19

How much?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:04:53

My bid was for ¥5000, and I won it for ¥3000

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:05:04

Like 2500. I wasn't gonna be too committed.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:05:30

I haven't tried getting too much stuff like that in the past cuz I know I get hooked and must get the whole set.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:05:48

I am EXACTLY the same way

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:05:58

It eats at me.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:06:04

THis is why I limit myself to ONLY Pentels

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:06:14

^ the key.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:06:33

I do some non Pentels but maybe 5%

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:06:38

P200's and primarily 80's and before

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:07:05

I may purchase one or two others that I like that particular version, such as the White Rotring 600

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:07:51

But, I then make myself stop on those. Not too hard, when I go back to looking at Pentels

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:18:07

I have placed a bid for this, which ends Sunday morning here.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:18:08

https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=o1035270072

zenmarket.jp
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:19:26

About 6 months ago, a seller let go of one of these, andthe final auction price was around ¥12,000

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:19:35

So this time, the seller opened with that same price

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:19:46

I just think that's a bitch move whenver I see it 😤

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:19:54

props, though—he'll get even more than that

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:21:39

You must not sell stuff. Lol.

🙌 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:22:43

It goes both ways—you can get the biggest wins in a pure auction format where you get the most people committed

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:22:57

With a ¥12,000 opener, I'd expect fewer than 5 truly interested parties

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-04 15:23:03

but maybe that is best for high end stuff, I dunno

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 21:52:04

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) is this Unknown 01?

http://mysupplyroom.blogspot.com/2018/01/new-old-pentel-pencil.html?m=1

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 18:16:02

*Thread Reply:* And just spotted another one. https://www.instagram.com/p/CZotqAZvXgi/

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 18:16:40

*Thread Reply:* On the second photo

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 18:17:27

*Thread Reply:* Along with that unknown one.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-04 22:14:34

It sure as hell looks like it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-05 16:03:42

Black 5 disassembled. This one has a date code of 780818. This may mean that the S551 and PS535 overlapped in production.

🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 16:30:28

My Black 5 (S551) is pre-Date Code (small Triangle sticker) with a metal (pre aluminum)

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-05 21:46:47

*Thread Reply:* I also have which is pretty early. Mine has the old logo below the big 5. Pre-aluminum reservoir also.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-05 16:30:39

reservoir

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 09:56:34

My snipe bid on a few Rubberdales was unsuccessful. Time to avoid browsing for a while and prepare to ship.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 15:53:46

https://www.fitoffice.co.jp/smp/item/ZA063005.html

If anyone needs an FFF you can try grabbing this.

fitoffice.co.jp
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 22:57:45

*Thread Reply:* Oh you had going with the FFF moniker! It's the ‘normal’ steel P115 :D

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-06 22:14:43

I just added an instruction sheet to the Catalogs subdirectory Ads, Instructions and Pamphlets. It is "Some Pencil Tips From Pentel". I also updated the Pentel Pencil ID Book.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 05:55:03

If anyone wants to jump on this. I'm not

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 05:55:43

It's most likely the silver plated one and not the pure silver one but who knows.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:03:54

What is the difference between the Sharplet 500 and Sharplet 501? I know the 500 is model Q545. Is the 501, the same number, just later, or is it a different model number.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:07:28

501 is Q555

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:11:55

I just found a picture that showed me that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:12:05

Do you know when these were sold?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:17:41

I can't recall but I think @Knocktype11 knows. He and I have discussed it before.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:28:59

*Thread Reply:* I am not sure about the dates. The 500 and 501 sem to differ only in the paint.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:42:28

*Thread Reply:* I love that. I have a black one.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:48:19

*Thread Reply:* I think that I have seen that these were from the 90s. It was surprising at the time since they look very 80s.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:51:19

*Thread Reply:* Pure speculation though.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-07 17:05:50

*Thread Reply:* The clip alone is worth the price of admission.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
👍 Pearsonified
2022-02-07 21:35:02

*Thread Reply:* Yea, I love the clip

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:19:43

Scratch that

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 16:19:45

https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1621628323024100

} knocktype11 (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U0214HUEA9M)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 23:10:19

Do these have a Date Code on the lead reservoir?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-07 23:16:14

*Thread Reply:* I have not figured out how to get the reservoir out of these. They have black plastic reservoirs on the inside.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-07 23:23:56

*Thread Reply:* Ahhhh, one of those. I have several pencils like that, where I cannot remove the reservoir.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-07 23:35:59

*Thread Reply:* This may be a defining characteristic of Sharplets.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 12:11:11

*Thread Reply:* 13 watchers. Dontcha hate that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 12:12:09

*Thread Reply:* Yes, but I suspect some of you.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 12:12:57

*Thread Reply:* Not I

2022-02-08 12:22:45

*Thread Reply:* I saw it but not what I'm after right now

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-08 15:23:21

*Thread Reply:* I am not watching or bidding on that one.

2022-02-08 16:14:54

*Thread Reply:* I'm not either.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-09 10:37:31

*Thread Reply:* How high do you want to go? I'm in for this one...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-09 10:37:56

*Thread Reply:* PSD5 on eBay is $100 cheaper than PWP15 on YAJ; that's the entire point of bidding on this pencil on eBay

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 13:34:47

*Thread Reply:* I bid $150 on it

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 12:10:21

A PSD5 Double Knock.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 15:08:35

I am tempted to rub off the Olympics printing on my PX7‐21 Excalibur

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 16:02:17

I ordered a set recently, just to have. Then I ordered a second set, just so I can get the tip off of it and fix my SG75 (which has a PS65 tip on it).

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 16:25:16

How do you feel about the pen?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-08 16:25:22

In comparison to the pencil.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-09 12:09:12

Closing the loop on the S30x and Pentel 11. Same pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 15:45:27

*Thread Reply:* So, we still do not know what the Sharp 5 CPA is then?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-09 16:54:48

*Thread Reply:* I believe that the CPA is an 11.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-09 17:13:27

*Thread Reply:* Adding to this, it is specifically a .5mm version S305. Has any one seen a pencil labled with "CPA"?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 19:50:20

*Thread Reply:* Just in the 1965 US One Sheet

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:36:58

*Thread Reply:* Nice! The silver one looks so solid. Did you buy this one from yahoo.jp within the last few months?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:41:36

*Thread Reply:* No, this was from eBay last wendsday. The seller (yoshmura27) is in Japan.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:41:57

*Thread Reply:* So, he was probably also selling it on Yahoo.jp

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 21:20:06

*Thread Reply:* Yea I look at cameraen’s stuff a lot. Some of it is priced reasonable and some of it is outrageous. If he would sell them at that price I'd be tempted to offload some of mine like that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:10:38

Excalibur PX20 and a Scepter

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:11:54

is that a scepter?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:12:14

oh. Silver, right?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:20:47

I assume so. If so, it is tarnished, but I like it the way it is, so I won't clean it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:21:01

there's a silver plated and pure silver one

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:21:40

I have a feeling this is the silver plated one, as there is no mark on it, as I have seen referenced for the pure silver.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:23:03

Silver plated was 3,000 yen. Gold plated was 5,000 yen. Pure silver was 7,000 yen.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:23:25

such a great piece

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:24:34

I relly like the feel of it. It is a heavy pencil, especially compared to the PX20. It weighs 20g.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:24:49

The PX20 I have never seen before.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:25:00

did you get the pamphlet with it?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:25:03

It is a 0.5mm version of the P1007 Excalibur

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:25:13

The PX20? Yes.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:25:23

the Scepter

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:28:21

No, no pamphlet

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:30:47

Do you have the pamphlet?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 18:25:31

*Thread Reply:* I do not.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:31:21

I will be scanning the Excalibur pamphlet tonight and putting up on the Dropbox directory

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 14:43:02

Alright...I got the green Technoclic lot in. Let me know if you want one else I will list for sale

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-09 15:33:25

*Thread Reply:* want

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 16:41:52

*Thread Reply:* You got it dude. I'll put one aside for ya.

🙏 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 15:31:58

Looking at more images online, it looks like the Gold Plated and the Sterling Silver have text around the band of the body. There were several silver ones that don't, and mine does not, so I suspect those are the plated versions.

🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 20:12:45

I just posted the Excalibur Instructions/Pamphlet in the Dropbox Directory.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 20:13:02

Does anyone know when Pentel stopped using the Dragon logo?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 20:48:45

Transition years… the dragon mark was associated with the capitalised PENTEL which was in use up to 1971 when they switched to the rounded Pentel font.

AFAIK, the legacy dragon still appeared on the MEC boxes throughout the production run until around 2000 – 002 when the remainder MEC stock was sold without boxes.

🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-09 20:51:20

The Instruction sheet with the PX20 I got today had the dragon on it. The Date Code on the PX20 is 780817.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-09 22:16:32

Pentel has never wasted anything. They use up old stock and parts until they were gone. I have at least one pencil with both the new and old logo on it.

👍 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:41:17

I have been debating on that one.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:42:29

Not the worst price, tbh

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:42:52

A while back it was offered for $100, then it jumped to $120

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:43:12

Elton probably watched a couple auctions close high

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:55:25

*Thread Reply:* So, about US$93 plush shipping and forwarder tax. that it is only a slight margin below the ebay price.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:12:57

*Thread Reply:* This one is cheaper....

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:12:58

*Thread Reply:* https://www.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21719273613529

@露天拍賣
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:47:17

holy shit, buy em all

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:47:22

Can I do Shopee with Buyee?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:47:31

Bout to haree karee over these names

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:57:01

You can use https://twotreeteam.com/

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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 10:57:53

Did anybody notice the green Pentel 5ive here? https://www.ebay.com/itm/234400026423

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:23:19

*Thread Reply:* I did now. After the fact.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:27:40

*Thread Reply:* I saw it but got distracted.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:33:24

*Thread Reply:* Same

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:08:00

If anyone orders from Twotree let me know. I'll hit these up...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:10:20

*Thread Reply:* Those are rad 🤙:skintone6:

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:11:59

*Thread Reply:* I also want this...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:12:05

*Thread Reply:* cuz it's COOL AS SHIT!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:12:25

*Thread Reply:* and its YELLOW

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:15:56

*Thread Reply:* Yellow is pretty much an insta buy

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:41:53

I am noticing while looking on Shopee.tw, that there are a lot of Pentel spots that call out Pentel Flying Dragon.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:58:25

You should get this one!

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:58:27

https://www.pchomeus.com/item/show?30214486715797

@露天拍賣
Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:59:52

A couple of years ago I noticed some of my items listed on ruten and that made me not trust it. Has anyone here successfully purchased from it?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 11:59:53

I know that style photo

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 12:01:24

I find 5 items for a combined total of about US$400 that I want off shopee

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 12:12:23

And about 4 items off Ruten.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:16:28

Got an unsolicited package today.

🤯 Heath
2022-02-10 16:17:42

*Thread Reply:* Is that a white pd345??

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:18:45

*Thread Reply:* It is a white pd345 🤯

2022-02-10 16:19:26

*Thread Reply:* That whole bunch is awesome!

2022-02-10 16:21:04

*Thread Reply:* My jaw won't close

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:21:24

*Thread Reply:* same here

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:23:23

*Thread Reply:* If only the gray was a PS315N, instead of a P215N.

2022-02-10 16:23:57

*Thread Reply:* If only, lol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:25:04

*Thread Reply:* hah. I am most grateful for this. Best gift I've received in the pencil world, by far.

2022-02-10 16:25:27

*Thread Reply:* What is the black one?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:27:05

*Thread Reply:* Pentel A75

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:27:20

*Thread Reply:* Page 16 in Jimmy's book

👍 Heath, Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:28:59

*Thread Reply:* Jimmy's photo has it with an eraser cap. I don't think they came with a cap. I believe what is in the photo is someone put a PD345 cap on it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:30:13

*Thread Reply:* It is the Pre-Forte Pro II version of the A75. It is in the US 1990 catalog. The Forte Pro II A75 is in the International 2006 Catalog.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:30:24

*Thread Reply:* Another instance of Pentel reusing model numbers.

2022-02-10 16:39:51

*Thread Reply:* What page in the International 2006 is it on? I’m sure it’s right in front of my face…

2022-02-10 16:43:16

*Thread Reply:* I found the excel sheet - pg 120

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:44:40

*Thread Reply:* yea it's tough when you cant search for text cuz it's an image

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 16:44:54

*Thread Reply:* I use OCR sometimes to find things

2022-02-10 16:45:32

*Thread Reply:* wow they organized that 2006 catalog very oddly

2022-02-10 16:48:41

*Thread Reply:* So I’m sure you’ve been working on it… any date code or hole size for the unicorn?

2022-02-10 16:52:11

*Thread Reply:* And @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) - awesome job on the catalog spreadsheet!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 19:33:40

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bundle-of-5-Brand-New-rare-vintage-Pentel-Mechanical-Pencils-PS65-PS45-PS35-/115243401964?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bundle-of-5-Brand-New-rare-vintage-Pentel-Mechanical-Pencils-PS65-PS45-PS35-/115243401964?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

If anyone sees this posting and is interested I can get it for half that price.

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 20:23:09

If I hadn't just completed my set...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 22:02:29

I already made an offer on this; I want it shipped for $160

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-10 22:02:38

He declined

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-10 22:17:04

He's the guy in Norway I tried getting to buy some PS lots from an auction house there for me. He said he wasn’t interested but obviously went buy them.

🙌 Pearsonified
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:04:12

This went for a good price 😞

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:04:13

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x1035765203

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:04:41

My bid was ¥34,300

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:04:52

no, ¥34,400

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:04:58

so the winning bid was the one to displace mine

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:05:03

there always one a-hole who does this

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 08:07:50

Not me 😀

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 09:30:24

Deal of the Day™ is a PG4 for ¥3700 https://jp.mercari.com/item/m74391787568

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 09:41:29

*Thread Reply:* oh man. That's one of my fav Kerrys. I wish I would have paid that.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 09:48:44

Already got mine :D

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:04:37

I have been thinking about picking up an extra PG4 to modify into a P204.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:10:32

Yes! I want to do the same, but it's semi cost-prohibitive just to get a damn tip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:10:36

and clutch, I gues

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:11:35

Hell, I don't even have a P203 yet

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:23:12

I have the Rolling Writer companion to the SG75 if anyone is interested

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:41:31

*Thread Reply:* Do you have the SG75?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:58:18

*Thread Reply:* No

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:59:06

*Thread Reply:* Would you like one?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:01:32

*Thread Reply:* I think you know the answer to that 😁

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:00

*Thread Reply:* Ok I'll set one aside for you. And a green technoclic

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:11

*Thread Reply:* This shipment lookin lit

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:19

*Thread Reply:* So Norwegian homey bought the SG45s

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:29

*Thread Reply:* Does he have a bunch of them?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:37

*Thread Reply:* Yes a lot

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:46

*Thread Reply:* I bought two sets from him for $15 a pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:50

*Thread Reply:* Hmmm, he was stupid not to accept my $160

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:56

*Thread Reply:* Well shit, I need all the colors except black

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:02:57

*Thread Reply:* I'm getting tired of dealing with him though

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:03:01

*Thread Reply:* red, green, blue

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:03:10

*Thread Reply:* Ok I'll put those aside for you when I get them.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 11:04:16

*Thread Reply:* Ok

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 12:31:49

*Thread Reply:* Well hell yes, thank you!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:32:16

@Pearsonified If the auction for the Rolly falls through, there is this https://jp.mercari.com/item/m62892822874

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:32:35

Yeah, but that one's a pen 😁

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:32:45

PC205 went this morning for 2755

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:32:53

I already have one, or else I'd have gotten it

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:34:16

Missed that it was a pen

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 10:36:17

But if you win the auction, you could get a matching set.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 12:42:36

Anyone interested in an A5 / B5 set?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-11 14:30:45

I think this is officially number 1 on my Holy Grail list: https://jp.mercari.com/item/m55254681816

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 15:22:31

Yes, that is in the next version of the book.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-11 20:02:22

The All White Quicker Clicker surprise.

✅ Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11, Pearsonified
2022-02-12 13:07:58

*Thread Reply:* Unfortunately Magna Industries has been around for a while so no help narrowing the date. In wetlines’ Reddit post he says he picked up three - I wonder if they were all for the same company? Maybe you can ask him to look at his others for the hole size and date codes?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-13 20:21:12

*Thread Reply:* Yeah all three had the same branding. He removed the logo on one of them.

I'm going to keep the logo on it just to keep it original. It photographs really well with it hiding. 😃

There's more out there. There has to be. We just have to wait until someone comes across them.

2022-02-11 20:05:55

That is so cool

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-12 10:41:56

I'm not gonna do this, but y'all should 😁 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1036415278

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 10:42:29

I'm watching that one with my entire being

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 10:42:37

Jimmy already has these thank goodness.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 11:52:56

*Thread Reply:* https://www.flickr.com/photos/nimrodd/51535773934/in/dateposted/

Flickr
} nimrodd (https://www.flickr.com/photos/nimrodd/)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-12 10:48:28

The yellow is rad

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-12 11:02:09

*Thread Reply:* I expected that one to go for more

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 18:51:29

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/1037130698?lang=en&rc=yauccsp|https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/1037130698?lang=en&rc=yauccsp

I'd like to be in on this but want to offer to @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) first if there are any in here you don't have.

👍 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:28:02

*Thread Reply:* At least 2 of them I do not have, I believe.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:31:04

*Thread Reply:* Ok let me know if you want to take a swing at them. You obviously should get them first.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:34:56

*Thread Reply:* I just placed a bid on them, ¥10000

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:36:10

*Thread Reply:* Hope you get 'em. I love those pieces.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 20:04:35

*Thread Reply:* We will see on Thursday.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-18 07:26:14

*Thread Reply:* 👀

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:31:00

And here is another rarity

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:32:04

*Thread Reply:* Ahhh. I still need white and green. Wasn't gonna chase the gold but damn.

You going after it?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:35:28

*Thread Reply:* No, I am not going after it now. I only have a black P1135

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:37:26

*Thread Reply:* Have at it guys… I stopped after green, gold/black and white.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 19:38:01

*Thread Reply:* You know how many times I said I stopped? Sigh.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 20:05:18

*Thread Reply:* Doesn't include the White, but has the other four. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1037126822

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 20:07:57

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I have black, blue, brown, red.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 20:15:23

*Thread Reply:* There's a couple of individual green ones for sale but the pocket clip is scuffed.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-13 07:48:50

*Thread Reply:* I got a gold P2135 in a big lot for SUPER cheap

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-13 07:49:12

*Thread Reply:* it's not in great condition, but it IS in the collection 💅:skintone6:

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-12 20:39:28

Here is another brown P225 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q1037108740

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-13 19:44:23

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) or @Knocktype11 did this set actually ship with the PS523?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-13 20:16:59

I am not positive, as I have never seen anything about these packages, other than the e-bay listing I bought them from.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 08:30:08

Nice

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-14 14:12:52

Forgot about the PSD5 auction, and now I hate myself

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 14:26:57

I got outbid in the last 2 seconds. It sold for $152.50

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:24:49

Did somebody on here score this? I sat on it for months because I'm a moron https://jp.mercari.com/item/m49027019330

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:43:49

*Thread Reply:* That was me.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:45:59

*Thread Reply:* I only have myself to blame. Guess I was waiting on more input on the lineage of this pencil to be certain it was a great deal

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:46:15

*Thread Reply:* But I didn't want to ask anyone here, because I felt like no one woudl ever find it 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:49:06

*Thread Reply:* I just got my first one last week, and fell in love with it. It has such a nice weight (20g) and feel, that I wanted to pick up another one.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:49:19

*Thread Reply:* I ended up picking up 2 more.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:49:51

*Thread Reply:* As far as I can tell all three I picked up are the Silver Plated versions.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 15:48:08

I found a US 2011 Pentel Consumer Catalog. It has been added to the Catalog directory, along with the updated spreadsheet. There are also 2 links at the top for a 2009 Promotional Products Catalog and a 2010 Imprint Division Catalog, that I cannot download. These are NOT in the spreadsheet.

👍 Heath, sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-14 19:55:22

*Thread Reply:* And added to the Catlog Directory

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 16:22:08

Thanks to @sideKnocks (atxalais), PDFs of the 2009 Promotional Products Catalog and a 2010 Imprint Division Catalog are now in the Catalog directory. The 2022 Mexico Catalog is there now, along with the updated spreadsheet.

🕺 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 23:17:58

*Thread Reply:* And just updated the Catalog Spreadsheet again. I had missed adding the Turkey 2015 catalog. I had also missed adding the Malaysia catalog, which was not a Malaysia catalog, but an International catalog, that I downloaded from Pentel Malaysia. I have renamed it to 2021 International.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 16:39:09

I also just loaded the latest version (v2007.02) of the Pentel ID Book. This took a while, as I added 50+ pages of pencils for a total of (currently) 211 pages of pencils.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:14:10

I don't have the right FFF words:

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m91339975985

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:16:50

*Thread Reply:* They are MUCH prouder of their FFF than this guy was https://jp.mercari.com/item/m56856353964

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:18:28

*Thread Reply:* That's almost… reasonable 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 22:40:10

*Thread Reply:* I hope so, because I bought it.

🙇 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 22:40:20

*Thread Reply:* I really like the Black P115

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-16 08:11:36

*Thread Reply:* omg, yellow FFF too?!?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-16 08:11:48

*Thread Reply:* Amazing, never seen one before. LOVE the red-gripped specimen as well

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-16 08:11:59

*Thread Reply:* I did manage to score a black P115 for cheap

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-16 08:12:06

*Thread Reply:* I have the basic P115 and the black one

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-16 08:33:05

*Thread Reply:* I currently have a Silver P115 with Black grips. I really wanted a Black P115, and now I am going to have it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:14:37

Oh my.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:17:32

Let's turn this into a digi-fizzy NFT and share it. 😉

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:25:57

or how about the ¥95000 Popeye P565 (appears to be gone now)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 20:58:30

*Thread Reply:* Can believe you paid that much for it. 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-15 22:39:36

*Thread Reply:* Not me. I'm saving my money to win the 5 Disney pencils

2022-02-16 20:21:18

*Thread Reply:* Here’s the link for it lol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-16 20:39:47

*Thread Reply:* I have that pencil with Donald Duck. Donald Duck is way more valuable than wimpy Popeye. 😉

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-17 09:16:03

*Thread Reply:* Well, I just saw what I needed to identify which Popeye pencil that is, and I do not own it. It is Popeye walking with Olive Oyl. Still not going to pay that much.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-16 09:58:45

@sideKnocks (atxalais) @Dry Do either of you know when the PD515 pencils came out? Both the Jetclic and the Pop'npop.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-17 08:30:34

Cool, the one day I forget to bid before bed 😔 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1036868736

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-20 13:22:54

I just uploaded the latest: _Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2012.01.pdf.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-20 13:23:26

There is also a PDF of two pages of the Japanese 2007 catalog that was up on Twitter.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-20 16:27:06

Just saw this up on Yahoo Japan Auctions: PD275 Gomdale Click https://zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=t1016243766

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-20 17:38:41

Yea that black gomdale is cool. It won a Good Design Award in the 90s. But I don't do rubber grips even on side knocks.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-20 19:53:53

I have some of the PD27x… several were made in Mexico

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:33:03

Wish more Smash had color coordinated grip pads and markings… only the dark navy / yellow is an actual release. The rest have custom pads from spare Smash…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:34:41

My favorite Smash. I have a bunch of white pencils.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:41:22

Is that the Loft? The first bunch of 'limited’ Smash with wide appeal :-)

I wonder if there was any Smash that came with WHITE grip pads?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:41:54

Yes, it is. Q1005-9LF

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:42:08

I would love to find one with White pads and plunger

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:42:32

Me too. Closest is light grey so far…

2022-02-22 20:42:52

https://neokyo.com/en/product/mercari/m56249642140

Neokyo
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:42:57

I keep seeing that one and hoping

2022-02-22 20:44:14

Can’t tell if these pads are clear or white?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:46:19

Those are clear pads over a white core.

👍 Heath
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-22 20:47:10

Like the recent Graph 1000 ‘marble’ limiteds that had my hopes up for some white grip pads at a sane price.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 09:01:48

Question for the Sharplet Collectors. Did Pentel put out a Sharplet 400? I know of the 100, 200, 300, 500 & 501.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-23 10:34:57

*Thread Reply:* I don't collect Sharplets and I have never seen a 400. There is a Sharplet-4 though. There is also no GraphGear 400.. @Kelvin Pang (drifand) is right there is a taboo about 4.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 10:15:06

Don't think 400 yen was ever an official / popular price point. There's some superstition with the number 4 sounding like ‘death’.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-23 13:03:56

*Thread Reply:* I've only ever seen BOXY The Stick models with ¥400 price stickers

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 16:35:18

*Thread Reply:* The DPD359 were ¥400

2022-03-03 04:49:16

*Thread Reply:* They even sub out 'shi' for 'yon' and 'shichi' for 'nana' when counting from 1-10. Shi is 4 and shichi is 7. Fun fact.

👍 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 15:23:03

@Kelvin Pang (drifand) The PR1005 came in Cork?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:24:32

Yes, there were at least 2 types of Ergonomix with cork grips. A lighter beige and a darker brown. I think they corresponded to certain wood scents - dark drown was Cedar. Came in a glass tube.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 11:19:09

*Thread Reply:* And the lighter one is up on Yahoo Auctions now. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o1038706514

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 11:19:29

*Thread Reply:* And a ballpoint version just ended. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r1038752020

ヤフオク!
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:25:09

https://pin.it/2bMsRdy

Pinterest
2022-02-23 19:28:29

What is the function of that mid section bit on the brown?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:30:43

It's an ergonomic device that tucks back against the web between your thumb and forefinger. There's a switchback track that lets you twist the nub back and forth and adjust the position for maximum comfort.

2022-02-23 19:31:55

Ah interesting. I couldn't picture it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:32:30

Very similar to the PR505

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:32:39

It's a lot more comfy compared to the Winggrip model!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:34:16

Do you mind if I use your pictures for the Pentel ID Book?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:35:31

Please go ahead. I can take cleaner pix if you need. The PR505 has a wave pattern in the rubber grip. It feels soft but in use I find that it rubs quite aggressively against my fingers. The cork feels… nicer.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:42:04

How would you like to be credited. Drifand, Kelvin Pang, or something else?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:43:18

drifand is fine 👍:skintone2:

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:54:40

Does anyone have a P300?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-23 20:14:30

*Thread Reply:* I have one or two. I think they are both black though

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 21:27:29

*Thread Reply:* I am just wondering, how the tip compares to the Kerry?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 21:33:20

*Thread Reply:* It looks the same, but I can't tell size-wise.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 21:59:09

*Thread Reply:* I have a black and a green…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 22:18:44

*Thread Reply:* So, it looks like they are the same size, just a different finish. Plus 0.7mm.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-23 22:22:22

*Thread Reply:* The Kerry tip is matte but the P300 tip is shiny. The second picture the Kerry tip is on the right. But not exactly apples to apples since the Kerry is a P1035. I'll dig up my P1037. The tips are the same length (19mm). The maximum diameters are 8mm and 9mm Kerry vs P300.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-23 22:29:34

*Thread Reply:* Found my P1037! The maximum diameter of the tip is 8mm.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:56:53

Not I. I keep coming across a listing with 3 of them. If it was the whole set I would consider dropping the money.

@George Fox has some

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 19:57:19

But that bat call probably won't work 😉

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 21:54:39

I found this page that lists a bunch of Pentel pencils. Not all, but it did point me to ones I did not know about. http://moonpaste.net/stmg/cgi-bin/moonwiki/wiki.cgi?pentel

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-23 23:27:53

Moonpaste used to post regularly on Twitter - detailed photos, disassemblies etc but seems to have dropped off the radar. Only text nowadays… no pix.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 17:14:13

I finally finished the Pentel Pencil Identification Book and put it in the Catalog Directory (_Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2022.02.pdf). Well, not "finished". As long as Pentel puts out new catalogs and new pencils, it won't be "finished", but I am currently up to date.

If you see anything that needs to be clarified or corrected, or if you have better pictures, I would appreciate the help.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 17:53:07

*Thread Reply:* WOW! Great job! This is absolutely fantastic to have.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 17:58:03

*Thread Reply:* some of the g-mark URLs aren't working for me

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:02:16

*Thread Reply:* GG 1000 won a good design award: https://www.g-mark.org/award/describe/27394?token=O2fqUxeRM4

Good Design Award
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:05:07

*Thread Reply:* Sharp 7 won a good design award: https://www.g-mark.org/award/describe/26920?token=M27wWoZfl8

Good Design Award
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:07:37

*Thread Reply:* I will second the praise for this! I wish I had this a few years ago.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:09:23

*Thread Reply:* The PW55 won a Good Design, not the PW45. Not sure if that matters

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:13:40

*Thread Reply:* I don't see Q315 which was the mechanical pencil version of the TW series

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:13:44

*Thread Reply:* which won a good design award

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:38:20

*Thread Reply:* I saw this, but could not tell what it was. Some of the GMark stuff did not list what it was, just had a small picture. THat was the case with the Sharp 7. I could not identify it. I must have missed the GG1000, as those are very distinct.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:38:37

*Thread Reply:* Do you have some more info about the Q315

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 18:42:58

*Thread Reply:* Or pictures of some Q315 pencils? I don't find many good pics.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:08:56

*Thread Reply:* If you don't mind mining some pictures from auctions: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1036416363

ヤフオク!
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:11:16

*Thread Reply:* Also not fantastic: https://www.pentelcolombia.com/product-page/portaminas-pentel-tw-q315

Pentel Colombia
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:12:56

*Thread Reply:* I found this one that had 3 of them

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:12:58

*Thread Reply:* https://www.facebook.com/commerce/products/2372911672756642/

facebook.com
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:14:08

*Thread Reply:* This one from my notes: https://blog.goo.ne.jp/monogusa-hakubutsukan/e/d45f3366ff71eb83cc87e74f9ed238bf

blog.goo.ne.jp
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:40:26

*Thread Reply:* That page also has a picture of an EA505? Yes? Never seen this one before.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 19:41:08

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) Do you know the link for the Q315 Good Design Award. I cannot locate it on the page, unless it is this one, which I cannot identify, since the picture is so small and no description. https://www.g-mark.org/award/describe/19564

Good Design Award
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 20:00:00

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) Are you sure it was the PW55 that won the Good Design Award, and not the PW45? https://www.g-mark.org/award/describe/25105

Good Design Award
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 20:01:34

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 Regarding the EA505, I found that through Moonpaste's page. Just the name, so I looked it up and found it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 21:04:57

*Thread Reply:* You can check here.....https://www.pentel.co.jp/special/9458/

ぺんてる株式会社
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 21:29:08

*Thread Reply:* Looking at the g-mark website, it has no description, and the picture shows more of the muted PW45 colors

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 21:41:07

*Thread Reply:* I think the photo on the link I sent above is what made me think that the award went to the PW55. I guess it went to both.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-24 20:55:10

Updated to v2022.03

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-27 09:24:05

Why can't I remember to bid at night?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-27 09:24:05

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p1039195553

ヤフオク!
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 00:27:21

A stealth listing without even a ‘Pentel’…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:20:44

*Thread Reply:* That is why I always thought this was a much earlier pencil. Unless you look at the clip (in small text), all of the other text mentions nothing about Pentel.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:13:16

I just posted the latest update for the Pentel Pencil Identification Book v2022.04. This has a few more Disney pencils, plus all of the Person's Collection pencils I could identify.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 11:54:10

*Thread Reply:* Awesome! I have a few Person's pieces somewhere in my boxes here that I can send you photos of that aren't in your book.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 11:54:31

*Thread Reply:* Also small alignment issue on page 330

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 11:54:34

*Thread Reply:*

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 11:59:08

*Thread Reply:* Those fields don't overlap often. I will fix that.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:45:37

P35 Hue is a mini grail for me, so here’s a pic I found with the colors and codes… It didn't even have the black!

• P35-B Red • P35-C Blue • P35-C2 Light Blue • P35-D Emerald • P35-D2 Dark Green • P35-F Orange • P35-K Yellow Green • P35-P Pink • P35-P2 Light Pink • P35-S Sky Blue

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:47:07

*Thread Reply:* ❤️ I have 5 of these colors.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:55:38

*Thread Reply:* The Dark Green… is elusive!!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:50:03

A scan reference for the original P115 colors.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:29:01

*Thread Reply:* Do we know what the colors were fro the black bodies? I know I purchased a Yellow or Orange. I will see when they arrive.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:44:28

*Thread Reply:* I have 3 silver (black, brown and red) and 2 black/fff (blue and yellow). For Silver, I believe the Red is more crimson compared to the fff version, which is a bit more carnation?

And from what I've seen, the fff Blue is a bright medium-blue compared to the darker navy hue for the silver version.

fff Yellow is a nice chrome yellow… not quite lemony

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:49:45

*Thread Reply:* This is the one I got https://jp.mercari.com/item/m56856353964

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 11:17:06

*Thread Reply:* The Green is very vibrant on the FFF as well. https://m.blog.naver.com/enne313/30153073916

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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:50:38

A set of P115s is hard to imagine

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:50:48

silver + colors, black + colors

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:50:59

Were there champagne finishes, too?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 08:54:59

Not too sure… I think it's more about different lighting on the steel finish

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:05:09

An auction pic of the PEL Stainless / ペル ステンレス

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:07:10

This on YAJ right now?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:34:42

*Thread Reply:* No… saved date is June 2019

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:36:40

*Thread Reply:* oh jeez

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:20:18

A clipping which claims the PS1042 as the world’s first 0.2mm pencil in 1973

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:26:59

*Thread Reply:* Google Translate is my friend

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:28:03

*Thread Reply:* You have a PS1042, right?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:30:07

*Thread Reply:* I have a PS1042 & PS1045 sitting at Neokyo right now waiting for the rest of my orders to arrive.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:31:16

*Thread Reply:* nice. Do you know if you're getting the box with the pamphlet and the side corner piece with the price?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:32:32

*Thread Reply:* I don't think so.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:36:45

*Thread Reply:* I purchased these off Mercari, after I had already placed a bid on a P1042 on Yahoo Auctions. So I also have a second P1042 coming in.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:43:58

*Thread Reply:* Do we know when the PS1045 came out?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:33:17

Pentel ‘Sharp L’ / シャープ エル Appears to use a similar cap system as the PMG. There’s a tantalising date slip hidden behind the pencils on the tray… The box cover says “Sharp for use by Fashionable Women!”

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-02 07:49:23

*Thread Reply:* Well, SingaporeMechanicalPencils reposted the eBay auction for the green for $60. Someone won it already. I hope it was one of you. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304379424251

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 20:48:55

*Thread Reply:* This showed up on Twitter today. https://twitter.com/Q1015_C/status/1499353298620485634

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 17:27:20

*Thread Reply:* Just now seeing this. I got the green Sharp L

👍 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:43:00

I just received my shipment from Argentina. It is what I hoped it was, an EX-20 set with the Gold PX7-21 Excalibur pencil and the RX21 Rolling Writer.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:43:40

*Thread Reply:* excellent! Glad it worked out for you. My orders from there worked out perfectly too.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:44:01

*Thread Reply:* havent come across anything from there lately though

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:47:32

*Thread Reply:* In the photo, I could not tell if it was the Silver set with yellow lighting or if it was the Gold set. Glad I was right. Someone is selling the pencil on Mercari for ¥27000 https://jp.mercari.com/item/m50507909802

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:48:31

*Thread Reply:* I got the set for a little over a quarter of that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:53:07

*Thread Reply:* Now, all I need is the silver P1007 to complete my Excalibur SG pencils, although I have the Japanese only 0.5mm version SX20.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:53:40

*Thread Reply:* That and the Blue and Green SG45, and I will have all of the SG pencils.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:54:32

*Thread Reply:* I recall you once saying that you weren't trying to get all colors and variations but just one of each series 🙂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:55:05

*Thread Reply:* Of most of the pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:55:50

*Thread Reply:* But when I get close like this, I would like to complete them. ANd I was wrong, I am also missing the SG65 Gold non-Excalibur

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:56:54

*Thread Reply:* the 65 is the one without the stripes, right?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:56:58

*Thread Reply:* And for the most part, these are all one of a series. Only the SG45 has multiple colors.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:57:16

*Thread Reply:* Yes, the SG65 does not have the stripes. That is the SG75.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:58:02

*Thread Reply:* For which I now have a correct tip, thanks to the heroic sacrifice of a 1984 Olympics PX7-21WO pencil.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 09:58:09

*Thread Reply:* I only have one Excalibur Rolling Writers and it came with an Olympic set. I gotta say, that pen is very disappointing.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 10:00:50

*Thread Reply:* I only collect the pens to match the pencils. I don't plan to ever use them. The only time I ever use a pen is when I have to sign documents, and I have better writing pens for that. I even found an R1000 in a box set with the wrong Kerry to go with it. I bought that and a correct era Kerry to go with it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 10:01:30

*Thread Reply:* Yea I don't use pens much either. Being a lefty, I always chose pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 10:01:48

*Thread Reply:* All my notes are in pencil

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 10:02:08

*Thread Reply:* Usually a Lindsay Wilson PG5.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 10:02:21

*Thread Reply:* You can see one of them in the background of the above shot.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 10:03:40

*Thread Reply:* My daily use has been a pink Kerry for a while now.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 11:57:50

Does anyone have any good shots of the PXN105 and PXN205 Excalibur Technomatics? The only information (with small pictures) I could find are at https://m.blog.naver.com/enne313/221793917635 https://blog.naver.com/enne313/30173780678 And a Google Image for an AucFree listing that is no longer there

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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 12:07:17

These are super badass

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 12:08:38

*Thread Reply:* Thought these might get your attention

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-02-28 12:09:16

*Thread Reply:* Pretty sure a gold specimen went off on YAJ for a crazy price within the last couple of months

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 12:12:05

*Thread Reply:* Would not be surprised. I have seen partial shots of these before, but nothing to identify them. Mostly in the background of other pencils, I could see that very distinctive clip.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 14:52:10

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) are these in your book?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-28 15:08:48

*Thread Reply:* It is in the book. These are S19s.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 15:09:01

*Thread Reply:* Yes. Those are listed as Sharp 9 (S19)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 15:09:30

*Thread Reply:* I could use a better picture of the blue one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 15:24:17

*Thread Reply:* Got it. Thanks! For some reason when I searched for Sharp 9 I kept overlooking it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-28 16:11:37

*Thread Reply:* If you want to get into the fun area there was a S15 confirmed. I suspect a S17 but have not seen any of them.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 17:33:03

*Thread Reply:* That does sound like fun.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 17:33:14

*Thread Reply:* I really enjoy these plastic pencils

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-28 17:46:01

*Thread Reply:* They are pretty cool. Check out the giant brass clutch they have.

Mitsubishi made a similar pencil.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 17:58:56

This is the tray that my P115A fff yellow came in. My take is that the ‘A’ designation is not for color of the pad but to differentiate the fff (or ‘F Three / エフスリー’ as printed on the tray label) from the previous standard P115. Perhaps the ‘GD’ in yellow circle is the color code (ie for the yellow pads).

If the JIS code can reveal more info, I’m all ears! :-)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 18:27:00

*Thread Reply:* The GD makes sense for the Yellow, since the other image of the silver P115s were AD, BD, etc.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-02-28 19:14:35

*Thread Reply:* i'm not sure that the JIS information will give anything useful. Here is an abbreviated version of the spec:

https://kikakurui.com/s/S6013-2015-01.html

It is still kind of interesting. There is an ISO spec which covers similar things.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 07:21:04

*Thread Reply:* P115A is godly

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 08:00:59

*Thread Reply:* It would be nice if we could find a labeled tray of the silver ones to see how they are labeled.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-09 07:17:42

*Thread Reply:* "My take is that the ‘A’ designation is not for color of the pad but to differentiate the fff". That makes perfect sense, since A = Black.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-09 07:26:08

*Thread Reply:* And I found a photo of a Silver P115 Tray. https://www.fitoffice.co.jp/SHOP/ZA063005.html

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-02-28 23:00:01

Does anyone have any A135 Sharplet 100s that they could get me photos of?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 09:30:55

*Thread Reply:* I have some

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 13:45:42

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 13:54:10

*Thread Reply:* actually looks blurry. i'll take another photo

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:07:08

*Thread Reply:* It is fine. Remember, it is going to be shrunk down to about 6" wide on printing and even smaller on most screens. If you blow it up on a large monitor, there are so many others that will look like blobs of color, such as some of the higher end Lancelots.

But if you want to send me another, I will use it.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 00:29:02

Sorry, only A125 I think

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 09:12:32

Not a legit listing but fun to look at.....

https://senator.currentcard.xyz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2_64&products_id=12952&zenid=bkmtiuuqrd3e897h3vpkfiujb2

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Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 10:48:32

Question about adding an item to the ID Book. Should this Renoma REP35 go into the book? https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=1039670980

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 10:50:17

*Thread Reply:* I haven't come across anyone who collects renoma so with that I'd say no however lately I've been thinking that anything that we come across should be added just as a reference cuz one day one of us will be searching the book for it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 10:51:14

*Thread Reply:* Maybe there's two versions of the book. Main Pentel production pieces and oddballs and special production like Renoma, Person’s, etc

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 10:52:35

*Thread Reply:* Or maybe once one of us owns a piece it can get added to a “Knockology owned” book

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 10:52:44

*Thread Reply:* Ahh I don't know 😀

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 10:59:13

*Thread Reply:* This Renoma is Rolly. The PQ10 (Person’s Shower Man) that @Knocktype11 has is the same pencil as the Gomdale QE505. The PQ11 (Person’s Shower Man) that I have is a PD355. Maybe we just mention any known special versions within the main listing and then have a separate book for collaboration pieces like Person’s and Renoma.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:00:29

*Thread Reply:* I say no, as white labels are just different variations of original products

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:00:34

*Thread Reply:* Maybe all the Burberry pieces that none of us care about could go in there too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:00:45

*Thread Reply:* You could apply the same reasoning to the CDT GraphGear 500

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:00:47

*Thread Reply:* There are some original pieces

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:00:52

*Thread Reply:* True

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:01:55

*Thread Reply:* Because of Pentel's brand legacy, I think it makes sense to add a section to the catalog to cover notable white label releases (CDT, Person's Collection, Muji, etc)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:25:37

*Thread Reply:* Re: Burberry - I thought about trying to add those, but I don't believe I have seen actual model number attached to them. Just Burberry Kerry.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:26:49

*Thread Reply:* I could create an appendix at the back that has the White Label releases, in the same format. Would that include the Disney and Popeye pencils?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:27:20

*Thread Reply:* I am not familiar with the CDT GraphGear 500. I have both Muji.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:27:28

*Thread Reply:* I have the CDT Kerry as well

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:27:35

*Thread Reply:* there's a special place in my heart for the disney and popeye pencils that wants them in the main book

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:27:50

*Thread Reply:* Same here

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:28:03

*Thread Reply:* Especially since they are P200 variants

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:28:12

*Thread Reply:* yeah I have the CDT Kerry that I keep taking out of the box and putting it in a collection case and then end up putting it back in it's original box.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:28:27

*Thread Reply:* I never got any of mine in a box

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:29:11

*Thread Reply:* getting the box for a piece is exciting but I really like all of my pencils grouped together in a storage case so I'm always torn

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:30:34

*Thread Reply:* I have that same issue with the Graph 620 and the new 50th anniversary Kerrys

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:30:56

*Thread Reply:* The box is what has the barcode and color info.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:31:05

*Thread Reply:* I have one of my 50ths in the box and one out

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:31:05

*Thread Reply:* There are no stickers on any of those.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:31:59

*Thread Reply:* What are the Origami pieces you are talking about?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:32:55

*Thread Reply:* I also have reservations about moving the Popeye pencils to the back, because they are not associated with a distinct retailer.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:33:18

*Thread Reply:* Origami?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:33:33

*Thread Reply:* "There are some origami pieces"

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:33:45

*Thread Reply:* about 30 minutes ago you posted that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:34:14

*Thread Reply:* sorry that was supposed to be original

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:34:36

*Thread Reply:* some of the Person's and Burberry pieces are not white labels of production models

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 11:38:31

*Thread Reply:* I don't think any of the Burberry's are. They are based on the Kerry, but definitely have their own "flavor".

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 13:41:33

*Thread Reply:* Where would items such as the YGQ1 fit? It is the last pencil in the current book, and is a commemorative edition? How about the Olympics editions?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 13:48:39

*Thread Reply:* what about this PD335 ? https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1639509140092900

} sideKnocks (atxalais) (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U021AFX2SM9)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-01 14:49:52

*Thread Reply:* I would add them all in. An identification guide should include the common or not so common pencils which could be encountered. Put those persons in. The number of disney related pencils could be a problem, or a single page.

2022-03-01 15:02:50

*Thread Reply:* What’s the point of an ID book if it’s missing shit? If it’s Pentel related, it should be in there.

👀 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-03-01 15:03:43

*Thread Reply:* Obviously just my .02

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:09:59

*Thread Reply:* I agree, and disagree. Yes, it should have all pencils that are available, but I am currently leaving out all of the Limited Edition Colors.

What I would say is, if it is/was commercially available, then it should be added. If it is something that a company printed as a give-away, I would say no.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:13:45

*Thread Reply:* I cannot tell which end the above falls on, but it did appear to have it's own model number (WPD335). And what is Mizuna? If we can determine who the seller is, such as Muji, Craft Design Technology, Person's Collection, etc., then Yes. If we don't know who was selling it, I am on the fence. For the above?...

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:14:40

*Thread Reply:* Totally agree that any imprint stuff should not be included, except maybe to note that imprint was available for a given model.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:32:15

*Thread Reply:* Mizuno is a brand that sells baseball equipment. They had a set of stationary products that pentel made for their World Win product line.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:35:52

*Thread Reply:* Okay, that works then.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:36:08

*Thread Reply:* I did not realize that CDT had an S55.

👍 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:36:33

*Thread Reply:* https://craft-design-technology.com/products/255 Slightly different clip, but...

craft-design-technology.com
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:46:25

*Thread Reply:* Does this look like a version of a Pentel pencil? The tip looks like a Rolly. https://craft-design-technology.com/products/195

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 15:50:30

*Thread Reply:* The pen version we know is pentel

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 16:44:50

*Thread Reply:* I think that oen is a Parker-style single knock

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 16:44:56

*Thread Reply:* and the CDT S55 is just awesome

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 16:45:30

*Thread Reply:* That Parker-style might be a Pentel, but if it is, it's the only Pentel I've ever seen with a Schmidt mechanism

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-01 16:45:47

*Thread Reply:* (The Rolly mechanism has a similar shape, but as far as I know, it's only ever been used in a double knock context)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 18:40:27

*Thread Reply:* Okay, I will leave that one out.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 18:47:18

*Thread Reply:* Nope. I found it. It is a Pentel A21 https://twitter.com/cuirassier_/status/939505515444387840

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:23:29

I know. I placed a ¥11000 bid on it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:24:28

*Thread Reply:* Your 11000 bid is long gone.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:25:51

*Thread Reply:* It stood until I went to bed.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:26:02

*Thread Reply:* The night it was posted

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:26:33

*Thread Reply:* Plot twist: Pentel is secretly bidding to flesh out their corporate museum.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:26:47

*Thread Reply:* I am bidding on a few of his auctions.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:27:13

*Thread Reply:* https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=w1039643997 https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=h1039645958 https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=1039678170 https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=l1039650217

zenmarket.jp
zenmarket.jp
zenmarket.jp
zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:28:25

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I'm bidding on those Steins. I still don't have that set.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:28:55

*Thread Reply:* I have a set of P1135. I love 'em.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:29:04

*Thread Reply:* I bid up to ¥5100 on each of the Steins

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:29:22

*Thread Reply:* You don't already have those?

2022-03-01 20:29:43

*Thread Reply:* Everyone needs to back off….

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:29:51

*Thread Reply:* Yes, but I can mark them at my normal price of $15.00 each and still sell them at a profit.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:29:51

*Thread Reply:* Go to bed Z

2022-03-01 20:30:02

*Thread Reply:* Lolol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:31:06

*Thread Reply:* Do you not have either of those sets?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:31:55

*Thread Reply:* That Be Bop sharplet and that red 501 are looking good

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:32:13

*Thread Reply:* I don't have either of those sets. I think I have a couple singles but I'd have to dig

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 20:32:53

*Thread Reply:* I don't have any of those, except for the Red XS Ballpoint

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-02 07:24:39

*Thread Reply:* Some really solid Pentels available right now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-02 07:24:54

*Thread Reply:* I knew one of y'all would be watching these

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 22:39:28

Not sure if anyone is interested https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b1039749334

ヤフオク!
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-01 22:55:47

*Thread Reply:* I don't collect Sharplets. And besides I already have all of those.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-02 05:57:01

*Thread Reply:* You could create a slack bot rule that will auto respond “I don't collect Sharplets”

You say that a lot. 😊

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-02 10:15:42

*Thread Reply:* True! It would save me alot of time.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-01 22:41:10

Not for me 🙂

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-03 13:44:01

Pentel Pencil (A75) and Sharplet-4 (A200) are the same. The Sharplet-4's model number is an odd duck.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 13:45:21

*Thread Reply:* I knew you loved Sharplets

slackbot
2022-03-03 13:45:21

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

🤪 Knocktype11
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:10:19

*Thread Reply:* I don't. I just have a bunch.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:26:57

*Thread Reply:* I have that noted in the ID Book under the Form Factor field.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:28:05

*Thread Reply:* I did NOT realize that the A75 came in colors other than Black.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:33:56

*Thread Reply:* And, I now have a Black and a Blue A75 showing in the book.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:42:59

*Thread Reply:* I did see the A75 form factor part in the ID book but did not connect them until I had them both in my hand at the same time. Did the A75 usually come with a cap also?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:43:31

*Thread Reply:* wait till you see this....

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:43:33

*Thread Reply:*

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:47:08

*Thread Reply:* Whoa Dude! That is something to behold. So black, blue, green, what is missing here: A, x, C, D? 🤔

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 14:48:35

*Thread Reply:* My thoughts too, but sometimes Pentel skipped one of those colors.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-03 15:08:24

*Thread Reply:* It is dangerous to both extrapolate and interpolate with Pentel. I have been bitten by that more than once.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-03 15:37:08

*Thread Reply:* I know. That is why for the most part, I only list what I have seen. And a lot of the dates are listed as "1970's", etc.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 16:55:08

Has anyone ever seen a P245 with the text on the barrel that has a price sticker? I have some without the text with the price sticker but was wondering if the text ones ever had the price sticker we've all come to love.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-04 19:26:22

*Thread Reply:* Are you talking about the first generation with the stepped part above the clip? Is there anything printed on them at all?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 19:39:52

*Thread Reply:* Yup first gen. There's a version that has an unmarked body and a version with 0.5mm Pentel P245 written on it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 20:00:03

*Thread Reply:* I have a picture of both in the ID book.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 20:02:38

*Thread Reply:* Yes. Have you ever seen the version with the text with a price sticker?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 20:21:24

*Thread Reply:* No, I have only seen them separate. In fact, I have only seen the one with text that I have in the book.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 22:58:48

*Thread Reply:* I currently own a Blue version 1, and I have Green and Brown ones coming from Taiwan, both without text, but having stickers.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 22:59:47

*Thread Reply:* Also coming from Taiwan, I have a P143, which is (I believe) the same thing as the version 2 P245 in 0.3mm.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 16:10:23

*Thread Reply:* Did someone win this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/255418480060

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 16:18:57

*Thread Reply:* 🙋‍♂️

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 16:22:03

*Thread Reply:* Good

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 16:22:20

*Thread Reply:* Were you looking for a Green PS45? https://www.ebay.com/itm/115260439984

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 16:33:00

*Thread Reply:* I was a while back but I purchased a complete set form that seller for $15 a piece outside of eBay.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 23:07:43

I just loaded the latest book: "_Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2022.05.pdf". It has a few changes. There are now 3 appendices. Appendix B & C are where I moved the Date Code pages and the ID pages. Appendix A is the Retailer Pentels. I moved all of the Disney pencils back there, along with several other Disney pencils I added. I also changed the Disney P565 to what was probably a more appropriate DP325, since it came out before the P565 and would therefore be based on the Japanese P325. There are currently 314 pages of Pentel pencils, plus 38 pages of Retailer Pentels.

Have at it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-04 23:09:10

As usual, it is in the Catalogs directory that is reachable by checking the properties of the #pentel channel Topic.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11, Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:00:33

I am assuming these are S55 pencils, but has anyone ever seen ones with Transparent Grips? http://shogei-bungu.com/?pid=7904406

shogei-bungu.com
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:04:08

Yes: there are 3 models with translucent grips: clear brown, clear black and clear blue. The stickers on mine say S55N-CE.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:06:30
🙌 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:07:45

How smooth are the ribs on the grip? Looks to be much smoother

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:14:33

Not as pronounced as the earlier models. More like the Pentel USA Classic Deluxe.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:15:25

With that 5 imprint, it looks late-70's, early-80's era.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:17:31

Definitely had a ‘newer era’ feel.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:24:35

What is the diameter of the cap on these @Kelvin Pang (drifand)? Yours looks much more purple than blue.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:37:16

Hmmmmm

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:40:48

As ‘blue’ as the blue XS…

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:48:17

White eraser, no pin. Cap ~5.5 mm? Definitely wider than the old versions. Cap is not interchangeable.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-05 22:14:11

*Thread Reply:* I did a quick measurement of some of my earlier S55s and they were about 5.25-5.5. The error is likely due to the crappy calipers on my inside desk. The last version of the S55 had a 6mm plus a smidge cap.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-05 22:47:05

*Thread Reply:* I found a picture of my blue translucent S55N-CC.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-06 00:15:07

*Thread Reply:* Is that what the sticker says? CC for Blue?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-06 01:35:56

*Thread Reply:* It says CC.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:54:41

Sticker on the Clear Brown. Some kind of logo for recycled materials?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-05 22:09:59

*Thread Reply:* Does the blue one have a model number of S55N-CC?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 22:17:52

*Thread Reply:* Well the clear black model’s sticker says S55N-CA. But my blue model didn't come with a sticker unfortunately.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-08 21:16:33

*Thread Reply:* Does anyone know when Pentel started using Recycology?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:57:45

These would be from around 1997 or just a little later. The YES logo goes with the Replacement Cores that won the Good Design Award in 1998.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-05 21:57:47

https://www.pentel.co.jp/special/9458/

ぺんてる株式会社
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:40:15

Want to get in on the Ground Floor Bidding? Starting at ¥500 for a PN3015 Technomatic. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/1041305372

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:40:44

Only to watch it climb higher than the Burj Dubai?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:41:32

I will bid just for fun

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:43:06

There is another one that I am going to try for. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1041288116

ヤフオク!
👍 Pearsonified
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-07 16:36:17

*Thread Reply:* 875s got my attention here

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-11 07:46:28

*Thread Reply:* I think I won. I got an email this morning that I had been outbid at ¥5700, but when I went to the page, it said I won at ¥5450, which is just below my bid of ¥5500. So, I am hoping I won this.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-11 08:41:04

*Thread Reply:* ¥5450 was indeed the winning bid, and I'll be happy to buy the worse-condition P875 from you in a few weeks 😁

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-11 09:16:22

*Thread Reply:* And I would be willing to sell it to you.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-11 09:33:08

*Thread Reply:* Ha, sweet! I was just joshin, but I'd love to have one of those 875s

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-11 12:12:56

*Thread Reply:* No, seriously, I have no problem selling you one of them.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 10:08:32

*Thread Reply:* Love it, I'll certainly take you up on that!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:43:15

One day I will tell my children "I once bid on this..."

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:43:26

Ya I saw that. Too bad on the condition

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:45:21

I am primarily bidding on the P875 pencils. I have the other 3.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-07 15:53:18

*Thread Reply:* too bad at least one of them doesn't have the price sticker

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-09 17:09:21

Even though I have some of these the gatherer in me wants this…

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m16729454465

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-09 17:11:15

*Thread Reply:* I don't need these but I think my subconscious knows the dopamine hit I'd get opening this up and holding this box in my hands.

2022-03-09 17:13:52

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, a box of them would be pretty cool

2022-03-09 17:14:27

*Thread Reply:* but then you’d have to do the same with all your others

2022-03-09 17:18:14

*Thread Reply:* And speaking of boxes, this is simply amazing: https://twitter.com/mechanicalmatic/status/1501047289195859971

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-09 17:25:03

*Thread Reply:* I quit. I can't even.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-09 17:25:22

*Thread Reply:* I'm glad I'm not on social media

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-09 19:27:51

I got a box of pencils recently and noticed that a few had hardness indicators printed on them. I have seen this before but now I am wonderimg if thus is anaftermarket change or did Pentel do this at the factory? Does anyone know?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 18:41:14

*Thread Reply:* I've seen this once but I don't recall on what pencil. I don't think it's one I have.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 14:22:05

Just in case you haven't seen it yet, you can now preorder the marvel smashes

https://kitecote.com/news/621983671dca3218586827ca

kitecote.com
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-10 14:30:31

*Thread Reply:* The Spiderman version looks like a Wonder Woman pencil with a spider on it. 3300 yen? Ca-ching!

👍 Ƶ
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 14:31:56

*Thread Reply:* Yes, because where is all of that Gold that Spider-man is wearing, that is on that pencil?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 14:36:11

*Thread Reply:* I don't collect Smashes. I think I have two.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 15:14:32

*Thread Reply:* I have 5, including an original pen and pencil set.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-10 16:17:14

*Thread Reply:* I have one but it doesn't say smash. I wonder if it is a fake🤪

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 16:47:13

*Thread Reply:* Shit dude it probably has a laser in it.

😂 Pearsonified
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 22:43:27

*Thread Reply:* Is that with the large Q1005 marking? It's probably the export version 👍:skintone2:

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-10 22:45:41

*Thread Reply:* I think Zebra did it better with their Marvel branded DelGuard Lx series. The glossy painted finish and ‘tech gimmick’ aesthetic went well together. These Smash? I'm staying away…

2022-03-11 22:20:01

Yamauchiya/Tenso delivery today.

🎉 Knocktype11
❤️ Knocktype11, Pearsonified
👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Heath
😍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-03-11 22:43:10

*Thread Reply:* Bonus

😍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 05:34:03

*Thread Reply:* Beautful!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 05:34:35

*Thread Reply:* Gotta have some patience and a steady hand to arrange them like that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 05:35:23

*Thread Reply:* And some ticky tack.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 05:36:01

*Thread Reply:* Or whatever you call it. Sticky tack. Tack n stick. Fun tack. Etc.

2022-03-12 05:36:32

*Thread Reply:* Any candy??

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 05:38:24

*Thread Reply:* If you use Zenmarket they throw the candy away.

👎 Heath, Dry
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 05:38:41

*Thread Reply:* You know they just eat it. Or bring it home to their kids.

2022-03-12 05:39:54

*Thread Reply:* @Dry how is the condition of the eraser holders? Much cracking?

2022-03-12 05:50:08

*Thread Reply:* And how are the yellow tips - any cracking? If I recall correctly, all of mine have cracks.

2022-03-12 14:49:39

*Thread Reply:* I made the order about a month ago when one of you fine gents sent the yamauchiya link for these and finally got around to verifying my tenso address about 2 weeks ago. Since I'd already been waiting a month I decided to spend the extra $10 to pay for DHL. Anyway a notification of delivery came through Friday afternoon and I was thinking it was too quick so wasn't really expecting them to be there. I took my 4yo to the post office yesterday morning and there they were... all packed in the popnpop box... which I was not expecting at all...

2022-03-12 14:50:58

*Thread Reply:* They're all in nice condition I have to say but there is cracking of the clip on all bar 4. I have a near complete uncracked set... except for the purple.

2022-03-12 14:51:27

*Thread Reply:* I need to check the yellow tips though Heath. Will do that this morning for you! 😉

2022-03-12 14:51:56

*Thread Reply:* I have of course removed all the erasers now.

2022-03-12 14:55:44

*Thread Reply:* I ended up taking the pic sitting on my daughter's bedroom floor. She was hassling me to play lego with her so thought I'd multi-task. The pic above was my first attempt and I was about to post to reddit when I decided to try standing them up to show the clips front on. It turns out the covering on the case actually supports them really nicely in the above configuration so I didn't need anything additional to make them sit up.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-03-12 14:56:30

*Thread Reply:* And yes... there was candy. I completely forgot about it. It's a really random assortment.

👍 Heath
2022-03-12 14:56:39

*Thread Reply:* I'll post a pic shortly.

2022-03-12 14:59:10

*Thread Reply:* 👍

2022-03-12 17:40:27

*Thread Reply:* DHL has surprised me a few times.

2022-03-12 17:49:29

*Thread Reply:* The yellow tips aren't cracked but the one that has the uncracked eraser sleeve has slight barrel cracking where the tip screws on. Is that what you meant?

Ironically the other ones with the cracked eraser sleeve have perfect barrels.

FML.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-12 20:13:49

*Thread Reply:* 3 sets. Totally can let your daughter use one of those sets.

2022-03-12 20:27:24

*Thread Reply:* Yep sorry, the barrel not the actual tip.

2022-03-13 19:51:47

Who picked up the black pd1065 from Yahoo JP?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:18:55

Me. Only cuz I wanted the pamphlet

👍 Heath, Dry
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:19:53

What was the link?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:20:01

Just want to see what I missed.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 10:00:28

*Thread Reply:* lol you were the one who outbid me

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 10:00:34

*Thread Reply:* We should probably coordinate to save ourselves some money

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 10:00:44

*Thread Reply:* I assumed you already had this one, or else I would not have bid 6999

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:25:56

Never knew this was referred to as a Technica II until now.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:26:40

I can see that at the top of the pamphlet, and it makes sense, because of the PD1055 Technica.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:31:16

I would definitely like to get a scan of the package/instructions to put up on the directory.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 22:08:07

*Thread Reply:* Will do.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-13 20:31:36

Nice catch!!

2022-03-14 02:42:13

Reasonable price given the scarcity. I was going to bid but forgot. Glad one of us got it.

❤️ sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 08:24:51

We have talked about the Red PD1065 possibly being an early version, but I don't think so. The following has pictures of all 3, and both the Red and Orange have the later larger JIS triangular sticker, while the Black has the earlier non-JIS triangle sticker. https://twitter.com/yagami1030/status/1023041040582881280

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 10:08:18

Oh snap... https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1042215621

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 11:19:11

*Thread Reply:* I would go in half on that with you.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 12:08:51

*Thread Reply:* I'd be all-in on this if I hadn't acquired a PG1804 for way too much in January

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 12:17:44

*Thread Reply:* Anyone else?

2022-03-15 21:03:43

*Thread Reply:* No sticker, but not a bad price: https://item.fril.jp/0995ecff260ac73de6e3451463fec1ba

フリマアプリ ラクマ
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:21:59

Does anyone have a Q604 pencil, that they could take a picture of, then a picture of the cartridge?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:41:55

*Thread Reply:* I have one and can take some pictures.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:43:19

*Thread Reply:* Is the Q604 the Pentel Injecto?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:44:11

*Thread Reply:* In this case, it feels much more intuitive to use that name rather than the model number

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:44:19

*Thread Reply:* Not true of all Pentels, obviously

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:44:45

*Thread Reply:* But certainly true for Kerry, PEL, CIL, Smash, GG1000, etc

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:45:58

*Thread Reply:* The Q604 is specifically the Popn'pop Injecto. So more intuitive in this case to use the model number.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:48:09

*Thread Reply:* I don't agree with your argument

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:48:13

*Thread Reply:* I'd call it the PnP Injecto

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:48:21

*Thread Reply:* Extremely clear and distinct model name

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:48:32

*Thread Reply:* as opposed to various executives with plastic grips and aluminum/steel barrels

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:49:37

*Thread Reply:* I'm only aware of 2 different grades of Injectos anyway

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:49:44

*Thread Reply:* "cheap" vs. "high end"

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:49:46

*Thread Reply:* cheap = Pn{

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:49:48

*Thread Reply:* PnP

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-14 13:50:04

*Thread Reply:* High end = the silver, gold, and black? I know it came in 2 or 3 versions

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 14:58:10

*Thread Reply:* Personally, it is more intuitive to go by the model number, then maybe mention a name.

2022-03-14 15:13:42

*Thread Reply:* Also, in this case, the Pop’npop is not the name of the product line as is with Kerry and Smash–there are numerous models with the Pop’npop marketing/branding. Ignoring colors, there are not numerous models of the Kerry and Smash.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 15:42:59

*Thread Reply:* Technically there are 4 models of the Kerry: P1035/7, which everyone is familiar with, then the P1135, P2135 & Q535.

👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 15:43:26

*Thread Reply:* This is why I use model numbers when talking about pencils.

2022-03-14 15:50:17

*Thread Reply:* Ah right of course

2022-03-14 16:08:14

*Thread Reply:* However, those are not the Kerry that most folks know.

2022-03-14 16:10:00

*Thread Reply:* Nobody wonders which model Kerry you get - you got a Kerry.

2022-03-14 16:10:42

*Thread Reply:* You just can’t say the same thing about the Pop’npops.

2022-03-14 16:14:01

*Thread Reply:* Saying you got a Pop’npop doesn’t mean anything and you’d have to clarify which model.

2022-03-14 19:01:31

*Thread Reply:* There's also a gray version on the Pentel injecto.

2022-03-14 19:03:02

*Thread Reply:* Gold and gray injecto available for about $600+

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-14 19:44:35

*Thread Reply:* I think model number is the best way to describe.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 07:29:51

*Thread Reply:* Even then, you sometimes have to put in a descriptor. Q535 - Kerry or Pop'npop? PD515 - Jetclic or Pop'npop? P245 - early or late?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 07:30:06

*Thread Reply:* Let's just say that Pentel's numbering system is kind of a mess.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 08:38:13

*Thread Reply:* No question about that. Also no question that for some pencils, using the model name would be ridiculous. For example, no one in their right mind would use a model number instead of simply saying "Mechanica."

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 08:39:33

*Thread Reply:* One recent annoyance has been their use of the Q prefix—it seems to apply to pencils that have no relationships whatsoever

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 08:40:18

*Thread Reply:* Q100X = smash, QX0X = sharplets...but anything where X > 5 = something else, such as Q604 (PnP Injecto)

slackbot
2022-03-15 08:40:19

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 08:41:08

*Thread Reply:* I at least feel like a lot of the pencils with the P prefix—particularly the executive models—show some relationship to one another

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 08:57:48

*Thread Reply:* Yes, it seems like the Q was a catchall

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 09:22:08

*Thread Reply:* What do you think the A prefix was supposed to signify?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 10:52:02

*Thread Reply:* Automatic Pencil?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:18:08

*Thread Reply:* I'm not sure that's true of ANY Pentels...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:18:18

*Thread Reply:* Crappy J-Club models have A prefixes on their model numbers

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:22:25

*Thread Reply:* Actually, there are what I consider 2 different lines of "A" pencils. The lower end A125, A45, etc. cheaper plastic pencils and the "relatively" higher end A21, A31, even the J-Club models.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-14 18:20:28

Q604

👍 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd), Pearsonified
2022-03-15 03:01:29

Regarding PD335... there are a few variants as you're probably aware. I'm trying to close out potential gaps in my collection and wanted to start a discussion that definitively (if possible) answers what colours were made.

  1. Pop'npops: blue, pink, yellow, green & purple transparent barrels. No charcoal?
  2. Coloured clips: charcoal, blue, pink, yellow and green. No popnpop label. Was there a purple?
  3. White clips: blue, pink, yellow, green & purple transparent barrels. No charcoal?
  4. Solid barrels: blue, orange, yellow and green. Was there a black? Marketing pencils don't count for the sake of core collections unless you can convince me otherwise. What do you guys think?
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 07:18:33

*Thread Reply:* As far as I know…

  1. No charcoal
  2. Yes there is a purple
  3. No charcoal with white pocket clip
  4. No. The only ones were promotional.

These assumptions have held true for quite some time but every once in a while we discover a flaw in our understanding. Which is what makes this fun.

Here's hoping we find more we don't know about 🍻

2022-03-15 16:32:26

*Thread Reply:* Thanks @sideKnocks (atxalais). It seems a bit strange that some series don't have charcoals/blacks. I wouldn't be surprised if we do come across them in the future.

My core collection always seems to be about 5 away from complete... every time I close a gap I find another one I'm missing.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 07:26:57

@Knocktype11 Someone has a FEW of the Disney Pencils you were going after a week or two ago. https://twitter.com/mechanicalmatic/status/1503347026649485313

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 07:31:33

*Thread Reply:* And there are two different color caps.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:19:25

*Thread Reply:* Thanks!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:15:10

I have a couple of questions for the Group Mind.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:17:59
  1. What all Pentel Pencils are Double Knocks? Off hand I can think of the following: • All PC Rolly & ClicSharp pencils (not including the AZ135 Rolly) • PSD5 • PWP15 • Unknown05
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:23:10

*Thread Reply:* PG101x (GG1000), PW2x (Flexfit).

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:25:38

*Thread Reply:* How are you defining double knock? The Orenz pencils could also count but they don't have automatic retract.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:26:37

*Thread Reply:* I consider the Orenz to be just Sliding Sleeves. Because you don't Double Knock, you just click once, and then start writing.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:27:00

*Thread Reply:* I agree on the PG101x. I have never used the PW2x pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:28:55

*Thread Reply:* Is the PN3015 Technomatic a Double Knock?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:47:05

*Thread Reply:* The PW2x and PW3x pencils have the same clip lock mechanism as the PG101x pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:47:59

*Thread Reply:* I found pictures of those online with the tip retracted

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:50:17

*Thread Reply:* How about the PC100x pencils?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:51:50

*Thread Reply:* It actually looks like all of the PW pencils are. I find images of the PW45 & PW55 are retractable. I don't know about the PWE25/27, though.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:52:53

*Thread Reply:* It looks to be the same as the PW25/27 & PW35/37, but I don't know for sure, and not many images online.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:56:53

*Thread Reply:* It looks like the AZ605 could be as well. I don't have one to confirm

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:59:12

*Thread Reply:* Not familiar with that pencil, and my Google-fu fails on it as well.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:00:13

*Thread Reply:* It is in the latest ID book page 78 ;-)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:04:53

*Thread Reply:* AX605, yes, it does look like a Double Knock

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:16:08

*Thread Reply:* My typo made it much harder than it should have been. Sorry!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:28:57

*Thread Reply:* AL405 Wow!: https://vppngocdung.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/AL405_new.jpg

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:43:09

*Thread Reply:* PL77 (ENERGIZE) https://pentel.ca/product/pl77

pentel.ca
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:19:03
  1. When did Pentel discontinue the Smash 0.3, 0.7 & 0.9 mm? I know they restarted the 0.3mm in 2019, but when did they originally kill them.
2022-03-15 12:52:00

*Thread Reply:* This might be a question for @Kelvin Pang (drifand)

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 19:49:16

*Thread Reply:* My crib notes say: Smash launched in 1987 as 0.5, 0.7 and 0.9. Won G-mark Good Design Award in 1987.

0.3 came out a bit later, maybe 1988, won Good Design ‘Long Life Design’ Award in 1989.

Ballpoint also came out in 1989 and won Good Design Award same year.

Notes from various Japanese interviews with the development team and news articles say:

• Sales was popular out of gate but bottomed out around 10-11 years later (1997-98) and production was supported in part by limited exports to Korea. We can summise that by then it was only the 0.5mm model.

• So, my theory is, because I've never seen the newer ‘triangular’ JIS sticker on the 0.7 and 0.9, only on the 0.3 and BP, it would seem that there was no unified line-up of all the lead widths at any one time.

• Perhaps the 0.7 and 0.9 were not popular in sales compared to the dedicated PG1000 drafting series… and were retired once stocks ran out around 89-90. I don't have any info of when 0.3 was retired, but I would venture it was around or before the sales of the series bottomed out in 97/98.

• Further data point: the blister pack version for general sales in department stores of the remaining 0.5 was discontinued in 2008/09, leading to expectations of pending withdrawal from the general catalog at that time. But fan reviews and Youtube videos resparked enthusiasm leading to Smash becoming No.1 for Amazon sales in 2013… etc etc.

👏 Heath
👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 20:11:36

*Thread Reply:* And those videos and reviews are probably what killed the Q1015 XS, which was to be the Smash replacement.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:22:18

PSD5 and PWP15 are the same thing; does Unknown05 refer to the executive/ML51(ish) style double knock?\

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:22:41

I agree that the pencils you mentioned are the only double knocks Pentel has ever made

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:24:06

Just used a Pianissimo for the first time, and it offers a VERY comfortable grip (I suppose the shape of the tip section, the use of plastic, and the position of the rubber grip are all just right to offer me the most secure grip I can recall)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 22:15:00

*Thread Reply:* I just recently got a few random pianissimos in a bulk buy. I've gone decades without owning any. Unfortunately these have rubber grips which means I have to be place them in a junk drawer. 😊

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:24:32

If you check out the latest Pentel book (v2022.05) on page 320, there is an unknown Pentel Double Knock.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:24:53

I know this is linked somewhere in the Slack, but I don't have it handy

2022-03-15 11:25:17

Right above in the channel heading

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:25:26

Thank you

👍 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:27:01

Yes, that's the one I'm describing

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:27:08

Follows the Pentel5 executive style

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:27:42

junction includes a special "gear" treatment in the plastic; my guess is this was done to strengthen the joint to protect against cracking

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:28:20

I have only seen this pencil once on that Twitter page in the Image Source.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:28:53

Is the A21 on page 10 not a double knock?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:29:07

One of those Pentel5 doulbe knocks was available on Mercari last summer for 13,800

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:29:25

I was too stupid to buy it (at the time, that would have been my most expensive pencil by a wide margin)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:30:16

That is just about half my most expensive pencil, although that was a custom Lindsey Wilson pencil

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:31:54

I don't think the A21/A31 is a double knock. I have purchased one, but it is still in Japan.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:33:15

I think I probably almost bought the one you bought

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:33:31

simply out of curiosity regarding the double knock 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:45:35

*Thread Reply:* Same reason I bought it.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:40:37

I'm in awe of your work on this catalog, Jimmy!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:43:44

I am reviewing items and looking to add a new field to the latest version. It will probably be out this week. I believe I have all of the Pentel pencils now, but there will probably be one or two more. The Disney pencils at the back will keep growing as I identify the model numbers (and preferably what they are based on), along with either a Burberry or Renoma that looks to be based on the A21. I have to go find that one again.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:46:48

After this, I will probably put it out in public on Reddit and probably my website. Distribute it to a few people.

2022-03-15 11:53:02

Regarding the PD325 in the book, I believe based off what @sideKnocks (atxalais) has said in the past, there are also red and purple versions… and someone has the purple one here but I can’t recall.

2022-03-15 19:33:55

*Thread Reply:* Did the pd325 come with a cap?

2022-03-15 19:57:54

*Thread Reply:* Looks like it did come with a white cap, but I can only find pics of the black version.

2022-03-15 20:03:01

*Thread Reply:* Roger that. The pic of the purple shows no cap. My black pd325 had no cap but I put a spare white cap on it and note that it is very loose... which is why I question whether it ever had one.

2022-03-15 20:13:24

*Thread Reply:* That’s interesting because I didn’t think there was much different other than the clip style. It’s not like the PD335 that has to be thicker because it’s plastic.

2022-03-15 20:14:00

*Thread Reply:* I’m assuming your lead size hole is the large one?

2022-03-15 20:17:50

*Thread Reply:* Large

👍 Heath
2022-03-15 20:21:39

*Thread Reply:* What’s going on with the clip? I guess I’ve never seen the back side–is it totally different than the 345?

2022-03-15 20:29:16

*Thread Reply:* Yes. Different collar and the clip is wider.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 20:32:00

*Thread Reply:* Yes it has its own cap. Slightly different from the pd345 cap.

2022-03-15 20:32:14

*Thread Reply:* Ah, right, and no eraser clip.

2022-03-15 20:33:43

*Thread Reply:* Yep, that too. The eraser is quite a tight squeeze in the collar.

2022-03-15 20:36:44

*Thread Reply:* Either of you check out the date code on those?

2022-03-15 21:12:05

*Thread Reply:* That's a no from me. I don't have the right tools to remove the clip.

2022-03-15 21:12:23

*Thread Reply:* Dangit re: the caps too.

2022-03-15 11:54:21

Regarding the White Clip PD335, you have red listed as an available color - is that true?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 14:30:56

*Thread Reply:* There isn't a red

2022-03-15 19:28:05

*Thread Reply:* Solid or transparent? I wonder if they're referring to the orange as a red?

2022-03-15 19:32:32

*Thread Reply:* Ignore my comment above... answer was further down the thread.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:54:38

Found it https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1639859912212200

} sideKnocks (atxalais) (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U021AFX2SM9)
2022-03-15 12:07:47

*Thread Reply:* Here’s the pic

2022-03-15 12:08:08

*Thread Reply:* of the purple

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-03-18 19:33:39

*Thread Reply:* Hey! That's my case and collection! (From a few years ago!)

😆 Heath
👍 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:55:38

RE: White Clip PD335 Red - I based it on the image in the book.

2022-03-15 11:56:22

I think that might be the orange.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:57:18

The botom one looks Orange to me.

2022-03-15 11:57:30

Yes, but that one is yellow I think.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 11:57:32

Have to check with @sideKnocks (atxalais). It is his picture

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 14:31:41

*Thread Reply:* No red. The orange one looks red in the picture.

Kinda looks red like the “red” pd1065. 😉

2022-03-15 19:35:26

*Thread Reply:* The solid barrel pd335 colours are the same as the pd345 solid barrels. There was no red in those either.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 20:19:33

*Thread Reply:* The only red I show now in my DB is for the PD349 and the PD325.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:21:42

Jimmy, I also forgot the Technica-X as a Pentel double-knock

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:21:59

I actually think these internals show the most promise as the basis for future bespoke double knocks

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 12:22:48

And I have the version of the Technica-X shown on page 239 in red

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 15:49:19

In the Pentel Pencil book, I am adding a field called Tags. I currently have the following: • #Automatic • #Cap • #DoubleKnock • #Excalibur • #FF-ZZZZZZ (Form Factor - I am removing as a separate field) • #ForFilm • #GoodDesign • #Multipen • #Recycology What other tags would you use?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-15 18:06:54

*Thread Reply:* What is the goal for the tags? Is it all of the priperties or just unusual properties? Delta from P200? Is the goal searchable tags or a full specification?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 18:41:32

*Thread Reply:* Primarily searches in the PDF.

2022-03-15 19:52:39

*Thread Reply:* #Sideadvance? #Vintage? #Nogrip

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 20:17:38

*Thread Reply:* #cartridge <— Injecto

0.4

shaker <— there is ONE such model at least… JOLT?

twisteraser ?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 20:36:21

*Thread Reply:* How about

ergonomic <— for Selfit, Ergonomix, Transition, and other chunky grip models

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 15:52:05

#sideknock or #sideclick

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-15 16:04:41

I think I would go with #SideKnock, since I am already using #DoubleKnock.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 16:42:10

#PipeSlide

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-15 16:43:09

I was also thinking about "retractable" vs. "double knock" earlier today; might be nice to indicate retractable on pencils that support it (honestly not clear if Pentel ever did this; I think some of the more hideous J-Clubs might have had retractable tips)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 09:12:45

Does someone have an AS305/7 Jolt? This is a Shaker pencil that also looks like it might be a Double Knock as well. I also just found out that this was initially released in Japan as the "Shake" in 2010. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m61977514271 https://penstory.tistory.com/102

Writing tools DB
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 10:39:17

*Thread Reply:* I've seen this a couple of times in a local stationery shop. Picked it up and gave it a shake etc… color and quality wise it felt a bit cheap and gaudy.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 11:31:07

*Thread Reply:* Do you remember if it was the Shake or Jolt name on it? Just trying to determine if the Shake name is still around.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 12:09:43

*Thread Reply:* It was Jolt here in Singapore.

2022-03-16 18:35:57

*Thread Reply:* I have four A305 Jolt obtained in June 2010 from Cult Pens UK.

2022-03-16 18:37:37

*Thread Reply:* Is Jolt/Shake still going? I thought it was discontinued?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 20:52:30

*Thread Reply:* It is in the latest 2022 French and Mexican catalogs

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 20:52:57

*Thread Reply:* A lot of others stopped in the mid-10’s

2022-03-16 21:44:14

*Thread Reply:* I always liked Jolt. It looks cool. Made in China. Be interesting to know if it was made by Pentel or a buy-in from an OEM.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 14:38:56

I found this on Mercari and wondered if anyone has seen it before. An A125 marked as SharPentel, instead of Sharplet-2. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m91766524521 And, I know, I know, Slackbot, @Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-16 14:46:27

*Thread Reply:* This is a new one on me. I have seen the SharPentel name used for the A115, and Sharplet without the A125 without the "-2".

slackbot
2022-03-16 14:46:28

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-16 14:50:22

*Thread Reply:* Found this on the web: https://ameblo.jp/staedler-rotring/entry-11577867045.html

ステーショなり!!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 15:00:22

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, it was a first for me as well. I was wondering if anyone knew when this was done.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-16 15:13:09

*Thread Reply:* Based only on vague conjecture I would say early 80s. The US 1982 catalog has the A125 without any printing on the side and no indication in the catalog of a name. It could be that they were still deciding what to call it inside and outside Japan. It would be great if we had more Japanese catalogs.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 16:00:08

*Thread Reply:* I just purchased one off Mercari. Doesn't do us much good, as it is one we already have a PDF of, though (2019-2020 Japan). But it will be my second physical catalog.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 16:00:58

*Thread Reply:* I have seen mentions of older catalogs on Twitter and other sources, and tried contacting them, but no such luck so far.

slackbot
2022-03-16 14:38:57

@Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

2022-03-16 15:04:12

PD505 up on Yahoo JP. Going cheap! https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1042807582

ヤフオク!
2022-03-16 15:13:29

The reality is that it’s probably going to go higher. I wish there was a Buy Now on this.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 16:00:15

Going cheap? Outrageous already.

2022-03-16 18:08:47

*Thread Reply:* Sorry... forgot the /s

2022-03-16 18:09:10

*Thread Reply:* That's more than I paid for both of mine.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 19:16:14

*Thread Reply:* They are easily worth $3500-4000 a piece.

👎 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 19:16:17

*Thread Reply:* Easily

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 19:16:21

*Thread Reply:* All day long

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 19:16:24

*Thread Reply:* 😉

2022-03-16 21:29:17

*Thread Reply:* For sure. That's what I tell my wife and I'm sure she believes me.

2022-03-16 16:02:46

There's also a mercari jp listing for the PD505. You can use another third party service to purchase it.

2022-03-16 16:29:59

Other than Neokyo, who else does Mercari that you all have used? Neokyo is not taking Mercari orders for some reason.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 16:40:21

TwoTreeTeam but I don't think they are allowing requests for a few more days

2022-03-16 17:02:14

same with ZenMarket, although the error says they don’t like the seller.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 17:46:45

Neokyo does take Mercado, just not through the automated system. From the Dashboard, go to Create, then Buy Request.

2022-03-16 18:27:21

Yeah, that’s how I did it but they’re not taking any Mercari orders right now.

2022-03-16 18:29:33

Have you guys tried using fromjapan.co.jp? I think it's on the expensive side but I've used it successfully before.

2022-03-16 18:45:39

We’ll see if it makes it past the 3 days and go from there. Maybe the auction won’t go to the moon.

2022-03-16 21:53:07

Total Lie...... Well, deliberately misleading. I just noticed this on Pentel USA website - "We take pride in our craftsmanship. Every Pentel mechanical pencil, lead, eraser, pen and correction fluid is manufactured by our own factories. No other manufacturer can match this commitment to manufacturing excellence. In fact, Pentel is the only writing instrument company to ever receive the Deming Prize for recognition of the highest standard of quality." Very misleading "our own factories", suggesting they don't buy huge amounts of product from outside manufacturers.

2022-03-16 22:00:03

I found it really quite surprising when I asked Kotobuki about the leads they put in their pencils. They said they primarily bought from Chitose, but a bit of reciprocal business they bought about 10 - 20% of their leads from Pentel. So I asked did Pentel specify that their own leads had to go in the Pentel brand pencils that Kotobuki were making. They laughed and said "No, Pentel have never specified anything about the leads." They followed up with how they didn't understand Pentels claim on lots of those retail packages that have a pencil plus a container of lead refills, saying things like "filled with Ain leads" because they never put Ain leads in them when they made them.

😆 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 22:45:47

Is this one of you bidding on this? If not, I am going to try for it. It is currently in the book as Unknown Model 01. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x1042652839

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-17 02:22:11

*Thread Reply:* I am watching a handful of pieces from this seller. Haven't decided my max bids yet.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-17 12:39:10

*Thread Reply:* I am watching several from them as well. I will be bidding on these also: https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=w1042642690 https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=q1042652899

zenmarket.jp
zenmarket.jp
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 22:47:28

Or this one https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f1042813233

ヤフオク!
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-17 00:36:28

*Thread Reply:* I have a bid on this one. I did see the picture and sent a message but have not heard back about it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-17 10:55:59

*Thread Reply:* I got a response to my query about this. The last picture of the S305 was not supposed to be there.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 22:57:54

Briefly considered but not going for it. One of the listings seems ambiguous? There's a pic of another pencil included… a Pentel 11 I think.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-16 23:00:13

Yes, I was noticing that on the second auction I listed

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-18 09:46:25

ayooooo 👀 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g1042648003

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-18 09:47:07

*Thread Reply:* Oh yea I'm watching this one. I only have the blue and yellow

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-18 09:49:06

I love these colorful vignettes within a larger collection

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-19 07:20:26

*Thread Reply:* I only have the blue and I've always meant to pair it with a vintage Geha ‘Jeans’ ballpoint that has a similar clip :-)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-18 20:29:44

Fun-Fun Party - Pop'npop Pinky pop FA101. 😍

If I had more than one I'd love to have this one lying around to use.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-18 23:48:41

*Thread Reply:* I didn't think that Pentel sold the Pop'npop in the US.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-19 21:12:21

Latest version of the Pentel Pencil Identification Book v2022.06 is now up.

🙏 Heath
2022-03-20 06:55:16

Is today the day? Will I finally get a PD505? We’ll find out in an hour!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:03:37

*Thread Reply:* Good luck. Let's keep this thing under 3 bills.

👍 Heath
2022-03-20 07:07:00

*Thread Reply:* That would be great.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:44:21

*Thread Reply:* 4 bids so far. I'm surprised.

2022-03-20 07:45:43

*Thread Reply:* 2min left

2022-03-20 07:47:18

*Thread Reply:* 20s

2022-03-20 07:48:05

*Thread Reply:* Got it!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:48:05

*Thread Reply:* Boom!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:48:10

*Thread Reply:* What was your max bid?

2022-03-20 07:48:23

*Thread Reply:* 31000

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:48:30

*Thread Reply:* Wow

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:48:34

*Thread Reply:* You were going for it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 07:49:11

*Thread Reply:* Congrats!

👊 Heath, Dry
2022-03-20 07:49:20

*Thread Reply:* I didn’t want it to go back and forth so I figured I should go high

2022-03-20 07:49:48

*Thread Reply:* and discourage the other bidder when they do 500

2022-03-20 07:50:14

*Thread Reply:* but they didn’t even counter my last bid

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-20 08:15:19

*Thread Reply:* Based off of your previous comments it appears that there were only two bidders. That surprises me.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-21 10:42:13

*Thread Reply:* Nice score!

2022-03-22 04:17:09

*Thread Reply:* There's a fresh listing up for a PD505 starting at 25k JPY.

2022-03-22 06:04:30

*Thread Reply:* I saw that! I wonder how many they have.

2022-03-22 06:05:50

*Thread Reply:* They have it on Mercari again too.

2022-03-22 06:40:29

*Thread Reply:* Can't blame them for selling additionals. Will be interesting to see if it sells.

2022-03-22 07:43:04

*Thread Reply:* Nope, and yes, I’m curious where it’ll go. I’m sure the other bidder is excited to have another opportunity!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-21 22:12:59

*Thread Reply:* Nope. Watching only on this one.

2022-03-22 04:19:54

*Thread Reply:* Not I. Cool pencil though. Good luck!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 09:32:42

*Thread Reply:* This one will go for at least $75

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 09:32:57

*Thread Reply:* I need a PG7

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-21 20:56:33

There's a huge swath of vintage Pentel that I have rationalized away… and this is one of them 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-21 20:57:58

No. I already have one of those. I am looking for the Silver band PG5.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-21 21:21:25

So how many of us are bidding on this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/175208578290

eBay
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-21 22:15:25

*Thread Reply:* Nope. Saving my money for a [Rare ✮ Vintage ✮] Pentel Gomdale QE305 Mechanical Pencil🤪

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 09:33:28

*Thread Reply:* I'm in and going all the way

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 09:33:45

*Thread Reply:* Closest analog on YAJ/Mercari is ¥35,000

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 09:34:31

*Thread Reply:* But how does some random woman in Kansas City end up with a PSD5?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 10:17:31

*Thread Reply:* And why am I not that woman?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-30 14:11:21

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified Did you win the auction?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-30 14:11:57

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 Did you win the Gomdale QE305? There is one currently up on Yahoo Auctions JP, https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j683157759

ヤフオク!
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-30 14:17:03

*Thread Reply:* @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) no! I thought the askimg price on that one on ebay (over US$100) was pretty ridiculous for a twist erase. The zany face emoji 🤪 was used to indicate a joke. I don't collect twist erase pencils.™

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-30 14:51:12

*Thread Reply:* Indeed I did! Based on YAJ and Mercari pricing, I was willing to go up to about $225 for that specimen

😀 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
2022-03-21 21:26:17

Watching only

2022-03-21 21:26:25

Looks really nice

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-21 21:28:04

Not I

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-21 22:15:54

Will leave it to ya… good luck!

2022-03-22 04:21:36

So who amongst us has a PD515 Pop'npop? Just curious...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 05:44:46

*Thread Reply:* Only George

2022-03-22 06:39:17

*Thread Reply:* So chances are good we'll each find one then.

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 06:40:56

*Thread Reply:* Oh yeah there's plenty out there. We just have to wait. Makes it fun and keeps us young at heart.

2022-03-22 06:42:08

*Thread Reply:* I wonder how many people have done a clean out and just thrown them away.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 06:45:07

*Thread Reply:* I'm sure plenty were used and abused but there always seems to be someone who comes across a box stored away somewhere. Like that lady that found several unused Technoclics in a drawer in NY.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 06:46:00

*Thread Reply:* It's a pretty cheap pencil and most people wouldn't know that there's 4-5 people on the planet that would want it. 😆

🙌 Ƶ, Dry
😆 Heath, Dry
2022-03-22 11:12:16

*Thread Reply:* Do you think the metal tip was used on any other model? It seems like they wouldn’t do a metal tip just for this one pencil??

2022-03-22 15:11:57

*Thread Reply:* 4-5 very good and patient people with an extremely keen interest in a specific pencil made ~30 years ago. If they don't know they really should. /s

🤣 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 09:44:04

🚨 ROLLY PC25 🚨 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n1040966763

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 10:17:12

*Thread Reply:* Two of these went for under ¥6500 recently

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 10:17:21

*Thread Reply:* And that one on YAJ is down from ¥11,000

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 16:37:28

ok who did it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 16:38:01

*Thread Reply:* Aww man not I.

2022-03-22 16:38:15

*Thread Reply:* Not me, although I thought about it

2022-03-22 16:39:48

*Thread Reply:* Wait, that’s not what I thought it was, this is: https://www.ebay.com/itm/334239506390

eBay
2022-03-22 16:42:53

*Thread Reply:* $33 is lot better than $80

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 17:02:40

*Thread Reply:* IT's the same pencil—the Clicsharp was an American release

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-22 17:02:51

*Thread Reply:* Japanese model number: PC205 American model number: PC255

2022-03-22 17:11:57

*Thread Reply:* Right, I just meant that wasn’t the auction I thought

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 21:51:56

*Thread Reply:* Rolly is a ‘one and done’ deal for me. Somehow ended with 2 rollers and 1 mp over the years and that's all I need. I think of it as the civilian version of a GG1000.

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 21:35:44

I'm seeing a lot of PS315 and PS523 on eBay lately. Odd.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-22 22:23:08

*Thread Reply:* Nothing I don't have but this seller has some decent listings

https://ebay.com/usr/dwellering

ebay.com
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-23 10:30:25

*Thread Reply:* This seller purged a bunch of Pilots last year, and I bought them all

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-23 13:44:54

Pentel Middle Five Deluxe. I was looking at some pencils in boxes last night. Google translate on the label gave the name but no model number. It is the same size as a ML5 but is about 3-4 grams heavier.

🙌 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-23 13:46:46

*Thread Reply:* I have one of those

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-23 14:03:21

*Thread Reply:* I almost bought another one recently because I thought it was lost. But it was in a bin in the garage with some other missing pencils. It is a real step up from the ML5 everything is metal and it has a solid feel.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-23 14:09:34

*Thread Reply:* Jimmy bought 2 recently after I stumbled across mine.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-23 14:13:46

*Thread Reply:* I like the pattern on the ring too.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-23 14:44:32

*Thread Reply:* It is hard to find anything not to like about it unless you have really meaty paws.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-23 14:47:19

*Thread Reply:* I figured the same thing. I just received mine yesterday.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-23 15:25:12

*Thread Reply:* I just bought two of these as well

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-23 15:43:04

*Thread Reply:* You guys are driving up the prices on these.🤪

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-23 15:45:34

*Thread Reply:* not I

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-23 23:00:27

I have a question about the layout of 3 pencil models in the latest _Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2022.06. For the AL15/AL17/AL19 (p59), AL25T/AL27T/AL29T (p61) and AL27RD (p62); should these be broken into a Version 1 & a Version 2, based on the radical design change, such as I did for the PD340 Series, Versions 1 & 2 (pp188 & 189)?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-24 00:57:00

*Thread Reply:* There were three generations (discounting the razzle-dazzle edition which I think differs only in paint on the body. The first version has the dimpled grip and was made in the USA. The second version has the gooey rubber grip and was made in China. The last version has the ribbed grip and was made in Taiwan. On page 61 there are versions 1 and 3 and on page 62 there are version 1 and 2. It is worth noting that the bottom pencils on both pages are RD. The top two on page 62 are not RD. I posted about them on reddit a while back: https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/r5h9t2/pentel_icy_al25_generations/

reddit
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-24 00:58:29

*Thread Reply:* I have not looked too closely at the AL15s but they seem to be similar.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-24 01:23:31

*Thread Reply:* The AL15MN is weird and should be on a different page. The AL15 also had a ribbed grip version.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 10:30:44

At first my eyes saw this as a purple 350. I said "hold up" out loud.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275229825577?trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D390e33e89b604982b92140c259c2c5df%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D334339004394%26itm%3D275229825577%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DPentel&trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&trkparms=pageci%3A3734e278-ab87-11ec-87c9-e238d23bb6e7%7Cparentrq%3Abc8c2d5517f0a77d17f2f3d0ffff28e4%7Ciid%3A1|https://www.ebay.com/itm/275229825577?trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26alg[…]3bb6e7%7Cparentrq%3Abc8c2d5517f0a77d17f2f3d0ffff28e4%7Ciid%3A1

eBay
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 10:32:51

*Thread Reply:* ebay comin in kinda hot with the Pentels recently

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-24 15:16:30

*Thread Reply:* E is Brown

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 15:24:16

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I know.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 15:24:42

*Thread Reply:* The first thing I saw was the photo and I was like whatttttt

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-24 16:10:50

*Thread Reply:* I could see that! The pictures are total crap. The colors are all messed up and tge called it maroon.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 14:22:07

Finally purchased my first Sharplet 500. And one I didn't suspect existed. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m84174171985

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 14:24:04

*Thread Reply:* nice! I never ran across that one

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 14:39:56

*Thread Reply:* Until I looked deeper, I thought it would be a Q543, but no, it is a Q573.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 14:43:01

*Thread Reply:* I find nothing else about it on the web

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:18:45

*Thread Reply:* D'oh! I was gonna get this and surprise y'all

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:18:53

*Thread Reply:* oh wellk

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:19:03

*Thread Reply:* I like to wait til the end of my packing time to get Mercari stuff

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:19:13

*Thread Reply:* that way, sellers have dropped as low as possible for my particular timing

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:19:47

*Thread Reply:* Anyway, I think this piece is cooler than about 95% of most collection

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:19:59

*Thread Reply:* And yes—I'm a sucker for the pencils you never see from major manufacturers

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:20:05

*Thread Reply:* not advertising runs (like the white PD345)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:20:13

*Thread Reply:* straight up production pencisl you just never see

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:28:41

*Thread Reply:* I do as well. I also , in 2 different lots, picked up 2 different A125 Sharplets, not Sharplet -2

slackbot
2022-03-24 19:28:42

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:29:36

*Thread Reply:* This is my last group of items to close out my Buyee lot for this time.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-24 19:36:49

*Thread Reply:* I love that time near the end where you pick up a few you weren't sure you were gonna get

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-24 20:06:12

*Thread Reply:* There is absolutely nothing on the web about this piece. Kinda like the purple and red pd325

slackbot
2022-03-24 14:22:08

@Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-25 12:27:29

How much is a PD515 Jetclic worth? (White with black clicker)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 12:29:37

*Thread Reply:* Unused - $30-40 for a non-Clic specific collector $60-75 for a Clic specific collector

👍 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 12:29:44

*Thread Reply:* This is just my opinion

2022-03-26 06:04:57

*Thread Reply:* I'd say that's fair

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 13:08:02

Figured I'd share with the rest of the group. Heath and I were talking about the Chill Time Orenz series.

I know we mostly talk about vintage pieces but look how good these look next to the P35 Hues

❤️ Heath, Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-25 13:39:29

*Thread Reply:* If you include the P35s then it is half-vintage. Those are excellent colors. The Orenz pencils don't get enough love.

2022-03-25 13:49:26

*Thread Reply:* The colors are just so good!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-25 13:18:57

Absolutely love those new Orenz's

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-25 13:19:05

rakuten? JetPens?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 13:20:27

*Thread Reply:* I think I got them from Tokyo pen shop. I'd have to search for the receipt

2022-03-25 13:24:38

*Thread Reply:* eBay

2022-03-25 13:25:37

*Thread Reply:* and only $7.50 ea

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-25 13:25:44

*Thread Reply:* solid

2022-03-25 13:25:47

*Thread Reply:* May take the rest of the year to arrive

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 14:08:41

*Thread Reply:* you found some on ebay for 7.50?

2022-03-25 14:11:06

*Thread Reply:* Yes

2022-03-25 14:11:46

*Thread Reply:* https://www.ebay.com/itm/143555862370

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 14:12:17

*Thread Reply:* ahh. I searched for Orenz Chill Time

2022-03-25 14:13:15

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I wasn’t getting much for that

2022-03-25 14:14:12

*Thread Reply:* That seller has them all, but getting low on stock

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 19:25:07

*Thread Reply:* I wish I would have grabbed a 2nd set at the time.

2022-03-25 19:44:11

*Thread Reply:* I also had to get this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/264981331304

eBay
2022-03-25 19:44:51

*Thread Reply:* Clear Red and I know you’ve written off movies, but reminds me of Jessica Rabbit.

2022-03-25 19:45:38

*Thread Reply:* of Who Framed Roger Rabbit of course

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 20:00:57

*Thread Reply:* Oh man the Foxy line.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 20:01:10

*Thread Reply:* That was a questionable edition by Pentel

2022-03-26 13:00:02

*Thread Reply:* Definitely. Which is why I just picked up the latest set for $20.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 17:47:36

*Thread Reply:* That's a set to keep hidden out of sight. Poor choice by Pentel.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 14:10:38

Does anyone on here have a Graph II?

2022-03-25 14:24:55

*Thread Reply:* I do have one but the tip is broken

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-25 14:38:13

*Thread Reply:* Is this tip different from all other Pentel tips? (I have to admit I don't know what the Graph II looks like)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 15:01:06

*Thread Reply:* Have you tried replacing the tip with a P205 tip? I know the Graph and the PG5 use the same tip.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 15:01:48

*Thread Reply:* The Graph II is a precursor to the PG5.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-25 15:39:47

*Thread Reply:* Does it have the old logo or the new?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 16:20:14

*Thread Reply:* Another aspect of the Graph II (or Graph 2) is that the part that holds the lead indicator tight is mirrored silver, unlike the later frosted silver on the PG5. Here is a photo with the Graph 2 in the middle.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-25 16:36:19

*Thread Reply:* identical to a PG5 otherwise?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 16:44:10

*Thread Reply:* Minor differences, and I don't know what the internals are like. I have 3 different PG5 pencils with the oldest being VERY different internals from current models. Even the latter two are incompatible. I suspect the Graph II is closer to the early PG5 and early versions of the Graph. The Graph I own is closer to the latter two PG5 pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 16:46:32

*Thread Reply:* Here is a full image of the Graph II. I have yet to find one that shows the cutouts, which I believe (but could be wrong), that shows the Graph II text.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 16:48:43

*Thread Reply:* What would you call that piece that holds the lead indicator in place on these, and the clip in place on the Accu Graphs?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-25 18:01:44

*Thread Reply:* I would tend to call these things extenders. Weren't the first ones to have them the MECs? Iirc they were used to hold the tip protector.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-25 18:44:29

*Thread Reply:* Hey @Ƶ can you take a picture of the cutout?

2022-03-26 11:38:29

*Thread Reply:* What do you mean the “cutout”?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 15:08:23

*Thread Reply:* There are two indentations that have text in them. If this is like the PG5 pencils, one side says PENTEL above Japan and a number. The other side is what we are looking to see. Does it say Graph or Graph II?

2022-03-26 17:05:04

*Thread Reply:* It's says graph

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-26 18:52:39

*Thread Reply:* So the differences between Graph and Graph II are:

  1. Longer grip section
  2. Lead Hardness indicator
  3. Shiny extender
  4. Longer lead cap
  5. Lead cap has built-in cleanout rod
  6. The top of the body extends under the extender. Is there anything else?
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-26 18:59:44

*Thread Reply:* I have something like the one in Z's picutre. The extender is not quite as shiny. It also says Graph in the cut out. It has two cutouts. It is still using the old logo.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 20:14:04

*Thread Reply:* I have one of those as well. I am more interested in the differences between the Graph II and the PG5.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 20:19:43

*Thread Reply:* On mine, you have to remove the lead reservoir from the front. It has two sets of threads, the front one is the standard M4-0.5 that screws into most Pentel tips, and a larger M5-0.5 that screws into the body.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 20:20:14

*Thread Reply:*

➕ Knocktype11
👍 Knocktype11
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 20:23:11

*Thread Reply:* So, if what I, Z and Knocktype11 have is actually a Graph II, then the difference is actually in the internal structure, which makes sense, more than just a "shiny extender".

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 20:26:48

*Thread Reply:* The main difference here looks to be that where a PG5 has a connector (the white piece, with the lead indicator sticker) that unscrews, allowing the lead reservoir to be removed out the back, like most Pentel pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 21:14:35

*Thread Reply:* I am going to go with this as defining the Graph II, unless we find some more information to the contrary. "This pencil is the immediate precursor to the PG5. The differences between the Graph II and the PG5 are primarily internal, with the area marked "Connector" above being a molded piece of the body on the Graph II and a separate white piece (with a sticker listing the lead sizes attached) on the PG5. A second major difference is that on the Graph II, the lead reservoir screws into the front (with the larger thread, seen above), and on the PG5, it drops in through the back, and is held in place by the chrome tip."

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-26 22:04:51

*Thread Reply:* Mine looks like this vertical one above which has the internals which screw into the the body. It is tighter than I can move with my fingers.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-26 22:54:21

*Thread Reply:* Yes, the connector is screwed in tightly on that. All of the PG# series, including the PMG (or at least the two I own) are all variations of the second vertical picture I posted above.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-25 14:12:30

I need a good shot of it, and the cutout for the book. That is all I know that I am missing, although it seems I find a new (old) pencil daily, that I didn't know about.

2022-03-28 06:48:30

So there is still a PD505 up on yahoojp. Did it not sell or is it a new one?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 06:50:48

*Thread Reply:* It's a new one. Looks like the seller has at least 3.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 06:50:55

*Thread Reply:* One sold to Heath here

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 06:51:24

*Thread Reply:* The others aren't getting any bids on YJP or purchases from Mercari.

2022-03-28 07:07:56

*Thread Reply:* I didn't catch what the 2nd one went for, did you?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 07:11:25

*Thread Reply:* I don't think it sold

2022-03-28 07:28:46

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, it’s still up

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 07:30:11

*Thread Reply:* Heath will buy another. I can feel it.

2022-03-28 07:33:46

*Thread Reply:* I’ve spent my allowance this month, so will have to wait until next week.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 07:34:32

*Thread Reply:* Friday it is.

😆 Heath, Dry
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 07:56:56

*Thread Reply:* Go for it! Good luck!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-28 15:14:14

*Thread Reply:* Heck, that one doesn't have a cap. I picked this one up the other day for a "Few Yen More".

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-28 16:22:45

*Thread Reply:* It's a shame that cap is not easily replaced...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:37:20

*Thread Reply:* I saw that. Before my coffee hit I was telling myself to just buy it. Um no.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:37:26

*Thread Reply:* I have black and green

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:38:48

*Thread Reply:* I am thinking about it, since the only Sharplet 500 I have is the Q573.

slackbot
2022-03-29 07:38:49

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 does not collect Sharplets!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:40:40

*Thread Reply:* 3 have “watched” it since it hit. That's me, you, and one other person so far.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:43:14

*Thread Reply:* I have a couple of extra green ones sitting at buyee warehouse. I'll hook you up with one if you want.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:46:33

*Thread Reply:* Did you buy the set of 3? The Blue and 2 Greens?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:51:29

*Thread Reply:* Yes sir

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:51:41

*Thread Reply:* I didn't realize there was a blue in there until just now

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:58:40

*Thread Reply:* I don't have green

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:59:07

*Thread Reply:* I don't even know what all I have—gotta check the Toolbox™ and see

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:59:24

*Thread Reply:* I love these 500s and 501s

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 07:59:37

*Thread Reply:* I am a sucker for plastic grips (because they actually work)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 08:00:17

*Thread Reply:* I don't know what I have and I probably have less than half of what you have.

I also have stuff in storage from years ago I need to go find.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 08:00:45

*Thread Reply:* Oooh, def go find that

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 08:00:51

*Thread Reply:* nothing better than those kinds of treasures

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 08:01:28

*Thread Reply:* My first pencil collection from elementary school is also in there some where

2022-03-29 08:51:38

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified I’m a little surprised you don’t have them all in a spreadsheet. With so many, how do you keep track??

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 09:19:40

*Thread Reply:* I acquired pencils so fast that my entire life would have been spent on the spreadsheet

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 09:19:47

*Thread Reply:* But it gets worse—now i have to make web pages for each pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 09:22:18

*Thread Reply:* As far as keeping track, I have everything displayed in my Toolbox™, and I also have a good sense for which pencils I have and which I don't

👍 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-29 09:22:34

*Thread Reply:* With that said, the collection has certainly reached the point of becoming unwieldy

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 09:32:52

*Thread Reply:* Unwieldy™

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-29 10:46:51

*Thread Reply:* I am watching the Q545 also. So that is everyone?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 10:48:29

*Thread Reply:* Yep. I'm out. Down to the 2 of you

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 10:48:34

*Thread Reply:* I'm just watching for fun

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-29 15:37:37

*Thread Reply:* If Jimmy really wants it I will bow out. I have a few of the redish Q545s already and everyone knows that I don't collect shárpléts.

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-29 15:43:03

*Thread Reply:* I was just posting it. I wasn't really going for it now.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-30 10:31:55

*Thread Reply:* Okay. I am bidding on it but not too high.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:44:47

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 did you get this one?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:45:30

*Thread Reply:* It closes in two minutes

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:45:43

*Thread Reply:* Ok making sure you're on it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:46:03

*Thread Reply:* I saw a second bid and was hoping you were closing in

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:48:13

*Thread Reply:* Good job. Not a bad price

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:48:49

*Thread Reply:* thanks! It is a nice one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:49:37

*Thread Reply:* It's no Mickey Excalibur but it's still nice.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-04 20:52:03

*Thread Reply:* You have the market cornered on those.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:35:36

I think imma get this orange one

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:35:44

I don't have any Technica IIs

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:36:01

you're going to wait till it hits Buyee?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:36:23

No other options if I don't want to pay any more than I already am

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:36:47

what other option? I want to get something from Mercari that's not on Buyee yet

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:36:51

Mercari makes Chrome shit the bed all the time. Super annoying

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:37:04

I mean, you can pay some Japanese chick 20%

😆 Heath
2022-03-31 09:37:05

I’ve noticed this too

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:37:12

um no

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:37:27

exactly

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:37:38

oh you said you are going to try to wait till it hits Buyee

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:37:39

gotcha

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:37:40

yea

2022-03-31 09:37:50

Where’s your sense of adventure?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:39:25

Aight who is gonna ge tthis and sell me one? https://jp.mercari.com/item/m68971390398

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 09:42:18

not me

2022-03-31 10:04:06

*Thread Reply:*

😂 Pearsonified
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:06:44

*Thread Reply:* Lawd a'mercy

2022-03-31 10:24:33

Long post warning.

Wasn’t expecting it but I got my PD505 yesterday!

I get it unwrapped and find what appear to be stress fractures or deep scratches all along the top half, GAH! I immediately start crying, I mean trying to figure out how extensive the damage is and if it’s really damage at all–please pencil gods! I try to wipe it off with a damp towel but not even dirt is coming off. Oh man, this is so jive.

And then I notice mold lines down the entire length of the body... wha?? How have I never noticed these before in @sideKnocks (atxalais) pictures? Do I have a different version? I go look and sure enough, they’re there but look like reflections! Ok, maybe Pentel formed two separate halves of metal and joined them! Cool... but nope!

Here’s where things get really really interesting.

The scratches/cracks are under the clip and all around it. Half expecting it to fall apart, I take the clip off to get a better view and there it is–a small chunk missing from what appears to be chrome plated black ABS! There’s even a date code of 0H stamped in and it’s a narrow hole, so 1980 or 1990. Injection molded plastic! Duh! The mold lines along the sides are the same mold lines as on the regular PD34x! Are these scratches just chrome plating peeling off? What is going on here?!?

Sidebar: This actually makes so much sense because until now, not having it in my hands, I just couldn’t fathom the manufacturing process they would’ve used to form the body. Especially with the way the clicker has to sit down in and with the top of the body recessed for the clip. I knew it wasn’t machined, but at least thought they were forming it out of a thin metal tube. Now seeing how thick the body walls are and the mold marks, it’s clearly injection molded. This makes sense for a 500yen pencil.

Then I take a magnet and it sticks to it!! WAIT WHAT?!? What kind of plating is this?

I decide to take a razor and try to scape it like I’m scraping paint off glass. At this point I’m totally expecting to scrape plating off but sweet jesus, it’s just some really fine, really tough black substance! HOLY SHIT. The rest is scraping off and it really seems like a steel body the way the razor feels and sounds. The surface even has a brushed finish! It looks and feels amazing!

I’m blown away by this. The fact that Pentel was able to make this seem like a full metal pencil is amazing to me. Clearly they’ve been playing with plastic and metal for a while and I wonder how/if this played into the development of the Orenznero. Also makes me wonder what other pencils are like this... aren’t one half of the Kerry’s supposed to be metal? I don’t have one, but that seems like a large chunk to be solid metal?

Unfortunately I was in such a rush to figure out what was going on, I didn’t get a photo of the black stuff. Doesn’t really matter at this point because the metal plating is so good that this thing is pretty much in mint condition. What a ride!

🙌 Pearsonified
😲 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:27:50

*Thread Reply:* Impressive!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:13:15

*Thread Reply:* big hole I'm assuming

2022-03-31 11:19:43

*Thread Reply:* Narrow

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:21:27

*Thread Reply:* that's means 1980?

2022-03-31 11:22:05

*Thread Reply:* Either 80 or 90

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:22:25

*Thread Reply:* ah that's right 1990 could also be small hole

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:22:27

*Thread Reply:* got it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:22:50

*Thread Reply:* gotta be 1990

2022-03-31 11:24:22

*Thread Reply:* Don’t know. Electroplating has been around for a while.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:25:07

*Thread Reply:* I'd say 1990. 1980 would be surprising to me.

2022-03-31 11:25:47

*Thread Reply:* The condition of the eraser makes it seem 80's to me.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:27:28

*Thread Reply:* so is yours "damaged"?

2022-03-31 11:30:15

*Thread Reply:* Nope - mint

2022-03-31 11:30:21

*Thread Reply:* MINT

2022-03-31 11:30:30

*Thread Reply:* Barely been used

2022-03-31 11:30:47

*Thread Reply:* The clicker has almost no scratches or signs of use

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:31:13

*Thread Reply:* awesome! I'm amazed how quickly you got it in. You must have shipped it to you as soon as it hit the warehouse

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:31:21

*Thread Reply:* I've never not waited the 30 days

2022-03-31 11:31:51

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I had a few things in the warehouse waiting so just did it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:32:21

*Thread Reply:* you should order another one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:32:36

*Thread Reply:* they look so good next to the pd1055

2022-03-31 11:41:42

*Thread Reply:* Think I just found another differentiator between older and newer. The mechanisms are are slightly different!

2022-03-31 11:45:14

*Thread Reply:* The top is from a rubber grip, middle is from 96 and the bottom is the 505 from 80 or 90. I’ll have to check my others.

2022-03-31 11:45:55

*Thread Reply:* There are three differences between the 505 and the other two.

2022-03-31 11:47:23

*Thread Reply:* Actually four

2022-03-31 11:48:54

*Thread Reply:* The missing spring doesn’t count

2022-03-31 11:55:17

*Thread Reply:* From left to right, the tip part that is press fit into the barrel has a gap in it, the gray plastic ramp, the tube is brass and then the plastic lead funnel is thicker.

2022-04-09 14:22:12

*Thread Reply:* The brass tube is definitely an indicator of age. I am pretty sure this PD505 is from 1980. Near as I can tell, the brass tube started in 1979 and went through at least 1985. In 1981 they released PD335 Pop’npops with stainless tubes, most likely because you can see them in the transparent bodies and the brass doesn’t look as nice. At some point they stopped using the brass tubes and just went with all stainless.

The newest I have with brass is a 1985 Red PD349. Oldest are my 1979 Green and Orange white clip PD335's. The other is my White PD335 which I now think is from 1983. All have narrow holes.

For anyone who’s dated their PD3xx’s, it would be cool to know which have the brass tube. We need some more data.

2022-04-09 14:23:22

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) it looks like your PD505 has a brass tube - did you end up pulling the date code on that?

2022-04-09 14:44:38

*Thread Reply:* Also, another indicator of age: the Japan text on the clip changed locations from the side to the front when the eraser change happened. You can see this in the catalogs.

This also seems to indicate that anything NOS that I have with the Japan on the front was maybe old body with new mechanisms and trim? For example, all my PD345 solids with Pentel Clic on them have this newer clip with Japan on front. They also have all newer internals, and newer tips, which are yet another indicator.

The base of the tip has a number of notches in it that have changed over the years. Not sure yet on the exact year span, but the tips with 8 notches seem to be the oldest. They have a small rubber gasket inside at the tip, 1.5mm in diameter. 6 notches seems to have come next and has a larger 2.5mm rubber gasket. I only see the 8 notched tips on my oldest items 1979 - 1985.

2022-04-09 14:50:21

*Thread Reply:* Do we know when the PD345 solid with Pentel Clic came out and for how long? I was under the assumption they were early examples from the late 70's. The date codes are all 8b which I was originally thinking 1978 but the internals and clip don’t match up with that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-09 15:49:12

*Thread Reply:* I did not any of my 505s

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-09 15:49:38

*Thread Reply:* The price sticker seems 80s, right?

👍 Heath
2022-04-09 16:12:21

*Thread Reply:* Yes, that was something else but needed to research more. I know @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) has a few posts about them but not sure it was clear on the years this style was used.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-09 16:24:46

*Thread Reply:* I think anything with a square label like on the 505 is 80+. Triangle is 79-

👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:35:37

@Pearsonified Are you still looking for Rolly's. There is a Yahoo store selling PC305 Rolly's for ¥3300 in Blue & Burgandy. https://zenmarket.jp/en/yshoppingproduct.aspx?itemCode=penmeister_pentel-rorry-sp&c=47299 https://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/penmeister/pentel-rorry-sp.html#

zenmarket.jp
Yahoo!ショッピング
価格
3300円
ストア名
PenStoreVintage
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:36:57

Holy shit, yes I am

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:37:54

I dont' have ZenMarket and am therefore unsure if I can even do this

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:40:48

I randomly found these last night while searching for Rolly pictures. These are the only PC305 pics I can find.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:42:20

How didy ou find the Buyee link? I couldn't figure it out

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:44:37

I had a Japanese translation of Pentel and Rolly that I did the search with. I started from just the Yahoo link that Chrome translated, took their description to Google Translate and chopped it down to just Pentel and Rolly, then pasted that into the Yahoo Store links on Zenmarket and Buyee

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:45:14

their "Japanese" description

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:45:47

Hahahaha, nice—you're a pro

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:46:19

I picked up a blue one to go with my PC355 Clicsharp

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 10:54:37

Boom, I just did the same. Thank you for the heads-up!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:00:23

Bidding on this auction. I don't care about the Ohto or the Zebra, I just want the Unknown Pencil in the middle. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f1044476885

ヤフオク!
👀 Pearsonified
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:02:22

*Thread Reply:* Looks like a precursor to the Hue

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 11:20:42

*Thread Reply:* It is considerably older than the P35. I have been watching this one but suspect that it will go for more than I want to pay. All three look to be in excellent condition.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:08:10

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 you didn't get the one you were bidding on a couple of weeks ago?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:15:41

*Thread Reply:* Yes! It actually arrived yesterday. It has more oxidation on the clip than I would like. I have 3 now and to be honest I don't need 4, but look at that one!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:17:26

*Thread Reply:* Man everyone is getting stuff they just won in.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:18:58

*Thread Reply:* What colors do you have?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:21:03

*Thread Reply:* I have 2 brown and 1 black. The shipment I just got had less than 10 pencils.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:34:29

*Thread Reply:* I feel like it wasn't that long ago that the only person we knew with one of those was George.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:38:38

*Thread Reply:* Yes! This is the pencil that really started me down the path of trying to make a list of all Pentel Pencils. Sadly this one is still eluding me.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:43:31

*Thread Reply:* I have wanted to get one of these, since I started the Pentel Book. Even more though, I would like to know what the model number is.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:44:01

*Thread Reply:* Hopefully I will win it tomorrow, probably paying too much.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:52:09

*Thread Reply:* I believe I won the other listing that knocktype wasn't bidding on.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:52:38

*Thread Reply:* I have lost a couple recently.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:26:46

*Thread Reply:* I have lost way more than a couple lately. It seems to go in spurts.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 07:06:25

*Thread Reply:* I lost it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 07:13:39

*Thread Reply:* I figured you would have bid deep into that one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 07:13:55

*Thread Reply:* I like the discipline

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 07:56:59

*Thread Reply:* I bid ¥7500

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 07:57:20

*Thread Reply:* Then I got into the office and logged on about 30 seconds after it ended.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:02:55

*Thread Reply:* That's what you get for going to the office.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:02:59

*Thread Reply:* 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:23:47

*Thread Reply:* I finally won this one a few days ago. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1045759434

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:31:27

*Thread Reply:* Awesome! I have one sitting in storage.

This is one of those pieces that I never came across then all of a sudden there's some available each week.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:32:26

*Thread Reply:* Yeah. Now why won't that work with the PG45 Blue and Green.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:32:59

*Thread Reply:* Or the Hi-Black S55 version

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:34:00

*Thread Reply:* Heck, I haven't seen any Hi-Black pencils in months.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:34:34

*Thread Reply:* I think I have one of those

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:36:18

*Thread Reply:* Yep I have the hi black s55.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:36:41

*Thread Reply:* I really need to document what I have instead of digging through poorly marked cases

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:37:52

*Thread Reply:* what is PG45?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:39:08

*Thread Reply:* SG45

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:39:18

*Thread Reply:*

👀 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:39:28

*Thread Reply:* oh. sigh. yes.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:39:37

*Thread Reply:* I need brown

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:39:47

*Thread Reply:* I have an extra brown

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 09:40:00

*Thread Reply:* sold

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:45:38

*Thread Reply:* I need navy, turquoise, and green

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:46:08

*Thread Reply:* I have only seen turquoise for sale once (and brown many times), but never the navy or green

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:47:31

*Thread Reply:* was there a black ?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:47:55

*Thread Reply:* I don't think so—black + gold was an Excalibur color scheme

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:48:28

*Thread Reply:* @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) can you update this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:55:24

*Thread Reply:* The SG45 came in A Black, C Blue, D Green and E Brown. There was an SG15 that was Black with Gold accents, that was not part of the Excalibur line. The Black with Gold Excalibur was the SG7.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:56:02

*Thread Reply:* Is that SG45 in the top black?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:56:11

*Thread Reply:* The top SG45 is Black. It is my pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:56:44

*Thread Reply:* I own the Black and Brown.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:56:49

*Thread Reply:* ok thanks for the clarity.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:52:45

I just received the bottom pencil in this picture last week. It is the first Sharp 9 I have seen with a Black Extender.

🙌 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:59:50

*Thread Reply:* Btw these are some of my favorite pieces

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:00:29

*Thread Reply:* I'm not sure why but I pull them out often to look at

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:15:08

*Thread Reply:* The bottom two are mine. I was a bit disappointed when I received the yellow one, since the cap was chewed up quite a bit.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:15:54

*Thread Reply:* When I bid on the black one, I didn't notice the black extender. I assumed I was getting the one at the top.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:16:11

*Thread Reply:* Then I got it in, and thought, "Cool".

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:17:03

*Thread Reply:* I am surprised I didnt see this one on auction

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:23:22

*Thread Reply:* It was from a Mercari listing that I bought on 2/2

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:25:49

*Thread Reply:* awww snap I think I do recall seeing it but probably overlooked it cuz I already have the green crew and the other pentel and wouldnt want whatever that orange thing is.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:26:20

*Thread Reply:* I didn't think I would either, but it is a nice Colleen Jib double knock.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:52:59

Whoooooaaaa

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:53:09

I have all of those but that all black one. Whoa.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:53:27

Then, today I was going through Germ's (Jeremy Ledford) Flickr and found this. https://www.flickr.com/photos/28971598@N08/2890345979

Flickr
} lastwinj (https://www.flickr.com/photos/28971598@N08/)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:53:36

Sigh. I thought I had a compete set

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:54:36

The box says S-15. And I have seen that this model of Sharp 9 are S-19. Then I noticed the sleeve on the tip, and I am wondering what these are.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:55:16

Notice that none of the Sharp 9's in my picture have sleeves, they just feed right out of the tip.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:34:35

*Thread Reply:* The S-19 is one of the early models. Note that the PS-100 and 101 models also did not have sleeves. It is on the basis of the picture above that I have been referring to these as S1x models. I have not seen any in .7mm.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:37:13

*Thread Reply:* Actually the only S15 I have is clear and the extender is also clear. I wonder if the .5mm models have matching extenders.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:42:45

*Thread Reply:* Can you get me a photo of yours?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 16:12:32

*Thread Reply:* Sure. Tonight

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 16:28:03

*Thread Reply:* Thanks

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 20:55:14

*Thread Reply:* Do you have any of the 101 models? I saw these, but can,t get good pics https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1368.html?name=Pentel

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Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 21:01:23

*Thread Reply:* I have one. I'll send pictures.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 06:21:19

*Thread Reply:* Here's my 101

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:20:29

*Thread Reply:* How does it compare size-wise to a 100?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:20:44

*Thread Reply:* And does anyone have a 100 in any color besides Brown?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:35:36

*Thread Reply:* I don't think I have a 100. I have a 350 I believe

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:38:44

*Thread Reply:* Can you send me the dimensions for your 101? Overall, Tip, Body and Cap (exposed portion)?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:39:38

*Thread Reply:* I can then put in the 100 dimensions. I believe it may be the longest Pentel pencil I have, or if not THE longest, then one of.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:44:32

*Thread Reply:* Is the insert in your 101 package, the same as the 1965 US One-Sheet I have in the Catalog file?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:45:44

*Thread Reply:* I can double check when I get home

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:46:36

*Thread Reply:* actually I think I've sent it to you before...stand by

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:47:08

*Thread Reply:*

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 10:23:21

*Thread Reply:* If you can get a better version that is flatter, that would be great. If not, I can see what I can do with this. Thanks.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 10:24:54

*Thread Reply:* I can scan it

😁 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:37:48

*Thread Reply:* Notes on the 101: Overall length: 150mm, tip: 15mm, and the button extends 11mm from the body. The body of the 101 is a little (4mm) shorter than the body of the 350. While both have 6 sides the 101 has sharper vertices. Also the 101 has no lead sleeve.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 12:08:50

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) Did you ever get that one-sheet scanned?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 14:55:06

*Thread Reply:* Doing so now

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 15:51:34

*Thread Reply:* It is now in the Catalog directory as "Pentel of Japan - 1967 One-Sheet.pdf".

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:55:47

What the heck

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:56:00

My thought too.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:56:19

Is this another version of a Sharp 5?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:57:05

Sigh

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 14:57:39

Germ had gotten out of collecting and I believe sold off his pieces.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:17:53

So, is this a white PD515 with the white balance off on the camera OR is it tobacco stained OR is it actually cream/tan?

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m46846880698

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:19:46

*Thread Reply:* Description says white 🙂

2022-03-31 15:22:11

*Thread Reply:* why don’t folks put the model number in their listing??

2022-03-31 15:55:28

*Thread Reply:* It's just a sunburnt PD515

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:56:58

*Thread Reply:* But it has your favorite part. A price sticker. 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 15:54:29

If anyone is interested, there is a Q535 Kerry on Mercari now. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m97872939157

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-03-31 16:04:33

Here is one of the suspected Graph II pencils, cheap on Mercari https://jp.mercari.com/item/m77854359244

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-01 09:34:19

*Thread Reply:* Just noticed the font on the lead hardness indicator window appears to be different on this version

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 10:24:22

*Thread Reply:* Yes, that is an indicator on this model (whether it is a Graph II or not). The text of the lead hardness is larger.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 23:00:25

S15

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), sideKnocks (atxalais), Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 05:36:15

*Thread Reply:* Wow! I've never seen this.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 05:36:23

*Thread Reply:* And I love the curling!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:40:37

*Thread Reply:* Could you send me the dimensions for your S15? Overall, Tip, Body, Extender and Cap (exposed portion)?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 08:41:06

*Thread Reply:* I didn't realize until you posted the other picture, how much shorter it is than the S19

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 14:04:50

*Thread Reply:* I didn't realize they were different sizes either until they were in the tray. Measurements coming.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:08:32

*Thread Reply:* The curler came in the latest shipment.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:29:23

*Thread Reply:* S15 stats: len:128,body (top of tip to bottom of extender): 86.4 extender: 24 cap above extender: 8 TtG 17.8 GtC: 51.5

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-03-31 23:01:41

S1x Family - T, A, B, C, D, G

🙌 Pearsonified
2022-04-01 19:00:05

New Pentel kelly color called “amber”. Super Similar to the khaki which is on the left. Absolute madness. But absolutely necessary for collectors. Damn you, Pentel.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 19:11:07

*Thread Reply:* 1800 only? 🤔

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:31:34

*Thread Reply:* Link? And/or model number?

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:54:07

*Thread Reply:* Did you guys forget what today is?

Ron Knapp ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:54:38

*Thread Reply:* The model number is P1035-AFD!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 19:38:36

*Thread Reply:* So was this an April fools joke?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:37:39

PS100 Length: 150mm (tip to top of cap). I see at least 3 variations.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:41:05

The yellow one is weird. it actually has a pointed metal rod instead of lead. Maybe someone was using it to scribe with it? the reservoir is an odd-ball also. I don't have a sufficient sample size of these to make any general statements other than the ones with cutouts and larger caps seem to be later and more common. The earliest ones didn't have the PS next to the 100.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:44:03

*Thread Reply:* Is the metal rod just shoved in there or does it actually work when you knock?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:53:43

*Thread Reply:* The metal rod can be advanced, but not very far. I haven't really tried to pull on it either.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:58:27

*Thread Reply:* It can be advanced one click.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 20:58:29

*Thread Reply:* What a cool discovery. I'd leave it like that

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 21:00:12

*Thread Reply:* It also has this which is not illuminating

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 21:05:03

*Thread Reply:* Google mis-translate gives: GOLDEN DEER (using Iketaroi)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 21:06:07

*Thread Reply:* Is golden deer actually on it or did Google translate add that to the image?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 21:10:42

*Thread Reply:* "Golden Deer" is actually on the pencil. The picture shows that actual printing.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 21:12:26

*Thread Reply:* My nickname was Golden Deer in college.

I'll give you $3500 for it right now.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:12:56

*Thread Reply:* Nope! iketaroi was my nickname in college!

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:29:29

*Thread Reply:* The earliest ones are just 100’s, correct? This took me a while to notice, but they have a reservoir that you can feed maybe 2 lead into, with the zero small cap. When the Sharp 9 (PS100) came out, they redesigned it with the larger reservoir, that can hold several lead and an eraser under the cap.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:30:40

*Thread Reply:* Like I say, it took me a while to notice this, since I did not have them stored together, and they are a few hundred pages apart in the book

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-01 22:46:40

*Thread Reply:* Yes, the earliest ones are the 100's. I am basing this on the idea that the earliest ones had impressions rather than molded cutouts. The way I have been thinking about the earliest days is that the first set of models had single piece lead reservoirs. These were white plastic and skinny. The second era had reservoirs that held 12 pieces of lead and were usually topped with an eraser. The flyers make a big deal of the number of lead pieces the reservoir would hold.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 08:41:06

I'm not going to buy this lot but there's one piece in here that has me 👀

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m77851874590

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 09:00:02

*Thread Reply:* There are 4 in there that I want. But not for that price

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 09:03:01

*Thread Reply:* I. Want. That. 7.

Sigh.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 09:08:58

*Thread Reply:* Yes, the 7, the two Pels and the P115 at the back

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 09:11:34

*Thread Reply:* I have the 115 and have tried really hard to not find interest in the Pels.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 09:11:51

*Thread Reply:* But honestly I always eventually give in

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-03 11:52:01

*Thread Reply:* A Seven is on my list.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-04 10:46:39

*Thread Reply:* Absurd pricing. I only care about the PELs, the PG7, and the Ceramicron

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 10:49:20

*Thread Reply:* Looks like the 7 was sold separately for 5803 yen. Sigh

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 10:53:06

*Thread Reply:* I would have paid that and then officially finally feel like a complete person and never have to acquire another pencil again.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-04 10:56:31

*Thread Reply:* u got rekt m8

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 11:02:43

*Thread Reply:* Par for the course with this damn 7.

2022-04-03 22:40:50

PD505 back up at a much-reduced price. Auction ending in 4 days.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-03 22:55:10

*Thread Reply:* I'm giving this a go!

2022-04-03 23:48:19

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I was going to see where that one was headed. What’s your limit? I won’t hit it unless it goes beyond, but not even sure what my high would be on this round. I got the last one but paid a lot so might just need to wait for the next one to come around. Do you have any currently?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 00:20:35

*Thread Reply:* No, 505 is currently absent from my Pentel collection. To be honest, the prices for this model was a bit of a shocker to me when I first chanced on it. I think everyone has their own acclimatization process… like coming to terms with the market price for any one desirable vintage piece.

For the 505, I'm not sure my personal limit is aligned with the previous benchmark of 25-27,000? That’s why I stayed out of the previous round. I’m hoping for something saner like under 20K. Realistic?

2022-04-04 00:23:46

*Thread Reply:* Right. I was willing to for the first one just to obtain one but not so much for a second.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 00:36:54

*Thread Reply:* I used to think 11K for a PG15 was nuts. And then the prices kept climbing.

2022-04-07 17:53:35

*Thread Reply:* 12 hours left! Where will it go to?? I hope you can get it for a deal but the interest is evident.

2022-04-08 03:31:51

*Thread Reply:* Under 4 hours now. Still a relative bargain. Good luck!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-08 04:43:23

*Thread Reply:* Hope my snipe bid is still valid at the end

2022-04-08 07:22:53

*Thread Reply:* Dang, did you get that for under $100??

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-08 07:25:54

*Thread Reply:* 11,500 yen yes - hopefully no seller shenanigans!

2022-04-08 07:28:27

*Thread Reply:* That's awesome congratulations!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-08 07:40:32

*Thread Reply:* Now that's a more reasonable price. Congrats!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-08 08:28:07

*Thread Reply:* Thanks, guys!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-04 21:43:56

Hey @Pearsonified, did you see this? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k1045474318

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-05 10:58:23

*Thread Reply:* Yes indeed! Fortunately, I scored one of these in an unbelievable lot last summer:

• Pilot Gimno ¥2000 version • Pilot Rocky 2020 black • Pilot Trusty 0.4 • Pentel ROLLY PC25

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-05 10:58:55

*Thread Reply:* Entire lot = ¥11,000

Clutch Situation ([email protected])
2022-04-05 05:57:48

Did the Orenz Nero Metal Grip used to have a smooth metal grip? Or at least smoother than the knurled one? I'm trying to figure out how badly I hallucinated. I swear the reason I never tried out the Metal Grip was because it looked smooth to me.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 06:01:55

Orenz Metal Grip v1 had concentric grooves. v2 made it more like Graphlet.

🙌 Clutch Situation
Clutch Situation ([email protected])
2022-04-05 06:42:27

Thank you for verifying I was not hallucinating. Did v2 release just recently?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 06:43:51

v1 was from 2015, v2 from 2020 :-)

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-05 20:11:46

Not a PS104x but it looks like one.

This is actually a pen but it has the same styling. It is silver. I don't have a model number for it

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 20:12:38

Yes! I just call it the 20-micron 🙄

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 20:15:20

I just picked up one of those. It should be shipping from Japan this week. https://buyee.jp/mercari/item/m27556662251

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-05 20:19:24

Thanks! We all think alike i guess. It may be as close to a P104x as I get.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-05 20:45:46

*Thread Reply:* 😢

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 20:50:39

*Thread Reply:* That is cheaper than I paid for the PS1042s I picked up.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 21:01:14

*Thread Reply:* I missed bidding on it at the last minute

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-06 09:17:01

*Thread Reply:* Wow, what an auction! I didn't notice this one while it was active

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 21:12:45

This one has @Knocktype11’s name written all over it…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pentel-Mechanical-Pencil-Made-In-Germany-With-Original-Pen-Case-Collecti-/175229463439?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pentel-Mechanical-Pencil-Made-In-Germany-With-Original-Pen-Case-Collecti-/175229463439?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

eBay
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-05 21:41:37

*Thread Reply:* How do you know that is not actually me selling it? 🤪

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-05 21:46:38

*Thread Reply:* You would never part with such a rare find.

☝️ Knocktype11
2022-04-06 12:38:11

*Thread Reply:* Quite a bargain!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-06 13:09:44

*Thread Reply:* That's a bargain for any single one of those.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-06 15:34:40

*Thread Reply:* This has happened a few times recently. I don't even see how it's possible for people not to know what they have

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-06 15:34:48

*Thread Reply:* Of course, the chucks could all be toast on these 2

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-06 15:34:50

*Thread Reply: these *3

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-06 16:36:46

Someone posted the following notes about the Mechanica. I am trying to find out who. I think it was either here or on Reddit. Mechanica 0.3mm First version from 1969: Clip has ‘PENTEL’ in capital letters, the twist grip has 2 etched arrows ↔️ . Box also has ‘PENTEL’ in capital letters. ‘Mid’ version from 1971 thru 1980s: ‘Pentel’ logo on clip and box has changed to modern rounded font. The grip loses the 2 arrows. ‘Late’ version from the 90s thru end of production in 2002: the grooves on the grip become shallower. The latest versions lose the JIS mark on the collar behind the grip and also come with only a clip and a sleeve, no box. In 1987, a model with a white ring was released for film. It was discontinued in 1989.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-06 16:37:56

*Thread Reply:* This is the the only that was discussed here:....

https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1644461325725149

} Kelvin Pang (drifand) (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U02SDKK7R7C)
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-06 21:11:35

*Thread Reply:* According to a very detailed post on reddit by an owner who has 6 or more MECs, the ‘mid’ version has 2 sub-eras. ‘Early-mid’ shared some transitionary parts like cloth/sleeve etc with the early ver.

👍 Pearsonified
2022-04-07 06:53:21

*Thread Reply:* Send me your pencils and I'll do it for you

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 12:04:47

I was just looking up Pentel Disney Sharp and found this. I WANT!!!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 12:30:29

*Thread Reply:* Top down view

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 12:35:17

*Thread Reply:* And another one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 14:23:25

*Thread Reply:* This is the first time I see this and I do a lot of searching for those.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 15:16:45

*Thread Reply:* I only found it when I searched specifically for "ぺんてる デイズニー シャープ", which is what is on this pencil below, the Pentel Disney Sharp pencil. I was looking specifically for more of these, but these are the only ones I could find.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 15:19:22

*Thread Reply:* Great find! Thanks for sharing. I love seeing displays like this.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 15:37:09

*Thread Reply:* And I love seeing displays like this... ON MY DESK.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 12:05:14

omg

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-07 12:05:24

I quit

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-08 12:21:24

oof level: 9000

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-08 12:21:25

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f1045471306

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-08 12:23:11

I lost this by ¥1

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-08 12:23:12

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r1045757960

ヤフオク!
2022-04-10 18:10:01

Here goes another PD505 that hopefully stays low https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1046848142

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 19:32:28

*Thread Reply:* Such a great piece. Easily the greatest creation known to man.

2022-04-10 19:33:25

*Thread Reply:* I’m glad not everyone thinks the same!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 19:39:03

*Thread Reply:* Now that you have one let the prices fly to the moon

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 19:39:12

*Thread Reply:* One day it will be worth 1 Bitcoin

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 19:39:17

*Thread Reply:* 👀

2022-04-10 21:26:03

*Thread Reply:* Same seller. I wonder what else his stash includes.

I also wonder if he has any idea that we're kind of colluding on them.

Anyone in here have intentions of bidding this time?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 21:27:56

*Thread Reply:* Not I.

2022-04-10 21:41:28

*Thread Reply:* The current bid is me.

2022-04-10 22:00:21

*Thread Reply:* Nice. If you get it at the current price it should ease the pain of the first one you bought.

2022-04-10 22:07:51

*Thread Reply:* It will 🙂

2022-04-10 22:08:55

*Thread Reply:* But it’s all good

2022-04-15 05:06:20

*Thread Reply:* 2 hrs left with at least one competitor

2022-04-15 07:24:11

*Thread Reply:* Oh man that is such a better price!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-15 07:26:37

*Thread Reply:* Boom! Always nice to get that one crossed off twice.

2022-04-15 07:26:47

*Thread Reply:* Yep

2022-04-15 07:26:55

*Thread Reply:* Exactly what I was thinking

2022-04-15 07:27:10

*Thread Reply:* All is good now

2022-04-15 07:27:16

*Thread Reply:* for now

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-15 07:36:56

*Thread Reply:* Knowing how this goes we'll discover a gold one soon.

2022-04-15 07:37:19

*Thread Reply:* You know it will

2022-04-26 08:50:47

*Thread Reply:* Got this in yesterday and it’s a month older than my other PD505 which is 0H, Aug 1980. This one is 0G, July 1980 and also has the brass tube and the same 7 mold mark. I wonder how many years these were made… need some more date codes… 😏

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 21:26:11

I just got on eBay and found this https://www.ebay.com/itm/325141041042

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 21:26:35

It had been up for less than an hour, and I grabbed it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-10 21:26:49

I saw that one get posted

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-11 08:40:34

I just posted the latest _Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2022.07.pdf to the Catalogs directory. It has about 26 more pages of pencils. One change is that the Sharp 11 is now listed as Pentel 11. When I was originally compiling this book and putting in the Sharp 5, Sharp 7 and Sharp 9, my mind automatically put the Sharp 11 with them. But in fact this pencil does not say Sharp anywhere on it. It says Pentel Eleven 11, so I moved its location in the book. The index does show Sharp 11 as well, so you can find it that way, along with Pentel 11.

🎉 sideKnocks (atxalais)
❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
📖 Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-11 14:39:03

1973 ad

🤯 Pearsonified
❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Kiwi-d
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-11 14:50:09

*Thread Reply:* 49 years later, and I still think 0.2mm is crazy 😳

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-11 15:02:08

*Thread Reply:* How do you feel about 0.4mm?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-11 15:02:26

*Thread Reply:* let's hear it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-11 15:15:41

*Thread Reply:* That's bait

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-11 17:21:14

This one would hurt if you fell on it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325142414023?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=97tNyMuVTRu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/325142414023?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=97tNyMuVTRu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
😂 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-11 18:36:20

*Thread Reply:* NOT pocket safe.

2022-04-11 23:49:28

*Thread Reply:* The p209 'spear'. Take it with you on your next javelin competition or conference.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 12:24:20

This one has @Heath’s name written all over it…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275267475684?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BljsLU5AS8-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/275267475684?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BljsLU5AS8-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
2022-04-12 12:27:57

*Thread Reply:* While that is a very nice pencil, it's going to take more than that to go north of $1k

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:09:53

*Thread Reply:* A very nice PXE5

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 12:28:52

Here is another interesting Pop'nPop with more mind bending English and an interesting model number: FSA1 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u1046449004

ヤフオク!
👍 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 12:30:47

*Thread Reply:* Can someone remind me what the copyright Dragon is about?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 12:32:30

*Thread Reply:* I don't know but the last wacky Pop'nPop was also Dragon.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 12:33:09

*Thread Reply:* But that one did not say Pentel on it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:01:24

*Thread Reply:* I am bidding on these.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:01:57

*Thread Reply:* What was the "other" Dragon?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:03:17

*Thread Reply:* https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C021XG9ECQ4/p1648235692441399?threadts=1648235692.441399&cid=C021XG9ECQ4|https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C021XG9ECQ4/p1648235692441399?threadts=1648235692.441399&cid=C021XG9ECQ4

} knocktype11 (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U0214HUEA9M)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:11:34

*Thread Reply:* I have been wondering for a while if Pop'npop was some company that had Pentel making pencils for them. Like Disney.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:14:51

*Thread Reply:* there was a video game in Japan called Pop'npop but it doesn't relate enough for that to be an explantation

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:15:26

*Thread Reply:* most of their pieces are cheap and kiddie except for the PBS1 which is just baddassss

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:19:02

*Thread Reply:* But it would explain the non-Pentel Pop'npop.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:21:13

*Thread Reply:* Those Pop'npops are like this one…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:21:20

*Thread Reply:*

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:23:38

*Thread Reply:* Can you send me a good picture of this one? I have the DA406 in the book, but not the DA409.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:24:09

*Thread Reply:* And it is like the DA406 that is in the book.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:25:35

*Thread Reply:* It's a group shot

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:25:43

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:25:45

*Thread Reply:* I'll get you a better shot

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:42:17

*Thread Reply:* The Pop'nPop pencils are the same quality as the other corresponding Pentel pencils. They do tend to have more clear or translucent bits and have a bit more pop to them. The Q604 is not bad at all. It has a brass connector between the top and bottom sections.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 15:28:38

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I didn’t mean cheap as in cheaper versions of Pentels but more of the more affordable Pentels and not the higher caliber more expensive pencils

👍 Knocktype11
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 14:10:03

I am bidding on this: https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=h1045067236

zenmarket.jp
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:08:42

*Thread Reply:* Predicted closing price: ¥5385

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:09:31

*Thread Reply:* With only 5 watchers thus far, you may be able to score the rare piece for under ¥5000 in this case.

I've not been a part of a Technoclic auction that closed for under ¥5500 😔

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:10:18

*Thread Reply:* Oh snap, it's posted in Antiques and not Mechanical Pencils! This is definitely your best chance

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:10:33

*Thread Reply:* I haven't paid more than $30 for any of mine.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:11:02

*Thread Reply:* Clearly you are pushing up the price🤪

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:11:03

*Thread Reply:* When was your last Technoclic purchase, and which platform was it?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:11:19

*Thread Reply:* It was ebay last year

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:11:24

*Thread Reply:* (All my pricing references are Mercari and YAJ from April 20, 2021 onward)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:12:47

*Thread Reply:* In other words, if you scored one on eBay, that's another story entirely

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:21:08

*Thread Reply:* fair enough

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-12 16:22:42

*Thread Reply:* At this point, eBay is the only place you can realistically score a piece where someone doesn't really know what they have.

The opportunities are few and far between on Mercari, and unless you live in Japan (or have a close contact there), you can't score these world-beating deals

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:22:37

*Thread Reply:* Predicted closing price: 8500

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:22:56

*Thread Reply:* I have a green one if you need.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:23:52

*Thread Reply:* I have a green one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:24:21

*Thread Reply:* But did it come with Austin bbq sauce? I think not.

What you have is mere plastic

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:28:47

*Thread Reply:* It is plastic, but the best kind.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:29:09

*Thread Reply:* Is Austin bbq sauce sweet or sour?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:29:17

*Thread Reply:* Both

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:29:46

*Thread Reply:* Actually I have no idea. I've only had bbq a couple of times here

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:29:55

*Thread Reply:* I've only lived here 8+ years.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:32:58

*Thread Reply:* We have a Texas BBQ place here. The ribs are good but the sauce is kind of sweet and week. So maybe my green one is better because it did not come with the sauce.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:39:03

*Thread Reply:* Your green one is a fake.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:39:09

*Thread Reply:* You got it at hobby lobby.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-12 18:41:51

*Thread Reply:* Well now, I will pretend like you didn't say that and we can still be friends.

😍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:17:50

Just received this a few minutes ago.

🤯 Pearsonified
2022-04-13 10:18:52

*Thread Reply:* That is very nice!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:36:44

*Thread Reply:* oh man. lucky

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:46:39

*Thread Reply:* I really, REALLY love this pencil

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:57:31

*Thread Reply:* Now, I just need the PWP15.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 10:57:48

*Thread Reply:* Hah, as if I "just" need one more pencil.

😂 Pearsonified, Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 11:13:16

Pentel FFF and a Pilot H-208X hiding in this lot (along with a few other notable specimens) https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1047164194

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 11:14:46

I can't tell if the etched one (5th from left) is a Sailor; if it is, it's a very nice pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 11:15:06

Also can't tell if the burgundy Pilot Ruano is an MP or BP

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 11:15:41

The metallic baby blue pencil with gold accents (right of middle) is a Platinum Sure Point...with some advertising print

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 11:16:10

There's a VERY nice gold Pilot MP 3 to the right of the Platinum, too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-13 11:16:35

Anything under ¥6500 is a great deal on this lot

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-13 15:27:54

If Pentel didn't make pens, pastels, or those darn cat pen holders, my auction site browsing time would be cut in half.

😖 Pearsonified
🤣 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Ƶ
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 08:09:27

One day left for items in storage with Buyee. Been waiting for the last one to arrive. Crap it won't make it on time. Guess I have to consolidate and ship 14 out of 15.

This morning’s emails: Your item has arrived Consolidation complete

🤦‍♂️

2022-04-14 08:13:15

That just means you have to start another round for the next 30 days!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 08:15:18

Exactly. It doesn't end Heath! It doesn't end!!!!

🥺 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 16:07:59

Just found this on Etsy I had never seen this until a few weeks ago on Germ/Pencil11's Flickr page. https://www.etsy.com/listing/623370643/vintage-1984-pentel-excaliber-la-los

Etsy
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 17:30:00

*Thread Reply:* That's a cool find.

So, do you keep it in it's box?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 18:41:05

*Thread Reply:* I just found it and ordered it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 18:50:34

*Thread Reply:* When you get it in will you keep it in its box or take it out and put it in a case with it’s family?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 20:46:06

*Thread Reply:* It will probably stay in the box.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 16:10:02

It is not the standard PX7-21WO Excalibur pencil. It is the Q565WO and RSH6WO pencil & pen set for the 1984 Olympics.

2022-04-14 19:09:57

*Thread Reply:* Thats a good find

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 19:13:55

Are there any differences between the FFF and the regular P115?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 20:45:07

Not that I can tell other than the paint job.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 21:12:18

Just saw this on Yahoo Auctions. 10 hours left for a PS1042 (no sticker), a Boxy and a Pentel ML5. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x1047477595

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 21:12:58

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 Weren't you looking to get one of these?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-14 21:20:21

*Thread Reply:* Yes. I already have a bid on it. I was hoping that it would fly under the radar since is was short and the thumbnail picture does not give anything away.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-14 21:27:57

*Thread Reply:* I was watching it but haven't bid.

I'll let you take a swing. ⚾

❤️ Knocktype11
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-15 09:23:28

*Thread Reply:* Huge score

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-17 19:41:42

*Thread Reply:* Did you win?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-18 01:21:20

*Thread Reply:* Yes!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-15 23:38:50

While not strictly pencil related. This is kind of interesting in that it has the music and words to the Pentel Song: @sideKnocks (atxalais) you should take a crack at this and let us know how it sounds: https://zenmarket.jp/en/auction.aspx?itemCode=l1035459353

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 06:33:04

*Thread Reply:* Hah! This does tickle a fancy of mine.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 14:52:53

I just now realized that the PD1065 has two different tip lengths. My Black one has a 2mm sleeve and my Orange one has a 4mm sleeve.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:10:44

That orange sleeve looks suspiciously like a basic P205 tip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:11:03

This goes back to my (very annoying) hypothesis that many Japanese sellers replace broken parts for resale

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:11:21

I see lots of Pentels sporting tips that, as far as I can tell, are not OEM tips

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:11:34

Or more specifically, are simply non-matching tips from different Pentel models

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:19:24

That tip (in the 2mm & 4mm) has been used since the late 60's on the Pentel 11. The P205 used both of these.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:29:08

*Thread Reply:* So you're saying Pentel released P205s with 2mm lead sleeves?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:31:05

*Thread Reply:* Yes. That is how they were initially released. Most of Generation 1 (1970-71) were 2mm sleeves. Some went into Generation 2, but by the end of Gen 2, they had all switched to 4mm sleeves.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:31:26

*Thread Reply:* The Disney and Popeye character pencils were released with 2mm sleeves.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:33:36

*Thread Reply:* Wow, I had no idea

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:28:17

Taking a look at the thread of the pencils, both pencils have 8.66 to 8.8mm of clutch housing sticking beyond the body, but the black has thread of 5.1mm and the orange is only 4.1mm. Not sure if this makes any difference. And these look to be older (if the small triangle stickers are any indication) than the use of Date Codes

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:29:39

And you may be right that the Orange may be switched out, as I can find no definitive indication online that other PD1065s had a 4mm sleeve.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-16 15:34:11

*Thread Reply:* That's my thinking—you don't often see (ever, maybe?) 4mm lead sleeves on non-drafting Pentels

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 16:28:20

*Thread Reply:* I'll check all of mine to see

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-16 20:06:13

*Thread Reply:* I see 3mm on pentels also. The rubber grip PD345 has a long, but not quite 4mm, lead sleeve.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 20:55:13

*Thread Reply:* We don't talk about the rubber grip pd345.

😂 Dry
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-16 22:37:17

*Thread Reply:* There are 2, 3, 4, 5 mm tips. All I was specifically asking about was on the PD1065.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-17 20:47:45

Does anyone have a PN55 TechnoPress? Is this an Auto Advance pencil, and how do you advance lead at all? It looks like the endcap is screwed on, like the PN105.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-17 20:51:42

*Thread Reply:* Z has one.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 05:48:11

PD505 arrived today along with a BOXY case. No shenanigans… 🙌

👀 Pearsonified
👊 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 06:05:08

*Thread Reply:* How awesome!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 06:06:23

*Thread Reply:* I'm so excited that y'all have gotten the 505. Its such a great piece for a collection.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 06:16:40

*Thread Reply:* Thanks! This is one Pentel that really surprised me when I found out it existed.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 06:21:12

*Thread Reply:* Yeah it's so cool and not really seen often.

I've had about 6 of them over the years.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 06:22:18

*Thread Reply:* Now I'm thinking: WHICH PEN goes with this??

2022-04-18 07:28:51

*Thread Reply:* Oh sweet

2022-04-18 07:29:33

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, my mind was blown when I first found out about it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 07:33:43

*Thread Reply:* Knowing how this goes we'll probably find out that this was part of a bronze, silver and gold collection that came in a very rare box.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 07:33:48

*Thread Reply:* 😂

😆 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-18 08:57:24

*Thread Reply:* That BOXY case is flexing so hard on BMW M branding

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 21:40:33

*Thread Reply:* I hadn't realised why I was so drawn to that case…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-18 20:44:15

I just uploaded the Pentel 2022 US catalog and the 2022-2023 Australian catalog to the Catalogs directory, along with the updated spreadsheet.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11, sideKnocks (atxalais), Pearsonified
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-21 13:18:37

@First-Sail has joined the channel

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-21 20:44:50

Latest version of the _Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2022.08.pdf has been loaded to the Catalog directory (see the #pentel Topic. Added a couple of "new" pencils, a bunch of new pictures, the latest catalog updates and an Acknowledgements page. If you would like to be listed differently, OR if I have forgotten someone, please let me know. I am about ready to make this public, not just to Knockology, and that will lead to another post of mine.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-21 20:50:41

The next item, I would like some help with is the domain name for a website to host this information. I plan to host the versions of the PDF on there, plus, begin posting these items online in a web searchable format. Ideally, I would like to make the equivalent of each page of the PDF into a web page/blog post, with tags to make it searchable. Plus as a web page, I could add a lot more content and images for items that deserve it or at least that I have more content to add. I also need to figure out the best host for this.

2022-04-22 06:22:50

*Thread Reply:* pentelbook.com and thepentelbook.com are available

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-22 09:25:31

*Thread Reply:* The Pentel book is an amazing project and you can totally do something cool with it. As me you and Pearson were talking over the lunch the other day, we each have some ideas and things we're working on. We could consider what it would look like if we combined all of our efforts together. I know I created Knockology and I don't want it to hijack anyone's projects but we could consider what it would look like if became more than a Slack group and branched into a platform for things like a wiki, items for sell, the Pentel book, blog posts, meetups, podcasts, etc.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-23 15:03:17

*Thread Reply:* If you are not declaring on it I am going all-in!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 15:37:25

*Thread Reply:* Hey hey hey. Before you pawn the Babe Ruth card can I have it?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-23 15:38:36

*Thread Reply:* I don't have a Babe Ruth card but I do have two kidneys...

2022-04-23 16:52:54

*Thread Reply:* I might have to go all in…

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:00:54

*Thread Reply:* Both kidneys?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:48:32

*Thread Reply:* Alright thumbs up these messages if you are willing to go up to…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:48:41

*Thread Reply:* $100 USD

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:48:51

*Thread Reply:* $125

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:48:55

*Thread Reply:* $150

👍 Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:48:58

*Thread Reply:* $200

👍 Ƶ
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:54:06

*Thread Reply:* Well there we go

2022-04-23 17:54:23

*Thread Reply:* Lol but who knows

2022-04-23 17:54:36

*Thread Reply:* Somebody else from Japan or china might beat us

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 17:56:41

*Thread Reply:* I don't think so

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-23 18:10:35

*Thread Reply:* We may be the big money on pencils now.

2022-04-23 18:59:05

*Thread Reply:* 🍿

2022-04-23 19:18:34

*Thread Reply:* 😂😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 19:48:30

*Thread Reply:* Does anyone know what the W might mean on that pencil. I do not remember seeing it before.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-25 00:04:18

*Thread Reply:* I thought that @Kelvin Pang (drifand) posted something about this here. Maybe it was on reddit. I can't find it though.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 00:20:05

*Thread Reply:* Haven't seen this before except recently on Twitter. ‘W’ typically means ‘Double Knock’

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-25 00:24:10

*Thread Reply:* Maybe it was on twitter then!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 00:33:22

*Thread Reply:* let's hope it isn't a franken-joke

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-25 00:36:47

*Thread Reply:* Nooooooo

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 00:43:41

*Thread Reply:* Might not be the same in question - the Twitter post appears to be a double knock S55 or a ballpoint?

The trio on auction - middle one has a milled center ring.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:05:16

*Thread Reply:* Oh my fucjing god there it is

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:05:21

*Thread Reply:* that's the Pentel W-knock

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:05:37

*Thread Reply:* Everybody get out of my way

2022-04-25 10:05:41

*Thread Reply:* LOL

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:05:49

*Thread Reply:* willing to do $250?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:06:01

*Thread Reply:* butthurt AF over not getting this (because I didn't want to start a new shipment)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:06:02

*Thread Reply:* https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1048415507

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:06:07

*Thread Reply:* But the Pentel W-knock is non-negotiable

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:07:16

*Thread Reply:* $250? I'd probably cap this at $185

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:07:23

*Thread Reply:* W-knock went for $131 on Mercari last July

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:07:33

*Thread Reply:* Z already committed to $200

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:13:22

*Thread Reply:* He doesn't want this smoke. I'll break him.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:13:42

*Thread Reply:* oh this is good.

2022-04-25 10:13:44

*Thread Reply:* 😂😂😂

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:13:47

*Thread Reply:* I currently have the high bid

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:17:32

*Thread Reply:* places ¥50,000 sniper bid

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:18:23

*Thread Reply:* Places ¥49,999 sniper bid 🤣

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:18:53

*Thread Reply:* you just called his bluff didn't you?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:19:16

*Thread Reply:* Not me.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:20:18

*Thread Reply:* For the moment, I will just be happy if someone on this list wins it, and I can get good pictures.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:27:16

Time to open some green envelopes….

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:28:00

*Thread Reply:* Excited about this packaging

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:30:01

*Thread Reply:* Bought this lot just to get the yellow

❤️ Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:31:20

*Thread Reply:* Now I think I got all the Hue colors.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:34:34

*Thread Reply:* This may be the coolest thing I've gotten in a while. Already had a black one but I wanted this packaging.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:36:01

*Thread Reply:* This guy is in really good shape. Wow.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:37:44

*Thread Reply:* Clean

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:38:56

*Thread Reply:* The April fools gold kerry

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:41:26

*Thread Reply:* Clean clean clean Quickcolors

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:43:29

*Thread Reply:* I had all of the colors in this set minus yellow. Cool that it came carded.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:44:48

*Thread Reply:* These are spotless! 🤤

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 13:48:16

*Thread Reply:* The end

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-23 14:51:29

*Thread Reply:* Sweet haul. Do the S19s have the old or new logo? I like the P225, does it have something printed on the side?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 14:52:52

*Thread Reply:*

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-23 15:01:06

*Thread Reply:* I have seen these before. Is it a tie-in with something we wouldn't understand?

2022-04-23 17:54:32

*Thread Reply:* Awesome!

2022-04-23 17:54:51

*Thread Reply:* Lots in really nice shape

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 18:33:58

*Thread Reply:* It's definitely something we know nothing about.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 20:37:56

*Thread Reply:* PD1065 Stream-Line… gotta give the kanji a try!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 21:10:28

*Thread Reply:* Ok, no new revelations. The mention of ‘Stream-Line’ is in reference to the shape of the body, intended to fit your hand comfortably.

👍 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:07:56

*Thread Reply:* The green phootgraphs extremely well

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:08:11

*Thread Reply:* Would LOVE to buy a green sharplet 500

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:08:33

*Thread Reply:* and a blue if you have another

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:09:29

*Thread Reply:* PD1065 is absolutely cool AF

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 18:39:27

*Thread Reply:* @Knocktype11 the S19s have old logo

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-23 21:43:01

*Thread Reply:* Oh god.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-24 01:11:35

*Thread Reply:* Nice. I have seen a black one like that.

Actually the pencils on either side are pretty neat also.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 18:11:06

*Thread Reply:* I have the black one like that.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-25 10:10:20

*Thread Reply:* What the whaaaaA?!?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 18:43:56

Did someone grab a copy of the 1970 Japanese One-Sheet off my Dropbox? It has disappeared from there, and from my originals.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:44:10

I plan to bid on these. Pick up my missing Yellow Q605 and another P595 Pop'npop.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:45:31

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I was watching that one for the silver Pop'npop. Just recently got the yellow Q605 to finish out that set.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:46:34

*Thread Reply:* If the P595 will be a duplicate for you'll I'll buy it from you.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-26 07:33:30

*Thread Reply:* If you want to bid on this, I have been outbid. It is also time for me to close out my ZenMarket package. This would have been pushing to arrive in time, anyway.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-26 15:16:53

*Thread Reply:* I'll give it a shot. I'll hook you up with a yellow if I win.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-26 16:46:15

*Thread Reply:* 👍

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:44:11

https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=n1049014880

zenmarket.jp
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:48:57

And I just identified a new pencil for the book. The brown and red just right of middle. A203 Pentel 120 A2. I have seen the A3 and A3dx, but these are new to me. https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=1049019333

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:50:15

*Thread Reply:* Interesting. I was watching that one for the 501 and totally missed those.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:51:22

*Thread Reply:* Yes, there are several in there that I would like. I have a feeling this one will go north of ¥10,000.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:52:04

*Thread Reply:* The only pencil I have in there is the A125 Sharplet.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:52:35

*Thread Reply:* The second one is a pen.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:53:07

*Thread Reply:* I know you have that pen 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:55:21

*Thread Reply:* I don't have that pen, but I do have the 6th one (Person's Collection PB6)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-24 20:55:41

*Thread Reply:* Didn't realize it was a pen at first.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 08:07:05

I don't know if these have just started popping up, or if they are common, and we have just noticed them due to knowing what they are now. Just in case someone wants to get one. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m63116298753

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 08:08:05

Yeah, been seeing quite a few

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 17:17:58

Does anyone have any information on the Kate Orenz Nero?

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-25 17:30:34

Kate Tokyo is a distributor of facial cosmetics (!?) The letters of the logo is the same as the one on the Kate Nero box printed https://www.kate-global.net/sg/all_products/face/

kate-global.net
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-25 17:31:18

Yeah I saw that and was thinking it was just a promo piece but then I read that it was limited to 150 pieces.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-26 07:39:50

This popped up on eBay and I am going for this. It has 2 pencils I have been looking for, the non-Lead Indicator PG1505 and the gold ring PG5. https://www.ebay.com/itm/224955888755

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-26 07:40:48

*Thread Reply:* Now that I think about it, I think they switched the indicator rings between the PG5 and the PMG. The PMG is supposed to have the gold ring and the PG5 had a silver ring.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-26 09:19:17

*Thread Reply:* The lighting is so poor, it's hard to tell

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-26 09:51:48

*Thread Reply:* Yes, but I know that the PMG never had a yellow ring.

2022-04-27 03:22:51

@sideKnocks (atxalais) what's this about a re-release of the original QC?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 06:40:45

*Thread Reply:* I know nothing. Just a speculation. I've also predicted the colors they'll go with.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 07:13:24

*Thread Reply:* QC?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 07:13:34

*Thread Reply:* Nevermind

2022-04-27 16:03:47

*Thread Reply:* Would you like to share your speculation with the group?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 16:35:28

*Thread Reply:* Just searched for the convo on here and couldn't find it. I may have discussed directly with @Heath

I predict that they will rerelease in transparent only and those colors will be colors that of the Chill Time with Friends

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 16:35:53

*Thread Reply:* https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/sktfqs/thedailygraborenzchilltimeseries0305/?utmsource=share&utmmedium=iosapp&utmname=iossmf|https://www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/sktfqs/thedailygraborenzchilltimeseries0305/?utmsource=share&utmmedium=iosapp&utmname=iossmf

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 16:36:06

*Thread Reply:* These colors. The best colors ever produced.

2022-04-27 16:37:16

*Thread Reply:* Yeah it was a DM

2022-04-27 16:37:25

*Thread Reply:* They are sweet

2022-04-27 16:37:43

*Thread Reply:* but yer missing a clear red and pink…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 16:39:22

*Thread Reply:* I have them

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 16:41:54

*Thread Reply:* Those can't be included in photos

2022-04-27 16:42:36

*Thread Reply:* You haven’t rubbed them off yet? No pun intended.

2022-04-27 16:43:00

*Thread Reply:* a little wd-40

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 16:43:40

*Thread Reply:* You didn't

😂 Heath, Dry
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-27 10:13:58

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b1049294756

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 10:15:47

*Thread Reply:* Nice. Two Sharp 11, five ML5 and four P505 pencils.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 10:16:59

Saw this too. It's the boxxxxx… Does this mean the model is Sharp 11? That's the katakana… ぺんてるシャープ11

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-27 10:17:21

The 11 is so evocative of Formula 1 for me

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 10:20:18

It looks like they are the early version of the Pentel 11.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-27 10:20:38

Before they started labeling them S305, S307, etc.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:11:22

There are a bunch of good pieces that have just gone up on Yahoo Auctions. I am bidding on the first one, but the others are tempting. Hi Black S55 version https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1049667137 Hi Black ML5 version with green P35 Hue https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n1049649654

ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:14:07

Green P300 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1049629804 Blue Rolly PC205 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1049687861 Green Q535 Kerry with pink PD335 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o1049657259 Gold P2135 Kerry https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n1049617170 and a couple of PBS1 auctions https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m1049648715 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x1049648064

ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:27:21

*Thread Reply:* I'm hitting up the 335 and 535

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:27:40

*Thread Reply:* I'm tempted on that p300

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:27:55

*Thread Reply:* I don't have any of those

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:28:32

*Thread Reply:* I am tempted on the P300 as well, but I picked up a Black one in a previous buy, so I will leave it to someone else.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:28:56

*Thread Reply:* I was also tempted by the Q535 as well.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:29:46

*Thread Reply:* If I can get the 335 I'll hook you up with the Q535

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:30:03

*Thread Reply:* Great

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:30:36

*Thread Reply:* There is also a Q535 Pop'npop in solid red on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/304384808649

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:31:06

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I can't stomach that price for that model

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:31:36

*Thread Reply:* I got the other colors for like $15 I believe

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:34:03

*Thread Reply:* I am the same on that, but this is the first I have seen of any of this colorway besides the solid yellow I have, and the sold-out packaged ones on Yamauchiya. https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1317.html

山内屋商店 - 会津
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:36:32

*Thread Reply:* Really, that Q535 that you are bidding on, is the first of these I have seen as well, beyond the ones I show from MechanicalPencilMuseum http://mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com/2013/05/pentel-q535.html

mechanicalpencilmuseum.blogspot.com
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:37:25

*Thread Reply:* I picked up the $15 Pop'npops, but they are transparent vs the solid colors.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:38:14

*Thread Reply:* You have transparent q535s?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:38:55

*Thread Reply:* The Transparent caps vs solid color caps

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:40:25

*Thread Reply:* Transparent caps https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1270.html vs Solid color caps https://www.yamauchiya.info/products/detail1317.html

山内屋商店 - 会津
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:41:10

*Thread Reply:* As far as I can tell, the Q535 solid color cap Pop'npops have the same colors as the Q535 Kerrys.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 08:52:40

*Thread Reply:* Oh yes. I have the transparent caps.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:16:20

Who did it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:16:25

my bid was ¥22,489

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:16:35

who do you think, brah

2022-04-28 10:17:04

It wasn't me.. 😔

2022-04-28 10:17:12

I fell asleep 😴

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:17:18

really?

2022-04-28 10:19:39

*Thread Reply:* Yeah it really wasn't me

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:20:09

*Thread Reply:* thought you had $250 USD on it

2022-04-28 10:20:25

*Thread Reply:* I forgot to hit it

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:17:26

Which auction are we talking about

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:17:37

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g1048913419

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:17:46

THE auction

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:17:50

Yes

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:18:44

Did you get it, @sideKnocks (atxalais)?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:19:09

I did not. My max bid was $100 USD as mentioned in our negotiations chat

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:19:28

Well, that sucks if none of us got it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:19:34

C'mon one of us here better have gotten it

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:19:45

I thought my bid was gonna be close...but enough

2022-04-28 10:19:59

My last bid was as 22,000 yen

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:20:27

@Knocktype11 PLEASE speak up that it was YOU!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:35:18

*Thread Reply:* 👎

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:21:06

@Pearsonified said he would give away his entire collection if one of us doesn't win it

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:21:14

you want that stress, bud?

2022-04-28 10:21:42

Oh…. I didn't know the stakes were that high

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:22:12

anytime Chris says "you don't want this smoke" he means that he will throw it all away if he loses.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:22:34

The Toolbox is already at the curb

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:22:46

jumps in car

🐎 sideKnocks (atxalais), Ƶ
🏎️ sideKnocks (atxalais), Ƶ
2022-04-28 10:22:51

Send me your address

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:26:25

I'm already halfway there from you Z, plus I have his address (or at least where he has had me mail packages).

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:26:49

I live in the same town fellas

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:26:50

Just got to fight through Waco

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:27:10

The Toolbox is heavy. You will need help.

😂 Ƶ
2022-04-28 10:27:12

It's crazy how nearby we all are.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:27:28

I already have someone from TaskRabbit hired

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:27:48

His payment is anything Colleen

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:28:01

ha! Not the double knocks, tho

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:28:06

Where are you, Z?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:28:15

I think he's in OK

2022-04-28 10:28:17

I'm from Oklahoma

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 10:28:20

That's right

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 14:24:24

*Thread Reply:* We won't find out, but want to bet that that order gets cancelled?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 15:29:28

*Thread Reply:* Good point

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 14:32:51

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... Looking at Germ's old Pencils11 blog, on the wayback machine and found more Rush On Goal pencils. Now up to 12. https://web.archive.org/web/20120207071847/http://pencils11.blogspot.com/2011/06/as-requested-by-ricardo-few-shots-of.html

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 14:40:27

*Thread Reply:* And if you looke at the left one I circled, on the left of the clip, it says "0.5 Pentel" and something else, maybe the mysterious model number?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-28 15:31:13

*Thread Reply:* Oh wow, wouldn't that be something! And how is it we never see these?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 14:33:19

Oh man. I'll never come close.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 14:33:23

Well, at least I still own more than half of them, just barely.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 14:35:04

All I want in life.

😂 Pearsonified
🤗 First-Sail
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 19:10:29
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 20:52:46

Don't accept that offer @Ƶ I was just messing with ya 😉

2022-04-28 20:56:10

*Thread Reply:* Haha! I'll let you know. I bought it for over $200 on Mercari jp. I'm unloading a bunch of things on eBay right now. I'm moving to California this summer so figured I'd sell a whole bunch of things in my closet.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 20:56:42

*Thread Reply:* We know. We read your journal.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 20:56:47

*Thread Reply:* Good luck selling

2022-04-28 20:57:01

*Thread Reply:* ….you guys knew??

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 20:57:24

*Thread Reply:* Yes. We keep a psychic on retainer.

2022-04-28 20:57:46

*Thread Reply:* 🫥

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 20:58:00

*Thread Reply:* We didn't know. Just messing with ya.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 21:01:42

*Thread Reply:* California moving to Texas….

😂 Ƶ, Pearsonified
2022-04-28 21:05:24

*Thread Reply:* That is hilarious! Hahaha. But yeah you don't have to tell me. I work in economic development and workforce for the state and so it's just like so crazy that I'm doing the opposite. But my fiancé is wrapping up her final year of medical school and she starts her residency in July. And out of all places she got placed in LA. And we're getting married in june. So lots of fun in the next few months.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-28 21:06:18

*Thread Reply:* A mechanical pencil wedding cake. That'll be a first.

We want photos.

❤️ Pearsonified
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:11:25

*Thread Reply:* What!? 😮 I NEED one of these

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:13:38

*Thread Reply:* Yea that's the Quickcolor.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:14:52

*Thread Reply:* I believe I have all of the colors

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:27:34

*Thread Reply:* Sell ​​me the clear one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:27:43

*Thread Reply:* They are all clear

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:29:05

*Thread Reply:* Well if you have one for sale I'm first in line.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:31:02

*Thread Reply:* The Quickcolors show up on the auction sites pretty regularly.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:32:11

*Thread Reply:* The pocket clip and eraser cap oftentimes is yellowed and broken but sometimes you can get mint condition. The last few I've gotten in were perfect

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:32:29

*Thread Reply:* https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1650739286824979?threadts=1650738436.050729&channel=C02177HJ50D&messagets=1650739286.824979|https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1650739286824979?threadts=1650738436.050729&channel=C02177HJ50D&messagets=1650739286.824979

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:33:13

*Thread Reply:* https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1640286616262200

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Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:35:10

*Thread Reply:* I need to get me an orange 0.9. Just one

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:37:34

*Thread Reply:*

❤️ sideKnocks (atxalais)
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:38:55

*Thread Reply:* "If you have any questions, or are looking to buy or sell a particular piece, please contact me using the form below"

Just out of curiosity, do you sell mechanical pencils (as you say on your blog)?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:40:30

*Thread Reply:* Who are you referring to? :-)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:42:20

*Thread Reply:* I sell directly when I have what someone is looking for, yes. I also help people who aren't familiar with shopping in other countries.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-04-29 07:42:49

*Thread Reply:* Ok thanks

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-29 09:50:39

*Thread Reply:* Thanks, I hate it 😁

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-29 10:26:50

wat https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1049669492

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 10:51:50

*Thread Reply:* Are you bidding on this?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-04-29 10:53:56

*Thread Reply:* No

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 14:42:54

Anyone know what, why, and when Pentel adds an X to the product numbering? Example: PD335 vs XPD335

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 15:23:11

*Thread Reply:* I know that a lot of times, that represents that the part is packaged.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 15:27:11

*Thread Reply:* Thank you

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 15:54:18

*Thread Reply:* You can see this in the Japan 2017-2018 catalog on page 48. The P209 Kirari pencils are listed as XP209, since they were only sold packaged (AFAIK).

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 15:52:48

Thanks to @sideKnocks (atxalais), I have added a "Pentel of Japan - 1967 One-Sheet.pdf" to the catalog file. I chose 1967 as the year, because the Graph and S55 are included in this, but the Mechanica (1968) is not there.

👍 Heath, sideKnocks (atxalais)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-04-29 16:07:03

*Thread Reply:* That makes sense.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-01 18:43:04

This one has @Heath’s name written all over it…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Super-Rare-Pentel-Technopress-PN55-Black-0-5mm-/185405750250?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Super-Rare-Pentel-Technopress-PN55-Black-0-5mm-/185405750250?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

eBay
2022-05-01 18:44:52

*Thread Reply:* While I would love to add that to my automatic collection, I’m going after @Ƶ’s alpha-matic.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-01 18:45:01

*Thread Reply:* Just one photo

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-01 18:45:51

*Thread Reply:* Better bid

👍 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-01 18:46:12

*Thread Reply:* Or he'll cancel the item and post at a higher start price. 😂

😆 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 12:25:56

New Pentel Identification Book loaded to the Catalog directory (v2022.09). Here is a list of the changes from v220 A203 Added PD105C New Photo PD105T/PD107T New Photo & Info PR505 New Info PR1005 New Info Q1015 New Photo Rush On Goal New Photo & Info (two new variants identified) S-15 New Photo S55/S57/S59 New Photo Sharp 9 (PS-100) New Info Unknown 05 Updated Name Unknown 07 Changed to PX21 Disney Sharp Changed to D109 DA223 Added DA404 Added DA410 Added DP15 New Photo & Info DP325 Adjusted Layout DQE1 Corrected to DQE1A PQ5 New Photo & Info PQ6 New Info WBA401 Added

👍 Pearsonified, First-Sail, Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 12:28:01

I am going to load this version to a post on my nimrodd.net blog, and start posting it out to Reddit, and elsewhere.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 16:12:49

*Thread Reply:* It is now on my website, posted on Reddit, Twitter, Instagram and Facebook groups.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 17:36:13

*Thread Reply:* Awesome!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 17:36:47

*Thread Reply:* What are the Facebook groups like? I've been off of Facebook for over a decade.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 19:08:40

*Thread Reply:* There are 3 mechanical pencil groups I posted this to.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 19:32:14

Looking at my Plant pencils I noticed that the Rose version has Pentel 0.5 and the others just have 0.5. I assumed these 3 came as a set.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 19:34:21

*Thread Reply:* Yes my Rose sample is filthy.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-02 20:18:28

*Thread Reply:* The corn and wheat are likely in a series. But the rose is different in enough ways to make one wonder it they are just similar. We have no model numbers for these yet.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-02 20:27:31

*Thread Reply:* They are PS705. Somewhere I have a picture with the 12 pack box

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-02 20:31:36

*Thread Reply:* Of course you are right. Teaches me to say things without checking.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-03 09:53:06

*Thread Reply:* I think the Corn and Wheat were together, but the Rose was not

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-03 09:53:43

*Thread Reply:* Or rather, I've seen Corn and Wheat presented together on old Japanese and Korean blogs. I've not seem them presented with the Rose, tho

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 09:54:10

*Thread Reply:* That somewhat makes sense. Corn and wheat are food. Roses aren't.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 10:19:50

*Thread Reply:* That was my issue with giving them a name, and why I settled on Plant. The packaged pencils I have the photo of in the box are the Corn and Wheat. I don't have any pics of packaged Rose pencils. But until proven otherwise, I am going to leave the 3 bunched together in the book.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 10:22:06

*Thread Reply:* Here are the pics I have. They were from an old auction on bonanza.com.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 10:37:47

*Thread Reply:* Looking at the picture of the box in the first picture, it does not show the Plants on the pencil, but it does show "Pentel 0.5", which is what is printed on the Rose pencil. The Corn and Wheat in the tray just show the 0.5 on the front, as @sideKnocks (atxalais) pointed out. I wonder if this pencil first came out as the Rose, then was later released as the Corn and Wheat, but as Pentel was prone to do, they kept using the old box.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 03:55:09

Group shot of my PD345/505 fam :-)

❤️ Heath, sideKnocks (atxalais), First-Sail, Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 05:54:43

*Thread Reply:* The greatest family of all time. Kings and queens right there.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 17:13:42

A single piece from my favorite P200 set. That's a bit of a crazy price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pentel-P205-Mechanical-Pencil-Overseas-Limited-Vintage-Color-0-5-mm-Used-5569MN-/374055892557?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0|https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pentel-P205-Mechanical-Pencil-Overseas-Limited-Vintage-Color-0-5-mm-Used-5569MN-/374055892557?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 17:14:06

*Thread Reply:* Glad I paid like $12 a piece for my sets.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-03 17:30:53

*Thread Reply:* https://www.ebay.com/itm/154940917882?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bgxj1ffqROe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mwmj4jqdqus&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/154940917882?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bgxj1ffqROe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mwmj4jqdqus&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-03 17:32:03

*Thread Reply:* Yup that's Ron’s listing. Much more reasonable of a price.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 09:06:21

*Thread Reply:* These would be beyond badass if they didn't have plating on the metal pieces

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 12:54:40

I have to stop looking at Germ's Pencils11 blog. I found 5 more UNKNOWN pencils on this blog post. https://web.archive.org/web/20120207092152/http://pencils11.blogspot.com/2011/06/full-excalibur-case-48-pencils.html On the first picture: Unknown 1 #3 Never seen one like this before Unknown 2 #7-9 Appears to be a 0.7mm version of the SG15 Unknown 3 #10 I have never seen an SG model pencil without any markings below the clip Unknown 4 #15 0.7mm version of the SG33/SG35? On the second picture Unknown 5 #8-9 Appears to be an Excalibur version of the SG15

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 13:09:07

*Thread Reply:* I can't deal with this stress Jimmy. Please turn the internet off for a while.

😂 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 13:44:20

*Thread Reply:* the freaking 0.7mm SG37ish got me excited.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 13:46:52

*Thread Reply:* the two stickers

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 13:49:31

*Thread Reply:* Had the price sticker been over the 7 we would have never known. I just went through all of mine to make sure I didn't have a hidden 7. I never thought to verify that all of the ones I have are .05

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:05:12

*Thread Reply:* I have the green SG33 sticker, and I suspect that the blue one is a faded green.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:06:04

*Thread Reply:* I would have thought so too but nothing else on the sticker seems to have suffered any fading whatsoever

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:14:44

*Thread Reply:* I think the blue sticker might be legit. I feel like I've seen that before, but I cannot remember offhand

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:15:26

*Thread Reply:* The sticker on my SG33 is blue. The green one is now curious (at least from my perspective)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:15:29

*Thread Reply:* It is in English vs Japanese on the Green. I cannot remember what language mine are at home.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:16:35

*Thread Reply:* My blue one is in Japanese 😂

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:16:53

*Thread Reply:* minor variations will kill us all

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:16:58

*Thread Reply:* my green one is English

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 20:35:40

*Thread Reply:* I just started looking at my SG33 pencils (I have 5 of them). My Green label is in Japanese, I then have another with the square 80's label, the second version, that does not have the JIS permit number.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:19:06

*Thread Reply:* I have 3 that do not have labels, then I noticed that one of those is Unknown 3 above. It does not have any text under the label, only Japan around the back, just above the ring.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:19:53

*Thread Reply:* Interesting.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:20:06

*Thread Reply:* You pulled stickers off?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:20:35

*Thread Reply:* No, I got these 3 without stickers.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:21:36

*Thread Reply:* I need to go looking at what I got more closely

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:23:53

*Thread Reply:* The first picture is the unmarked SG33. Picture 2 has the "3" on the front, and Picture 3 shows the inside of the grips; on the left is the "3" pencil and on the right is the unmarked. As you can see in picture 1, there are 2 different threads on the clutch. This confirms that this is a very early 0.3mm, so I am going to file it under the SG33/SV.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:25:48

*Thread Reply:* The unmarked one has Pentel on the pocket clip

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:26:27

*Thread Reply:* Yes, plus the stylized P at the top of the clip

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:28:05

*Thread Reply:* Eraser caps different too?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:35:24

*Thread Reply:* Yes. As far as I can tell, the tips are the same though.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:37:36

*Thread Reply:* The Unknown 5 pencil, that appears to be an Excalibur has the word Pentel, just above the ring, then the Excalibur logo above that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:38:07

*Thread Reply:* The ring though, is an SG ring, not an Excalibur ring.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:38:22

*Thread Reply:* Those rings come off

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:38:28

*Thread Reply:* Wonder if it was switched

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:39:20

*Thread Reply:* How do you get them off? To me it looks like you would have to remove the threads to get it off.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:44:09

*Thread Reply:* Ok maybe they don't all come off. I just checked some of mine and some spin and some don't. I do know I have one somewhere that comes off.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:44:28

*Thread Reply:* Also the mystery piece you and I have the ring comes off

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:44:58

*Thread Reply:* Unknown model 4

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:46:35

*Thread Reply:* I found a better picture of Unknown 1 at https://web.archive.org/web/20120217235536/http://pencils11.blogspot.com/2010/12/sub-groups.html. I realized that I have seen that connection between the body and the grip. I found it. Unknown 1

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:47:08

*Thread Reply:* And the matching type pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:48:06

*Thread Reply:* Wrong picture of Unknown 1. Here is the better picture, where you can see the similarity to the Scepter

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:48:27

*Thread Reply:* Oh man

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:49:04

*Thread Reply:* As you've dug through Germ’s site have you determined where he was sourcing from?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:51:07

*Thread Reply:* No, I have not.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:52:02

*Thread Reply:* Many many years ago I saw a post from him that he was out of the pencil game and was doing more music stuff.

I can't remember where he posted that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:52:25

*Thread Reply:* He musta sold a lot on eBay before we were really buying the deep catalog stuff.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:54:22

*Thread Reply:* I also looked at all of my SG type Excaliburs that say Excalibur above the ring. None of them say Pentel on the clip, but the Unknown 5 does, and it looks like the early style Pentel with the stylized "P" at the top.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:55:10

*Thread Reply:* Yeah and it has the older eraser cap.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:55:14

*Thread Reply:* It must be the first

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:55:58

*Thread Reply:* I do not even see that it has the 3 rings in it. I agree it must be one of the very early Excaliburs.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:56:30

*Thread Reply:* I'm saying it here. Now that we have this realization we'll start seeing them on YJP and Mercari like they've always been there.

🤣 Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:57:09

*Thread Reply:* And Unknown 1 is probably an early Excalibur that changed to the Scepter line.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:57:40

*Thread Reply:* What's the earliest year for Excalibur we know of?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:57:58

*Thread Reply:* 1971

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:58:31

*Thread Reply:* The Excalibur pamphlet in the Catalog file is for the Silver Excalibur.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:58:31

*Thread Reply:* Unknown 1 regarding this post. Not Unknown 1 in your book

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:58:40

*Thread Reply:* Correct

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:58:52

*Thread Reply:* (just for anyone else reading this later)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:51:28

*Thread Reply:* I like the really fine groove lines on the cap of the early SG33 version

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:53:04

*Thread Reply:* That unknown 1 looks like an early Scepter or perhaps even the earliest prototype of the SG line before they developed the trademark tip

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-05 09:10:10

*Thread Reply:* Yes, that is what I have figured out about #1. Once I found the other picture, those rings in the middle were obvious as related to the Scepter.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:23:40

Ok this may just be a result of me not paying attention to a discussion that was had recently but here are some of my Q535 Pop'npops. The yellow booger has an opaque cap and the others are transparent. What's the story here?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:25:23

*Thread Reply:* See the book. There are 2 series of Q535 Pop'npops. The 5 with the transparent cap and 4 that are the same colors as the Q535 Kerry (Red, Blue, Green & Yellow)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:25:45

*Thread Reply:* thanks. Sorry I didn't look there first

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:27:23

*Thread Reply:* Like you of the solid color caps, I only have the Yellow. A Red one came up on eBay for about $65 https://www.ebay.com/itm/304384808649

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:28:04

*Thread Reply:* I have links to the Yaumachiya site for both of them, although the Solids are sold out.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:28:24

*Thread Reply:* I don't recall where I got the yellow one from. I believe I got the transparent caps from Yaumachiya

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:29:07

*Thread Reply:* I think I got my solid yellow in a lot of pencils. My transparent caps all came from Yaumachiya

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:35:39

*Thread Reply:* I just want to know who the first intrepid Japanese person will be who visits every stationery store in small coastal towns and gobbles up all remaining MP inventory. They could start a vintage store that would rule the world

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:36:07

*Thread Reply:* can I be that person?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:36:18

*Thread Reply:* Would be ridiculously fun

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:36:35

*Thread Reply:* I had a chance to go down this rabbit hole in 2010 but was too wedded to this notion I had to "work" lol

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:36:37

*Thread Reply:* too bad I'm not allowed in Japan

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:37:26

*Thread Reply:* I need to win the lottery first.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:37:37

*Thread Reply:* do you play the lottery?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:38:34

*Thread Reply:* Oh, I need to do that to win?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:41:40

*Thread Reply:* that seems to be a step towards winning, yes.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 14:41:49

*Thread Reply:* fun fact: i've never played the lottery

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:17:03

Been using this one this week. Such a great piece. One of my favorite Orenzes

👍 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:30:33

*Thread Reply:* The Mannish line is pretty sweet. The colors feel like they are out of the mid-century pallet. There are many houses in my area which were built in the mid to late 50s. The colors of these pencils are common bathroom and kitchen tile combinations.

Too bad people gut the bathrooms and replace them with generic restoration hardware fixtures with no character or soul.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:31:59

*Thread Reply:* I dislike that as well. I'm an old soul and love houses like that.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:33:35

*Thread Reply:* We have a pink and burgundy bathroom that is original to the house. I am guarding it with my life.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:46:23

*Thread Reply:* I love mid-century stuff. Here was my previous house:

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:47:14

*Thread Reply:* Digging the Orenz, too. Although the tip shape is a little odd, I find the entire Orenz lineup to be quite comfortable in the hand

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:47:30

*Thread Reply:* Dude. That house!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:47:35

*Thread Reply:* I would say the Staedtler 925 25 and the Pentel Orenz are my favorite "normally-priced" moderns

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:47:40

*Thread Reply:* Are the interior shots in the gallery real or rendered?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:47:55

*Thread Reply:* interior shots are real and include some staging furniture from when I sold the home

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:48:05

*Thread Reply:* The red womb chair, Nelson lamp, and credenza are my piecs

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:48:06

*Thread Reply:* That place is sick

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:48:07

*Thread Reply:* pieces

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:48:28

*Thread Reply:* It was a cool house for sure. Terrible climate control and a wonky yard; only 2 real bedrooms...

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-05 08:48:36

*Thread Reply:* But it was badass 😂

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:30:10

*Thread Reply:* PH12 according to Nimrodd’s catalog

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-04 21:40:34

*Thread Reply:* Yes, that is the same picture I used, straight out of the US 1980 catalog.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 06:48:46

Technica PD1055… if you've ever wondered about the design, it was inspired by fighter planes and the button was supposed to be the cockpit. The text says the tip is meant to evoke the feel of a fighter’s machine gun port.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 07:25:52

*Thread Reply:* This is amazing!! Thanks for sharing.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 07:26:10

*Thread Reply:* Any idea on year?

2022-05-06 07:32:22

*Thread Reply:* Oh yeah that is awesome!

2022-05-06 07:35:10

*Thread Reply:* Is that a Pentel catalog or an advertisement?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 09:04:19

*Thread Reply:* It's an ad that was sold on Mercari I don't know when… I googled for ‘ぺんてるコックピット’ / Pentel Cockpit…

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 09:12:24

*Thread Reply:* To add on, this looks like an ad on the back cover of a magazine. I think the spine mentions Showa 48, May 1st. That’s 1973?

Headline ‘はやてのシャープ’ roughly means ‘Dashing Sharp’.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 09:13:49

*Thread Reply:* Well that fits with my suspension that it came out before the pd1065 which supposedly was the first side knock

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 09:14:14

*Thread Reply:* But then pentel later ignored the pd1065 and claimed the pd345 was the first side knock

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 09:20:14

*Thread Reply:* The history of Pentel side-knocks… needs to be an illustrated chapbook

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-06 09:59:27

*Thread Reply:* 1960s Braniff and TWA vibes 🤙:skintone6:

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-06 16:44:12

Step up fellas…

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1050759001

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-09 09:10:50

*Thread Reply:* Shame these are so expensive. They're cool in the same way weird animals in the zoo are cool, but I don't think they're cool in the "most expensive MP of all time" way at all

2022-05-07 09:27:27

Did someone see this on eBay?

2022-05-07 10:08:27

*Thread Reply:* If @sideKnocks (atxalais) did he’s probably in the hospital.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-07 13:13:33

*Thread Reply:* ...or he is driving there to pick it up in person.

😆 Heath
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-07 13:13:41

*Thread Reply:* When was this listed?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-07 17:19:15

*Thread Reply:* I'm being very calm until more clarity is shared. That was quite a tease.

2022-05-09 04:32:41

*Thread Reply:* Anyone wish to explain why this is special?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 07:18:48

Pentel Sharp 9, set of 3 for auction. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/1050978814

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 07:19:12

*Thread Reply:* If I had not just closed out my ZenMarket box...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 07:33:29

*Thread Reply:* I saw those and considered but I already have several of those and those are pretty yellowed.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 07:38:36

*Thread Reply:* Yes, I have 2 blue on the way, but I don't have any red.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 08:02:43

Here is an even better one. All blue, but it has the box. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u1051052616

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 08:03:51

*Thread Reply:* Sometimes you have to gamble on these and hope they send the box

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 08:04:38

*Thread Reply:* Well, since 2 of the 3 pictures are just of the box, that would be my bet on this auction.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-09 10:07:59

Tokyu Hands Kerry 👀 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u1050896721

ヤフオク!
👀 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 10:08:20

*Thread Reply:* I placed the first bid at 0.01

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 10:08:22

*Thread Reply:* it felt good

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-09 10:08:25

*Thread Reply:* but it didnt last long

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 15:14:47

Does someone have a Blue PS45 that they can take a picture of on a white background?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 15:15:19

*Thread Reply:* I do

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 21:31:04

With the Amazon sale we're going to start seeing a lot of the Limited Edition 50 years p200 box sets for sale on eBay for a while.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 21:52:52

I picked up several, just to drop my per box price down to something more reasonable. I will probably have to hold on to them for a year or two, but...

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 21:54:24

Could you guys take a look at this article I have put together about the Excalibur and SG Pencils and let me know what you think, if there are any changes needed, am I full of shit, etc.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 22:31:36

Ok I'm definitely not as well versed in Pentel history, but wasn't there a ‘Kerry type’ Excalibur cap-knock model? Could've sworn I'd seen them on YJA before but always stayed away due to the stratospheric starting bids.

👍 Pearsonified, First-Sail
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 22:34:17

And… just for completion, Excalibur was also used for some models of roller pens and fine tip pens. One of them is the Roll Alloy RX-30, closest thing to a matching Kerry rollerball.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-12 12:27:13

*Thread Reply:* Actually, the R1000 was designed as a match to the blacke P1035 Kerry. http://mysupplyroom.blogspot.com/2019/03/pentel.html

mysupplyroom.blogspot.com
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 22:56:36

https://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/k185976164/

買うときも売るときも オークファン -ヤフオク!などオークションの情報が満載 | 新品から中古まであらゆる商品の最安値を徹底比較!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 22:58:26

*Thread Reply:* That is the PXE5. It is in the pencil book, but I do not know the timeframe for them.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-11 10:28:54

*Thread Reply:* just an incredible pencil 💯

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-11 14:57:24

*Thread Reply:* I am wrong. The PXE5 only appears in the 1982 US catalog. I do not believe any of the other PXE pencils are in there, and I know the PXN pencils are not.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-11 20:52:40

*Thread Reply:* The use of the crown device almost feels like some arbitrary branding decision for greater appeal in foreign markets.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-12 07:15:28

*Thread Reply:* And the name Excalibur is not?

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-12 10:37:42

*Thread Reply:* I mean totally :-)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-10 22:56:42

Yes, this is just about the SG-style pencils and Scepters. I know there are a bunch of Excalibur pens, plus the PXE & PXN Excalibur pencils.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand), First-Sail
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-12 12:30:54

Here is a newer, better version of the Excalibur article, that will be going in the back of the Pentel Book. I may change the title to "Excalibur Crown Pencils", since the later Excalibur pencils and pens switched to a Sword motif on the clip.

👍 First-Sail, sideKnocks (atxalais), Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 06:17:43

Did anyone here get this…?

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s1050825233

ヤフオク!
2022-05-13 09:21:17

*Thread Reply:* What is it?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 09:21:57

*Thread Reply:* A mechanical pencil.

😆 Heath, Ƶ
2022-05-13 09:22:40

*Thread Reply:* I knew I should’ve been more specific

2022-05-13 09:23:13

*Thread Reply:* What model is that?

2022-05-13 09:23:27

*Thread Reply:* Anything you've seen before?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 09:23:50

*Thread Reply:* It's the Sharp L.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 09:23:53

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I have one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 09:24:10

*Thread Reply:* I was trying to get this one as well but I lost out.

2022-05-13 09:24:41

*Thread Reply:* Ah, your bid was weak?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 09:25:15

*Thread Reply:* Like a baby

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:17:24

*Thread Reply:* Dammit! Another one I haven't seen before

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 16:18:55

Did someone here win this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/115350699419?nma=true&si=iGU59Q0%252BtKgD15z3tXXD48ukaWo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-13 16:22:18

*Thread Reply:* Looks to still be available

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-13 16:25:48

*Thread Reply:* Too much

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:18:50

Nintendo PD345 https://www.ebay.com/itm/124995785968

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:19:28

*Thread Reply:* This has been listed forever. He originally had it at $99

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:19:33

*Thread Reply:* It's a PD349

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:20:13

*Thread Reply:* ewwwww, 349

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:20:47

*Thread Reply:* You love 0.9 Wodie

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:21:09

*Thread Reply:* 2.25 times bigger than the GOAT

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 09:21:25

*Thread Reply:* Math on a Monday morning.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-16 20:54:41

Are there multiple Gen 2 pencils?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125110169879?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=YdK9V80bQPe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mwmj4jqdqus&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/125110169879?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=YdK9V80bQPe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mwmj4jqdqus&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 20:59:54

*Thread Reply:* Doesn't look like it.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-16 21:03:35

*Thread Reply:* Sure not all of them but I see like four pencils with no text where it should be.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 21:06:28

*Thread Reply:* I'd have to look closer. I figured it was just rubbed off.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-16 21:34:54

*Thread Reply:* I don't see any indications of Gen 2 pencils. For Gen 2 & 3, one of the main things to look for is the molded size on the opposite side from the cutout.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-23 17:14:59

*Thread Reply:* It is used (but it comes with two leads!).

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-24 17:52:22

Got these from a bulk listing. Not in the best shape but some elbow grease and barkeepers friend shall do the trick.

❤️ Ƶ, Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-05-24 18:12:35

*Thread Reply:* Nice set! How do you use the barkeepers friend? Is it on the plastic, or the metal parts, everywhere? Do you use the powder or is there a liquid? Doesn't it scratch the metal? Maybe this is better in #other

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-24 18:23:26

*Thread Reply:* Check out the topic on the #helpme channel.

👍 Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-24 18:24:06

*Thread Reply:* https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C022B454SGG/p1643556115139519

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Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-25 09:48:21

*Thread Reply:* Score of the year?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-25 09:48:48

*Thread Reply:* Never even knew the green P1075 existed

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-25 09:48:57

*Thread Reply:* And having blue and yellow specimens? chef's kiss

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 18:12:47

*Thread Reply:* Yeah these are fun. I just need red now.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-05-25 09:48:15

Absolutely phenomenal!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 12:40:39

Does anyone know what the model # is for this one?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 12:57:31

All I know is it is a P225

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 12:57:54

*Thread Reply:* Do we know of just an all white P225?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 14:37:04

*Thread Reply:* Yes. I bought a box of them several years ago. I also have that pencil, as well as what I call the McDonalds (it's not) version. I will take pictures of them tonight. https://www.flickr.com/photos/nimrodd/51534287902

Flickr
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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 14:38:02

*Thread Reply:* ok. I need to track one of those down.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 14:43:16

*Thread Reply:* I suspect they were made for marketing companies to print on, since they have no text on them at all.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 14:43:45

*Thread Reply:* that makes sense. Like the white PD345

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 14:45:03

*Thread Reply:* Yes

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 21:16:19

*Thread Reply:* Here are the two P225 character pencils.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 21:17:15

*Thread Reply:* I have the balloon one. I don't think I've ever seen that other one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 18:13:31

Y'all may have already seen this but here is an ad for the original sharp.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 18:15:01

*Thread Reply:*

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-05-25 18:37:39

*Thread Reply:* I love them pic you posted, wonderin' if I share it, would you mind? I know a couple people on line who would love it, please reply.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 19:59:53

*Thread Reply:* Go for it

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-25 21:25:13

*Thread Reply:* This is now in the Catalog directory

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
2022-05-26 09:54:37

*Thread Reply:* LOL, love the “motivation and clerical efficiency increased by 30%”

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-29 00:39:06

Ahhhh… Class of 1971

🙌 Pearsonified
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-05-29 00:39:49

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b1025934275

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-05-29 20:11:40

I grabbed that image a while ago, and it is in the Catalogs directory under the subdirectory, "Ads, Instructions and Pamphlets"

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-02 10:16:40

I lost this auction, then the seller came back because the winner cancelled, so I won this for about $200 with US shipping and other White Rabbit proxy fees. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1051753361

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-02 10:17:07

*Thread Reply:* My first Mechanica, and another Graph II

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-02 10:18:21

*Thread Reply:* Nice! I lost an auction recently and then ended up winning it when they canceled the last bid.

2022-06-02 10:24:43

*Thread Reply:* Very nice!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-02 13:03:37

*Thread Reply:* Heyyyyy, awesome!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-03 15:02:45

Does anyone have a PMG with just the italicized "0.3mm" text? I want to see if I can determine which is older, that version or the one that says PMG after it. I suspect the non-PMG text is on the older pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-03 15:03:33

*Thread Reply:* I am trying to find an old, early-70's version of the PMG, so I can see what it looks like on the inside.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-03 15:04:59

*Thread Reply:* Trying to see if I can tell which came first, it or the Graph II. I know the PMG is in the Japan 70's One-Sheet, along with the Graph.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-05 22:09:18

Just saw this up on Mercari. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m91406618830

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-09 10:54:31

I was looking at a pencil on Mercari and noticed something in the description that peeked my interest. The seller says, "I contacted Pentel's Customer Relations Office, but the 850A does not have a corresponding product in the "List of past products" and "Product catalog (1977-this year)", so I do not know when the product is."

Does someone have any contact at Pentel Japan, who might be able to get a copy of these?

Here is the pencil on Mercari: https://jp.mercari.com/item/m31824617418

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-12 04:23:56

Proper use of Pentel Technica PD1055 with relevant study aids…

🙌 Pearsonified, sideKnocks (atxalais), Dry, Kiwi-d
👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-12 16:39:44

*Thread Reply:* But the wing is pressing into the cockpit. 🤣

😂 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-12 19:13:54

*Thread Reply:* Hahha that's clever!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-12 19:34:25

*Thread Reply:* With manga lines :-)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-12 19:36:07

*Thread Reply:* Ok that's fun.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-12 19:36:17

*Thread Reply:* My wallpaper for a while. Thanks.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:15:16

Bidding on a couple of hard to find items on Yahoo Japan. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1054385567

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:15:30

*Thread Reply:* https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1054380819

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:17:17

*Thread Reply:* Hopefully, I can win the Sharp L. On the second one, I first thought it was the CDT Item 15, but it appears to be a white grip ML5.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:18:03

*Thread Reply:* yeah I had my eye on that ML5. I already had the Sharp L

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:18:49

*Thread Reply:* I remember you picked up that green one from SingaporeMechanicalPencils.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:42:52

*Thread Reply:* I tried to make a big purchase from SMP, but he got pissed that I didn't want to pay over $150 for any singular pencil

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:42:56

*Thread Reply:* so he canned the deal

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:43:06

*Thread Reply:* "you just want all the cheap ones"

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:43:11

*Thread Reply:* Well bro, those are the only fkn ones I don't have

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:43:16

*Thread Reply:* besides the H-3003 or some ish

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 11:18:10

*Thread Reply:* I have never had problems with SMP. I even did offers of less than the listing.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 10:44:56

Does anyone know who the Montana Writing Company on eBay is? He/she posts some really strong pieces for being here in the USA and we not knowing who it is.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 11:09:19

*Thread Reply:* I've wondered this for a while. He's had some pieces I've rarely been able to find, so I figure he must do monthly Buyee shipments (or something similar).

Or perhaps he's just got a connection somewhere in Asia and has established a pipeline that way

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 11:19:07

*Thread Reply:* His name is Lee Hancock, but that is all I know.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-06-13 11:44:24

*Thread Reply:* Their blog https://mtwritingco.com/

The Montana Writing Company
} leehancock7609 (https://mtwritingco.com/author/leehancock7609/)
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-06-27 17:53:29

*Thread Reply:* I think he/she is in r/mechanicalpencils with user u/mtwritingco

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-27 20:08:04

*Thread Reply:* Doesn't look like he has been active for a couple of years

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:41:21

So who bought the red P1075 that was on eBay?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:42:45

That was me, along with the yellow one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:43:05

I just logged on to buy it. 😂

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:45:29

Did you also get the pink injecto?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:46:03

Yes, and on Saturday, I got the Black injecto. First ones I have seen for sale

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:55:18

*Thread Reply:* Wait, wut? A black injecto?!?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 14:55:39

*Thread Reply:* Pink, too?!? 😱

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 15:05:06

*Thread Reply:* The Q604, not the P154

👍 Ƶ
😆 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 15:30:25

*Thread Reply:* ohhhh

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-13 15:30:30

*Thread Reply:* still totally cool

2022-06-13 15:54:58

How did I miss that…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 15:56:25

Making sure we are talking about the same Injecto.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 15:57:19

These are the Q604 Pop'npop Injectos that I purchased https://www.ebay.com/itm/155025100244 https://www.ebay.com/itm/165529664490

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-13 16:34:44

*Thread Reply:* Yep that's what I was talking about

2022-06-14 01:57:23

*Thread Reply:* Gotcha!! Thank you for the clarification!!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-14 12:05:40

Does anyone here have a Sharp 7?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:45:40

*Thread Reply:* I do not and it kills me. I have only seen one available for sale twice and I've missed out on both.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:57:57

*Thread Reply:* Didn't we all bid on that one but lose. We definitely made someone pay for their interest in one of "our" pencils.

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:46:09

The Hue is one of my favorite models.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:46:46

*Thread Reply:* The Hue, PD345, and the regular plastic Orenz are some of my favorite Pentel pieces. Very obsessed with them.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:56:55

*Thread Reply:* I really like the look of the Hue's grip. Have you spent any quality time using one?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:57:46

*Thread Reply:* I have and I really like it but I have this problem with wanting to keep things in new condition that I have a hard time using one without reservations.

2022-06-15 18:58:33

*Thread Reply:* That just means you use the doubles and keep a set aside.

☝️ Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:59:12

*Thread Reply:* That would work for a normal person

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-15 18:59:26

*Thread Reply:* This does mean that your collection takes up twice as much space and takes twice as long to complete.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:00:57

*Thread Reply:* My whole mechanical pencil obsession started with me ruining a yellow PD345 with nail polish remover (removing the price sticker).

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:01:14

*Thread Reply:* Now I want every one to stay perfect

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:01:33

*Thread Reply:* I do have a few dozen daily use pencils that I use and abuse though.

👍 Heath
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:03:51

*Thread Reply:* The imperfect ones get all of the fun while the pretty girls stay home on Saturday night (or something like that).

😂 Heath
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:30:53

*Thread Reply:* That elusive black (and dark green)…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:38:19

*Thread Reply:* It's more dark green than black in person.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-15 19:43:13

*Thread Reply:* Ahhhh that could be the answer

2022-06-16 07:23:06

*Thread Reply:* I'm curious what the yellow pd345 looks like after the nail polish remover incident.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 07:53:14

*Thread Reply:* I don't have it anymore. That was back in like 1989

2022-06-16 07:40:49

My new luggage tag from zazzle. I know it's not exactly pentel but it's pentel-related.

👍 Heath, sideKnocks (atxalais), Kiwi-d
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 07:48:02

*Thread Reply:* Nice.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 08:04:14

*Thread Reply:* Gonna be cool when someone recognizes what that is.

2022-06-17 07:55:17

*Thread Reply:* Hopefully someone comments along the way

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 07:48:51

Found another Rush On Goal that I don't have, and am bidding on. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m1054744351

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 07:57:57

*Thread Reply:* You musta outbid me.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 07:58:03

*Thread Reply:* I'll let you have this

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 08:08:52

*Thread Reply:* I checked on here to see if someone else bid on it first.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:53:43

*Thread Reply:* I won this. This makes 8 of 12 that I will own.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:56:37

*Thread Reply:* Awesome! Glad one of us got it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:56:52

*Thread Reply:* Gaw it went for more than I thought

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 09:10:14

*Thread Reply:* Yeah...😳

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 09:10:39

*Thread Reply:* Gotta say I'm surprised that there were other bidders taking it that high.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 09:11:15

*Thread Reply:* I didn't bid on those.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 09:11:45

*Thread Reply:* Well I did place the first bid but once you wanted it I stepped aside

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 09:11:55

*Thread Reply:* You were collecting those way before I had any interest

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 08:15:17

Just saw this on eBay. I have wanted one of these for a while. Not sure if I want to bid this high for it though. https://www.ebay.com/itm/265738737190

eBay
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:27:16

*Thread Reply:* That is pretty cool. I wonder who this was aimed at? Stationary stores?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:28:11

*Thread Reply:* I am going to wait and see what the bids are like next Wednesday.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:28:37

*Thread Reply:* Someone I have corresponded with has one of these, and that is how I found out about them.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:28:58

*Thread Reply:* I cannot remember who it is that has it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:31:24

*Thread Reply:* Are the pliers for unscrewing mechanisms from the bodies of pencils? A few years ago I bought a lot off of ebay which had a bunch of tips, clips, and caps.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:32:28

*Thread Reply:* That would be my guess. Some of the older 60's and 70's pencils screw in from the front.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:36:18

*Thread Reply:* Looking closer now, I want this. Primarily just for what it is, and also for some of the parts, such as the PMG caps that are in there.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-16 19:38:32

*Thread Reply:* Which ones are the PMG caps?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 20:43:02

*Thread Reply:* Dang it, now that I look closer, what I thought was a PMG cap (bottom of the middle of the 5 separators) is a normal cap for the reservoirs below. What I thought was the split in the PMG cap, is the indention in a normal cap.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-17 13:24:51

*Thread Reply:* Had no idea these existed

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-17 13:25:02

*Thread Reply:* I thought for sure I saw a PMG tip

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-17 13:25:05

*Thread Reply:* 0.3mm

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 13:37:05

*Thread Reply:* Yes. I saw a PMG tip in the leftmost compartment

🙌 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 15:03:13

*Thread Reply:* Just now seeing this. I got this

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 15:15:15

*Thread Reply:* Great.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:25:58

I am bidding on this one: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o1054850460

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:26:54

*Thread Reply:* Go for it. I downloaded the picture to add the info to the book, but decided not to bid on it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:27:09

*Thread Reply:* What is it?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:27:17

*Thread Reply:* A 102

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:27:36

*Thread Reply:* There is the 100, 101 and now the 102

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:28:14

*Thread Reply:* I have no idea what is going on at the top of this one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:29:24

*Thread Reply:* ahh ok. The top got me

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:29:28

*Thread Reply:* Hopefully, you will be able to tell us WHEN you get it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-16 10:29:51

*Thread Reply:* And get me a better picture for the book.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 00:21:15

Can anyone make out the date on the reserve tube of my P2135?

🙌 Pearsonified
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-17 02:07:43

*Thread Reply:* Looks like 800707 to me. Actually the first 8 is a guess with the knowledge that the date codes were not printed later than the early 80s nor sooner than the mid 70s.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 03:22:07

*Thread Reply:* I think you're right. Not possible to be a 50 or 60 for sure.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 07:24:29

Is anyone on here bidding on this auction? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1054772800

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 07:37:18

*Thread Reply:* Nope.

What in there are you interested in?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 08:21:30

*Thread Reply:* The black Sharp 11 0.9mm with stickers.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 10:01:37

*Thread Reply:* ahh yes!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 10:01:55

*Thread Reply:* 0.9mm, @Pearsonified's favorite!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 10:02:42

*Thread Reply:* Yes, with the Platinums in there, I was wondering if maybe he had bid on it.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-17 13:23:40

*Thread Reply:* [facepalm]

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-17 13:23:59

*Thread Reply:* Definitely a longtail Pentel collector's dream!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 07:26:06

Not I :-)

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-17 19:54:23

Some interesting pencils. The brown* and clear pencils came in the last shipment. Pentel was not the only maker of this style of pencil. The black one is Mitsubishi and the clear one is Caceco. All are .9mm. *This might actually be a dark red. 🤷

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 19:56:31

*Thread Reply:* I like these pencils a lot. A lot lot.

Yea I think that's a dark red.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 19:58:38

*Thread Reply:* Did you get a bunch of the Cacecos? Do I remember that listing correctly?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-17 20:03:00

*Thread Reply:* Yes. I have several of the Cacecos. One has moved into my EDC. It is replacing a Colleen double knock which exploded on me a few weeks ago.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-17 20:05:08

*Thread Reply:* Were you using protection?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-17 20:08:18

*Thread Reply:* Sadly no. We were social distancing so the collateral damage was limited.

Luckily I had a ML5 with me so I was not deterred from dispensing questionable life advice to a new college graduate.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-19 09:14:31

Going after this…

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f1055046539

ヤフオク!
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-19 15:14:01

I am going for this:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1055058266

ヤフオク!
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-06-19 20:28:18

*Thread Reply:* Do you plan to sell some or keep them all?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-19 22:47:17

*Thread Reply:* I am willing to spread the wealth around. I am really interested in a few of the pencils and the box.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 16:45:58

*Thread Reply:* I have one of those boxes. So cool.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-19 20:22:59

I am bidding on this set. It looks to be an early Excalibur set, before they started printing it on the pencils. https://www.ebay.com/itm/394122305627

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-19 20:38:17

*Thread Reply:* That 7. 🎉

👍 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-19 20:40:12

*Thread Reply:* Unknown Model 10

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-19 21:56:06

*Thread Reply:* And if you look at picture 5, of the pen, the center rings look like the Scepter as well. This may be the set advertised in the Excalibur brochure, the EX-15

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 07:11:37

*Thread Reply:* I believe you are correct.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 07:12:05

*Thread Reply:* I don't think many people are going to pick up on that so hopefully it goes for a reasonable price.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 07:59:27

Looks to have the wrong cap, but not a color I have seen for the S-15. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1055172281

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:16:43

*Thread Reply:* Yeah I just came here to share this one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:24:45

*Thread Reply:* Such a cool piece with that cap. 🤔

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:25:28

*Thread Reply:* Looking at the interior of the cap, it looks like it was made for that.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:26:09

*Thread Reply:* It could be the original cap?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:26:53

*Thread Reply:* It could be. The only ones I have seen have the same type cap as the Sharp 9 S-19.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 08:28:07

*Thread Reply:* My max bid is $40 usd.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-20 11:02:37

*Thread Reply:* The one I have has a matching cap not a metal one. The cap on this one is not like any Pentel cap I have seen. It has really thick walls.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-20 11:03:58

*Thread Reply:* Could you post a good photo of all of the S-15s you have for the book? Also, do you have one of the boxes?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-20 11:08:22

*Thread Reply:* Sure. It will be another week before I will likely take any good quality pictures. I think that I posted some pictures of all of the colors (except for the dark red one) here a while back.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:27:25

Pretty excited about this green acrylic case.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:30:33

Where did you get this? And do you know anything about it?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:32:32

*Thread Reply:* eBay.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:32:36

*Thread Reply:* All I know is that it's old

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:33:07

*Thread Reply:* https://www.ebay.com/itm/394111393991?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=YFCUOZdfTMq&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/394111393991?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=YFCUOZdfTMq&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:33:21

*Thread Reply:* I got it for $35

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:35:13

*Thread Reply:* I have a feeling it is early 70's, when they still used the Flying Dragon trademark and had already changed logo.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-21 19:36:28

*Thread Reply:* That sounds about right

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 07:12:54

Don't know if anyone is looking for a Stainless Steel PEL. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u1055383023

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 18:02:55

*Thread Reply:* Is this PEL different than the regular PEL I have?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 18:29:55

*Thread Reply:* If you check the book, it is the bottom one in the picture

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 18:56:19

*Thread Reply:* Home now. Here is the image.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 18:56:56

*Thread Reply:* Oh my

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 19:01:49

*Thread Reply:* I have the black at the top and the bottom one. Plus in my order from Japan, I got the red one (not showing - like the top black and blue), plus the solid black. So the only one I won't have is the blue one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 19:02:29

*Thread Reply:* I have the regular silver one that's it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 19:06:41

*Thread Reply:* The bottom one?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 19:08:51

*Thread Reply:* Nah. The top one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-22 19:19:11

*Thread Reply:* This is my only PEL

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-22 10:41:07

Thinking about bidding on this because I could use the Platinum and the Colleen, too

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-06-23 08:47:06

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j1055218279

ヤフオク!
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 09:00:12

Very sexy! Hope some here lands it!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 09:18:58

I looked at this, but I have that color (although I don't have the price sticker). A little on the high side on pricing.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 20:01:22

Here's my Pentel 9 box.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 20:05:53

*Thread Reply:* ニュータイプ / New Type! Love how raw this looks compared to the later cleaned up box designs. It's like a copy shop assistant stuck some cutouts of the pencil and logo, used a Sign Pen To scribble the rest and called it a day. :-)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 20:07:02

*Thread Reply:* Yes! I totally agree.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 20:07:21

*Thread Reply:* Not sure how accurate the translation to Weird is

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 20:09:28

*Thread Reply:* ML algorithm probably had trouble parsing the stylised type for ぺんてるand came up with へんてる/‘hen-teru’… ‘to be weird’

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-23 20:10:00

*Thread Reply:* Ahh yes

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 07:27:39

*Thread Reply:* Is there any printing on the edge?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 08:20:50

*Thread Reply:* This is what I wanted to see. The third image has the actual part number on it: S-19

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 07:03:47

I thought I saw someone on here mention that the PS513(s) that they had, and I have in the book show the 3 above the Pentel, where the US catalogs all show them with the Pentel above the 3. I finally found one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/195162397861

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 07:41:54

*Thread Reply:* I must have missed that convo.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 07:42:16

*Thread Reply:* Here is one of my PS513s…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 07:45:23

*Thread Reply:* I can't find it either. Maybe it was on Reddit.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-24 10:11:04

*Thread Reply:* With the old logo the 3 is above the Pentel. Sorry for the poor picture.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 10:13:16

*Thread Reply:* And the 3 over Pentel is all I have found on auction sites, since I have been looking for these.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 10:16:24

*Thread Reply:* I need to get one of the 3 over Pentel then

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-24 10:33:31

*Thread Reply:* I completely misunderstood what you were saying @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd). I have not been looking for them lately, but at one time the newer version was much more common on the sites.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-28 11:57:56

*Thread Reply:* I received my Pentel over 3 PS513 pencil today. I noticed that the old 3 over Pentel is with the old Pentel type-style font, and the Pentel over 3 is the new logo Pentel. Needless to say, new picture and information for the book.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 19:17:41

*Thread Reply:* And now, another one has shown up. https://www.ebay.com/itm/185491189112

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 19:18:02

*Thread Reply:* I just saw that. Steep price.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 10:49:19

I am not an expert on the PMG. I have one in a package that doesn't have a pocket clip or a tip protector cap. Any idea why it was sold like this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:26:27

Look in the cutout, where it says Pentel. What style font is the Pentel in? Old style all upper case, or newer Logo style?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:27:35

newer logo style

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:36:00

I purchased one (still in Japan) that has the clip, but not the cap. It has a yellow ring, and the font in the cutout is in the old-style upper case. The seller says that the ones in this era, did not have the cap. Not sure I believe that, since the tip and the extender have the receiver ring for the cap retainer bump. Another thing he says is "PENTEL GRAPH 0.3mm Knocking causes the core to come off Operation ◯ Replacement base Not compatible with the PMG that comes with this set." This auction comes with an extra tip that is "Not compatible"? I believe this may be one of the initial PMG pencils and this explains some of this (old style font, incompatible tips, yellow ring). And the fact that this auction comes with a Mechanica 0.3mm as well, is even better. https://jp.mercari.com/item/m46510004877

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:39:46

Isn't that the cap on the end? Above the lead indicator ring?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:40:07

It looks like it has the detent to hold it on the extender/tip.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:41:01

ahh you're right. Never had one of these before and havent taken it out of the package yet. What about the pocket clip?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:41:53

Don't know what to say about that, but the PMG from that era uses the same clip as on any P200 pencil

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:42:35

Any beyond P200 Gen 1, I should say.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:42:37

My PG**s in this same kind of packaging has the pocket clip

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 11:51:58

I would just get one from a P200 and put it on there. I have plenty of extras if you need them.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 12:41:52

*Thread Reply:* I was just wondering why it didn't come with a clip set to the side like this…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-24 12:42:02

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-27 06:47:10

Here's a Clicsharp auction…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195170424585?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FouiUDQ7SXS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/195170424585?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FouiUDQ7SXS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-27 06:58:39

This listing identifies Unknown 01 as P305 🤷‍♂️:skintone2:

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m84870254527

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-27 10:20:00

*Thread Reply:* I put that in the notes, but I think I going forward, I would rather have something more substantial to identify with, such as multiple sources or, even better, a box.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-27 10:20:33

*Thread Reply:* yeah I am not confident that that's the model #

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-27 11:23:20

*Thread Reply:* The rest of the description does not inspire confidence that they are an expert. Is there a way on Mercari to ask the seller questions about an item?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-27 14:55:25

*Thread Reply:* If you have a login, on the right there is a Comment section.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 12:38:44

Got my EX-15 set with the Unknown Model 10, and an early R-10 Rolling Writer. The interesting thing about the R-10, is the band in the middle, that matches up to the Unknown Model 11/Scepter pencils.

❤️ sideKnocks (atxalais)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 12:49:40

*Thread Reply:* 🤔

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 12:49:56

*Thread Reply:* Does the backside of the pencil have the Excalibur logo?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 13:26:14

*Thread Reply:* No, the pencil does not have the Excalibur logo, just the 7, like it might be a SG37.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-06-30 13:28:53

*Thread Reply:* Usually the Excalibur pencils have the crown type connector, right? @Kiwi-d did a blog post on this at some point.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 14:37:33

*Thread Reply:* Yes, but this set, plus Unknown Model 08 & 11 are very early Excaliburs. They don't even have Excalibur anywhere on the pencil/pen, just the Crown above Pentel. @Kiwi-d did not have any of these. I don

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 14:38:15

*Thread Reply:* @Kiwi-d did not have any of these. I don't even think he had any of the Japanese Excalibur 0.5mm pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 14:38:55

*Thread Reply:* I found the early Excalibur pencils (08 & 11) on Germ's Pencils11 website on the Wayback machine.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-06-30 14:43:38

*Thread Reply:* I originally was buying this set because I don't have a Silver Excalibur set (US or Japanese). Then I started looking at the listing closer and found that the pencil was the Unknown 10, and the R-10 was stamped in instead of printed, which pushed it back to the early years.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-01 07:47:56

*Thread Reply:* Here are some photos of the new pencil and pen. The first two pics are with an SG33/SV and SG35/SV5 that I already had. The next two are of the new set.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-04 21:57:45

Bidding on these https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q1056563071 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t1056560416

ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-04 21:59:57

*Thread Reply:* Unknown Model 05 and Green P545 Long

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
2022-07-04 22:02:19

*Thread Reply:* See you in six days 😭🤞

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-04 22:23:34

*Thread Reply:* Good luck 🤞

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-11 11:37:01

*Thread Reply:* Welp, that double knock went for a million bucks

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-04 21:58:12

Pissed that this one was sold before my bid could be placed https://jp.mercari.com/item/m39201473560

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 06:10:08

Nice try… https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p1056692228

ヤフオク!
😂 Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 17:57:35

If this was legit it's the deal of the year…

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m57655283078

🥺 Pearsonified
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 19:28:15

Gaw. Look at that price. I sold one of these to @Pearsonified a few months ago for $20

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394150715841?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4qs6v1dbtua&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/394150715841?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4qs6v1dbtua&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 19:29:18

*Thread Reply:* I saw that. That was the first SG pencil I had. Got it in a lot of pencils.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 19:29:52

*Thread Reply:* Pretty sure it's @Kiwi-ds favorite pencil of all time. Rightfully so.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-06 20:20:14

*Thread Reply:* I thought it was the Excalibur

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-06 20:24:43

*Thread Reply:* Nah that is so last year

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-06 21:13:17

*Thread Reply:* That is me: living in the past since 1982.

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais)
2022-07-06 23:43:34

*Thread Reply:* @sideKnocks (atxalais) is right. It is the very first pencil of my collection, i.e. I bought it before I knew I was a collector 😀 It still lived wild and free, out in the open on my desk until a few months ago, but I have become worried about Mrs Dave's sticky fingers so have had to put it away in the collection drawers.

🎉 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-07 15:10:43

*Thread Reply:* I remember the article about the Excaliburs from 2010 and somehow mis-remembered it. No clue how I came to the conclusion about Dave's favorite pencil(s).

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-07 15:17:20

*Thread Reply:* I mentioned that alongside the P200's, they are my favorite pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-07 15:17:31

*Thread Reply:* The Crown Excaliburs and the SG series

2022-07-07 17:41:39

*Thread Reply:* Well I've nothing against Excaliburs, and they are a favourite, but not the favourite.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-07 19:21:43

I'm worried I'm going to start collecting Smashes. Someone please send help.

First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-07-07 19:29:43

*Thread Reply:* Start with a small series (for example, the Smash Works, 4 pencils) and if you decide not to continue at least you will have a complete series and not some loose ones.

2022-07-07 19:37:07

*Thread Reply:* Just accept it.. don't resist. Here's a photo of @Crz Riley smash collection

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-07 19:37:51

*Thread Reply:* You're not helping

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-07 19:38:12

*Thread Reply:* Is there an all white Smash?

2022-07-07 19:41:56

*Thread Reply:* Not an official all white but you can definitely add white grips to the white one on top

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-07 20:04:48

*Thread Reply:* Ok. If they had an all white (body, grips, clip, and top knock) I'd be all over it.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-07 20:27:00

*Thread Reply: It looks like they do*.

**Some assembly required.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-09 10:59:05

It looks like some real vintage stuff has dropped. I am biding on two lots: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n1057044821 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l1057040614

ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 11:17:00

I was thinking about these, but will hold off. I was only looking at the S57 on the second

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:24:34

*Thread Reply:* Does a typical S57 have a 7 or 5 etched on the body?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:25:14

*Thread Reply:* 7. And the S59 would have a 9.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:26:02

*Thread Reply:*

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:26:40

*Thread Reply:* Hmmm. I did not blow up the image. I was looking at the sticker.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:27:52

*Thread Reply:* I believe @Knocktype11 has a gold/green S59. Wonder if it has a 9.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:29:53

*Thread Reply:* I have an older S57 that has the 7 stamped into it. 4th from the top.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:47:08

*Thread Reply:* I do have a S59 that has the 5 five logo. The very early S5x pencils all had that logo regardless of lead size.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-09 16:53:12

*Thread Reply:* Found the link https://knockology.slack.com/archives/C02177HJ50D/p1632871828020900

} knocktype11 (https://knockology.slack.com/team/U0214HUEA9M)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 17:05:40

*Thread Reply:* Thank you for chiming in.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 11:17:53

He has another lot with a green Q535 pop’npop

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 11:31:20

Those are some good lots.

I'm on these..

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/v1057037409?conversionType=mypagewatchlist

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/l1057020845?conversionType=mypagewatchlist

Buyee
Buyee
👍 Ƶ
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-09 15:50:22

Shit, I have already bid on both of those, plus this one. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u1057052709

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-10 17:22:20

I love this pencil way more than I thought I would. I'm a big fan of the regular plastic Orenz and haven't really fallen hard for the metal grip (although I have them in the collection) but this thing is just awesome.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-10 17:25:00

*Thread Reply:* The all black black matte is pretty fire too

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-10 17:32:35

*Thread Reply:* Oh yea! That is a fine pencil. Other than the nero this is Pentel's best pencil in its lineup. It is easier to manage than the nero when the lead jams especially at 0.2mm.

😂 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-10 17:37:20

*Thread Reply:* Agreed

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-10 17:39:03

*Thread Reply:* I also really wish they would have run more with the P35 cuz I think those are great and could have hit the p200 and orenz space.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-10 23:01:56

*Thread Reply:* I would totally buy an P35 with an orenz mechanism. Then again I would pay double for a nero or orenz mechanism in a Kerry (P1035 or P1032) body.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 06:42:04

Alright which one of you has the deep pockets? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q1056563071

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 07:30:13

*Thread Reply:* I hae been outbid on this.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 08:39:34

*Thread Reply:* I stayed out of this one…

2022-07-11 12:24:55

*Thread Reply:* Too much red wine… and regret

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 12:28:41

*Thread Reply:* are you saying you won it?

2022-07-11 12:28:53

*Thread Reply:* Yeah

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 12:29:05

*Thread Reply:* dayummm

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 12:29:08

*Thread Reply:* woohoo

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 07:56:00

Here is a (hopefully) lower cost item that I am watching, and will probably bid on this coming Saturday, depending on the outcome of some other auctions. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/1057230292

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 08:35:38

*Thread Reply:* That one looks great. Much less beige than the other ones.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-11 11:07:27

*Thread Reply:* If you decide to not bid on this one, let me know.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 11:57:56

*Thread Reply:* I do plan to bid on this one, but I am going through ZenMarket this time, so I will use funds left over from bids that end on Saturday. I don't have any of the 101 pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 11:58:31

*Thread Reply:* Hopefully it will go for lower than the Double Knock I lost out on.🤣

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-11 12:35:02

*Thread Reply:* Good luck! Hopefully the high price on the double knock will result in a bunch more coming to market.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 19:03:07

*Thread Reply:* Good Call https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q1057370162

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 19:11:23

*Thread Reply:* Oh!!!! Are you gonna grab it?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-12 19:15:56

*Thread Reply:* It is blocked by zenmarket for some reason.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 19:16:31

*Thread Reply:* I have already put in a request to unblock it. Hopefully I will be able to get it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 19:16:51

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 19:25:30

*Thread Reply:* When they unblock it they’ll probably unblock it for everyone. You’re going to have to be quick on the draw

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 06:53:36

*Thread Reply:* @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) did you get it?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 07:10:18

*Thread Reply:* Yes I did.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 07:12:33

*Thread Reply:* Helllll yes!!!!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 07:13:04

*Thread Reply:* How did the request go? Did they let you know when they unblocked it?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 07:29:44

*Thread Reply:* Zenmarket would not unblock it. I ended up going through White Rabbit. I still have a couple of packages waiting arrival, so what's one more.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 07:40:38

*Thread Reply:* Nice. Glad White Rabbit was able to move fast enough.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 08:36:03

*Thread Reply:* They got to it about 9 AM their time, which is 1AM here, so only a couple of hours after I bid.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:49:18

*Thread Reply:* All of my shipments arrived at White Rabbit Express, so I consolidated my package (before I could buy anything else). They are closed Monday for a holiday, but hopefully they will get it packed by Wednesday. I would love to have it in my hands by August 5th, before I head down to Austin.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:50:32

*Thread Reply:* We're talking about the double knock, right?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:50:59

*Thread Reply:* Along with about 80 other pencils, yes.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:51:02

*Thread Reply:* So both you and Z will be getting them soon.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:51:07

*Thread Reply:* 80?!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:51:30

*Thread Reply:* There were several lots I purchased, where I wanted just a few items in it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:51:36

*Thread Reply:* A couple of lots.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:52:09

*Thread Reply:* But, yes, a bunch of pencils this time. Probably the most I have ever spent on a package.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:53:18

*Thread Reply:* I need to go shopping through your extra inventory

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:53:35

*Thread Reply:* Including 2 0.3mm Mechanicas

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 09:48:57

I want this....for a quarter of the price

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1003181513

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 09:50:05

*Thread Reply:* Yes. I wouldn't mind having a better example, without the faded label.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 17:08:00

I'm about to just freaking buy this. Tired of looking at it…

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m31824617418

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-11 17:41:42

*Thread Reply:* The "A" does stand for atxalais

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-11 17:49:11

*Thread Reply:* Too bad it had not moved in price for a while.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 17:51:29

*Thread Reply:* It's gone down a lil bit

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-11 18:08:41

Had this case out today. Figured you guys may like to see it.

❤️ Ƶ, Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11, Kiwi-d
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-11 22:44:34

*Thread Reply:* Nice! That is my type of case and my type of pencils!

2022-07-12 06:49:55

*Thread Reply:* Very nice!

2022-07-12 00:12:50

Howdy all. Just before I head over to eBay or FB or somewhere, I thought I'd post these pictures of 2 mixed lots of Pentels I'm selling. Front and side view of each lot, plus an extra shot of egronomix of lot 2. Going cheap if anyone wants to make any offers.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 07:55:47

I am going for this transparent grip S55 https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=l1057250985

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 07:58:34

*Thread Reply:* Such a cool piece. I bet it goes for $50+

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 07:59:52

*Thread Reply:* Hopefully for your sake Z isn't drinking red wine in 4 days when it closes.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 08:00:19

*Thread Reply:* Yeah

2022-07-12 08:58:28

*Thread Reply:* I won't be bidding on this...

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-17 15:34:27

*Thread Reply:* Did anyone here get this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-17 21:13:16

*Thread Reply:* I did. And I am bidding on the clear brown one as well. https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=h1057811722

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-17 21:28:44

*Thread Reply:* There's been some really solid Pentel pieces lately.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-17 21:29:23

*Thread Reply:* Unfortunately for my wallet.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 07:56:42

It's a beauty! Good luck :-)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 08:22:14

Does anyone have any P545 pencils with the any sticker or tag besides the small triangular sticker (like in photo)? In looking at my catalog of photos, this is the only sticker I see on any of them, which means that the latest they were produced was through about 1975. If you do have one, please let me know and send me a photo. Or, if you have one that has any Date Code, probably stamped on the lead reservoir.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 08:51:38

*Thread Reply:* Only that style of seal, no date codes - I checked. My blue SG45 is dated 78, silver SG33 is dated 77.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 08:57:22

*Thread Reply:* Nice. All 3 of your P545's match in size. Once I get my one I just purchased, I will have all the colors, but 2 long and 1 short.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-12 12:38:33

*Thread Reply:* Love the color accents on the P545 🤙:skintone6:

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-12 15:08:32

*Thread Reply:* All of mine have little stickers and no date codes. Mine also has a price in yen.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 15:23:19

*Thread Reply:* What price do yours have? I have found pictures of the short ones with ¥500 & ¥700 and long ones with ¥700. Not sure where I got this image from. It is from before I started keeping track of that info.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-12 15:26:47

*Thread Reply:* Actually, just got to looking at the one I just won. It is a long P545 at ¥500.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 10:04:33

I'd love to get these. I already have a set but I'm a sucker for packages.

Price is just a bit too much to swallow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394157805549?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4qs6v1dbtua&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/394157805549?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4qs6v1dbtua&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-13 10:38:36

*Thread Reply:* Pretty freakin awesome. I can't believe these still exist!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 14:50:25

*Thread Reply:* there's two listings on eBay for these same pencils which tells me it's somewhere out there on YJP or Mercari

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 14:56:22

*Thread Reply:* I believe that Yoshura27's Mercari username is yosshy43, but at the moment he does not have anything for sale.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:10:49

*Thread Reply:* I take that back, I looked it up wrong. He does have a lot for sale. https://jp.mercari.com/user/profile/780592630

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 10:08:38

Well, this includes a brown one I don't have.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:22:45

I need to uncrumple this

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:40:38

*Thread Reply:* That is really cool! Can you iron it on really low heat? Maybe just press it between two pieces of glass or plexiglass and scan it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:45:25

*Thread Reply:* Yeah that's what I plan on doing. I've done it in the past with an iron

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:50:36

*Thread Reply:* That looks like this that I have in the Ads... subdirectory of the Catalog directory.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:51:09

*Thread Reply:* Yup same

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:56:35

*Thread Reply:* On the last page at the bottom is the document number NO. EX-EGF77. I suspect that the 77 is the year. But whatever year, I am surprised that EuroPentel (France) is not listed. Looking at my Pentel timeline, this HAS to be 77 or later, since Pentel Papeteriewaren A.G. opened in 1977.

👍 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:59:40

*Thread Reply:* Canada opened in '76 and Hong Kong in 1977. I don't know exactly when Germany opened, the only note I have, is that it was 1982 or before.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:36:00

Just letting you all know that I am bidding on the following:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m1057440767 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c1057431654 The only pencil in the second lot that I am really interested in is the Mitsubishi double knock.

ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:43:51

*Thread Reply:* Both are great lots! (The first one, especially.)

I think #1 will be quite expensive due to the Pentels; #2 includes a nice Ohto Gripper Slide, a double knock Mitsubishi, an excellent Sakura Slide Sharp, and a very cool Colleen 🤙:skintone6:

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:52:33

*Thread Reply:* I was going to go after #1 for the P545 with sticker. But that was going to be on Saturday, after my 3 other auctions end on Friday and Saturday mornings. But I will skip this one. I do have that P545, just without the label.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-13 15:57:31

*Thread Reply:* I already have several of the pencils in the second lot but the Pentel and the Mitsubishi are the ones I am really interested in. The first lot will likely require another big deposit to Zen to get a high enough bid.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-13 21:55:27

*Thread Reply:* Good luck! That aqua S55 is da bomb!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-14 07:33:17

I am not going after these, but if anyone is interested in the P35 Hue, there are 3 up on Yahoo Japan right now. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1057528272 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p1057517246 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v1057527830

ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
ヤフオク!
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-14 07:47:55

*Thread Reply:* Was tempted but the sun damage is… there

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:38:06

Wow to these final prices

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/v1057037409

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/s1057064753

Buyee
Buyee
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:39:51

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, I did not really expect to win the Green Graph. I bid ¥12500, but I did not expect that price.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:40:44

*Thread Reply:* That looks about the price I have paid for my cases. Not this version, but the one with 3 trays.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:41:10

*Thread Reply:* Imagine shipping that to the US

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:42:11

*Thread Reply:* I have had one ship from the UK. The guy did not package it very well, and it snapped at some of the edges. I still need to glue it back together.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:42:44

*Thread Reply:* I had that happen with a lead display case. Very depressing opening that shipment.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:43:25

*Thread Reply:* The guy I purchased from refunded me half the purchase price.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-15 09:43:41

*Thread Reply:* Worth it. Not worth it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 10:47:42

Going after more Popeye pencils. https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=m1057746528

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 11:01:00

*Thread Reply:* That's a deep starting price. Hope it stays low.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 11:02:47

*Thread Reply:* I figure it will probably go between ¥10000 & ¥12000

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 15:36:53

Got these little boogers in today.

❤️ Ƶ
👍 Heath
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-16 18:28:16

*Thread Reply:* Those are nice! Are these the kind of packages held close with a restickable adhesive?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 18:34:09

*Thread Reply:* Yes

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 19:10:06

*Thread Reply:* I kept resisting the pink 501 coz of my built in prejudices… 😆

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 19:13:16

*Thread Reply:* It's red. 😉

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 19:14:36

*Thread Reply:* (mutters under his breath as he goes to dig up the ol Pantone chart.)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 19:15:11

*Thread Reply:* Sigh. The ole Pantone chart

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Knocktype11
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 19:15:27

*Thread Reply:* That was my world for like 15 years.

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 19:18:15

*Thread Reply:* I'm still in it but I'm more of a strategist now.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-16 20:44:24

*Thread Reply:* it totally looks pink to me also in this picture and the other one. Please pull out the Pantone chart and give us some numbers. Maybe for the green one also so we can calibrate correctly.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-16 20:48:23

*Thread Reply:* Is this the new calipers?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-16 20:49:50

*Thread Reply:* It could be if you make it so!

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 07:55:21

This S55 is going stratospheric 🚀

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h1057811722

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 08:07:30

*Thread Reply:* I'm letting Jimmy have this one.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 16:27:10

*Thread Reply:* I got outbid

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 16:35:39

*Thread Reply:* Dang who paid that much for it?? I can't say I'd pay $135 for that. $135 for the entire translucent set yes. Not for one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 16:43:43

*Thread Reply:* I guess I shouldn't have said that. I've paid big amounts for pieces.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 12:22:07

Does anyone have one of these PS513 with a Black Flying Dragon tag? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d1058018849

ヤフオク!
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-19 12:36:24

*Thread Reply:* Yes

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 12:39:14

*Thread Reply:* This is only the second one of these tags I have seen. I picked one up, and should hopefully have it in my hands next week. It is the only PS513 that I have seen with any tag/sticker.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-19 12:41:11

*Thread Reply:* Aren't the 0.5mm tags in blue? The 0.3mm ones seem to be be in black.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 12:41:51

*Thread Reply:* That is what it appears to be to me. I have not seen any 0.7 or 0.9 tags.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:13:20

If anyone has one of these I'd love to chat.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:15:07

*Thread Reply:* I think @Knocktype11 has one of these Pentel S-15 pencils.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:15:28

*Thread Reply:* I'm going to fly out there and make him an offer

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:17:02

*Thread Reply:* I have the Pilot in 0.5 and 0.7

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:17:28

*Thread Reply:* I posted a picture in reddit earlier this year.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:17:29

*Thread Reply:* The 0.7 was an absolute dog, but BarKeeper's Friend brought it back

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:17:50

*Thread Reply:* I guess I should have said “if anyone has a spare”

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:22:12

*Thread Reply:* One of these in mint and I'm fully satisfied.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:22:17

*Thread Reply:* Done collecting

😂 Heath
🤣 Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-19 17:28:33

*Thread Reply:* They are kinda great

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 09:59:53

Not sure if this box is correct for the model but if these “p225”ish pencils are indeed P585 then the Rush on Goals are not P585

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m71147478126

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:20:39

*Thread Reply:* I like this part of the description: "I slept in stock all the time."

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:22:30

*Thread Reply:* I wish that the box had a drawing of the pencil on it, like the PS705, so that we could at least verify the form factor of the pencil.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:23:10

*Thread Reply:* Yeah that would be total confirmation

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-21 11:46:04

*Thread Reply:* I think I have one of the generic Pentel boxes. They are pretty week evidence. I would bet that the special releases (ROG, CRW, the printed P225s, etc.) fit into that category and did not get "official" boxes with pictures and printed boxes.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 11:47:09

*Thread Reply:* yea I agree but what IS the P585 as seen on the box if it's not a special release?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 11:47:16

*Thread Reply:* I love the mystery of this

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 12:03:47

*Thread Reply:* I can't remember what my P225 box looks like on the front. I will check when I get home.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-21 12:05:41

*Thread Reply:* ROG seems the most likely The are approximately the right size. At a minimum it confirms that a P585 was actually produced. We have made an educated guess that is the model number of the ROGs.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 12:06:16

*Thread Reply:* The ST# may be the designation for Special Series. The Popeye pencils are actually P565ST2 on the tray, but I abbreviate it to P565. I will do the same with these P585ST1 to P585.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 20:39:51

*Thread Reply:* And these popped up on eBay as well https://www.ebay.com/itm/394172240280

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:23:15

*Thread Reply:* That is the 4th Popeye that has turned up in the past week.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:23:32

*Thread Reply:* And I got 0 of them

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:23:56

*Thread Reply:* I still find it weird how we go through phases of seeing things

👍 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:24:23

*Thread Reply:* I am not going after this one. Aside from the color, it is the first Popeye character I got - Popeye pleading to Olive Oyl.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:24:51

*Thread Reply:* That price is a bit hard to swallow

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:25:21

*Thread Reply:* I am bidding on these https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=m1057746528 https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=b1058121793

zenmarket.jp
zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:26:08

*Thread Reply:* I'll jump in on the next set that comes up.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:26:14

*Thread Reply:* That could be years from now

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 10:26:16

*Thread Reply:* Or next week

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:19:04

*Thread Reply:* The pencils don't exist until you channel them

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 20:24:57

*Thread Reply:* And it is now on eBay. Shunso_31 (eBay) must be the same user as Masaki2017 (Mercari). https://www.ebay.com/itm/394173343347

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 20:42:40

*Thread Reply:* If the Mercari listing opens to US I may buy it. I don't want to have to use White Rabbit

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 08:09:38

*Thread Reply:* I got it for $51 USD. Not great. Not terrible. Glad Jimmy wasn't bidding. 😂

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 09:07:04

*Thread Reply:* I wonder what would happen if someone tried buying it from the eBay listing now that it's actually been sold on Mercari?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 11:34:46

*Thread Reply:* Where did you bid from?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 11:35:01

*Thread Reply:* What proxy service?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 12:00:43

*Thread Reply:* Buyee

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:54:16

I've avoided this piece for a long time due to it's rubber grip but I gotta say it's not bad at all. The mechanism is awesome and very satisfying.

🙌 Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:55:30

Gasp 😮 !!! sideKnocks getting a pencil with a rubber grip?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:55:45

I do feel a little funny

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:55:51

But I also have the j-grip

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:55:57

I believe those are my only

2022-07-21 14:56:02

Imposter!

😂 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:56:48

I was bidding on a set of two of these on eBay. I put the minimum bid and was outbid today. I my bump it up. I just want it to get an example of it for the double knock aspect.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 16:06:33

*Thread Reply:* Did somone here outbid me on this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/195224586190

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 18:23:02

*Thread Reply:* Not I

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 18:37:22

*Thread Reply:* This is the auction I won…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 21:26:18

*Thread Reply:* What are you going to do with the second pencil?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 21:29:30

*Thread Reply:* It'll go into the unwanted duplicates portion of the collection to which one day it'll end up on eBay.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 21:29:35

*Thread Reply:* Or it'll go to a friend

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 21:30:26

*Thread Reply:* I have some pencils to trade with you.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 21:40:52

*Thread Reply:* Done. It's yours.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:57:12

Yeah that's why I did it. The double knock is very satisfying

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:57:21

As you guys should know from my incessant gaslighting, double knocks are the pinnacle of mechanical pencil design

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:57:31

Therefore, any self-respecting collector should have a Technica-X

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:57:32

That and 0.9mm

😉 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:57:59

0.9 is an unholy abomination that should only be reserved for kindergartners, but go off 😁

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 14:58:05

Hahha

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:01:26

There is also a PW55 Technica EX on Yahoo Auctions that I will probably try for (after some of my Saturday auctions close), again for the double knock, and to see what is different between them. https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=s1057799968

zenmarket.jp
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:07:53

the only thing I can tell is that maybe the nose and the pocket clip are matte on the PW55

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:09:11

That could be it. @Pearsonified do you have both of these?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:09:48

I only have the red with Technica spelled out, I think (can't get to my toolbox right now)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:11:58

These would have been really great pieces had they offered a version without the rubber grip. Kinda like how the P35 comes with and without a rubber grip. The nonrubber grip is the P35 Hue and the rubber grip version is called the Pixy or Cushi

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:15:58

The double knock mechanism is very good; I would have loved to have seen it with different cone styles (specifically ones evocative of Colleen Jib's fantastic double knocks, which feature similarly fat tip + lead sleeve combinations)

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:16:11

But Pentel kinda seems to hate double knocks

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:16:22

Which is another reason why Pilot is the absolute GOAT

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:17:16

With that said, I must have that unknown Pentel 5 double knock at some point, or my entire collection is a joke

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:17:38

I should be receiving mine next week.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:17:52

And do I even have a PSD5? And if I do, how am I not certain? lol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:17:52

Unknown Model 05

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:18:06

How much did you pay, and from where?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:18:11

I have the PSD5 I got a few months ago.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:18:27

I remember when you got yours

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:18:31

I think it was just before our lunch

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:19:21

After I got out bid by @Ƶ, someone listed one a day later with a fixed price on Yahoo Auctions.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:21:57

*Thread Reply:* honestly not a bad price considering the current exchange rate

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:22:32

*Thread Reply:* Looks like you got a fantastic specimen, and I am in love with that etched "W" on the back

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:22:53

*Thread Reply:* Also interesting: The tip style is similar to the SECOND GENERATION tip style used by Pilot on the H-1005 and H-1003

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:23:01

*Thread Reply:* White Rabbit has some high fees, but it still came in at less than $1 = ¥100

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:23:21

*Thread Reply:* The average fees for my entire order was just over 28%.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:20:27

I was waiting for my final 2 pencils to arrive at White Rabbit Express, but ZenMarket would not allow bidding on it, so I added to my WRE order. That closed out on Monday, and they shipped it this morning.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:23:33

*Thread Reply:* Can you ship it to me first? I just wanna spend some time with it then you can have it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:23:36

*Thread Reply:* 😂

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:24:33

*Thread Reply:* I may have it enclosed in Lucite so that you can look at it when I am in Austin the first of August.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:25:47

*Thread Reply:* hah

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:21:03

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q1057370162

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:36:35

👀 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m1057824848

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:37:39

*Thread Reply:* I think I have the bid on that.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:38:04

*Thread Reply:* I am bidding on it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:38:13

*Thread Reply:* just logged in. Not me

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:38:38

*Thread Reply:* Right now, I am the only bidder.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:41:20

*Thread Reply:* I just had it "starred". I hadn't bid

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:41:23

🤔 https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1057785299

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:41:48

*Thread Reply:* YOU are thinking about a PEN?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:42:19

*Thread Reply:* This is one I planned on bidding on after my Saturday morning auctions closed.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:42:35

*Thread Reply:* But, if you want to go for it, go ahead, just let me know.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:42:48

*Thread Reply:* I just got my first Rolly

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:42:53

*Thread Reply:*

🔥 Pearsonified
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:43:01

*Thread Reply:* oh, this is a pen? I have this and wasn't sure if anyone else did

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:43:19

*Thread Reply:* Black and red, let's go!!!!

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:43:51

*Thread Reply:* Can you scan that paperwork and send it to me, to go up on the Catalog pages?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:44:16

*Thread Reply:* it hasn't come in yet but I will

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:52:23

*Thread Reply:* Instructions - Technica II (PD1065).pdf has now been added to the public Pentel Catalogs/Ads, Instructions and Pamphets directory

🕺 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-21 16:05:42

*Thread Reply:* insanely cool

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-21 15:47:21

^ for @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-22 17:53:54

The one of the left is a S-19. What is the one on the right?

❤️ Knocktype11
:large_green_square: Knocktype11
Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-22 18:08:27

*Thread Reply:* S15

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-22 18:08:56

*Thread Reply:* All the S15’s are smaller in size to the S19?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-22 18:10:57

*Thread Reply:* Yes they are a bit shorter. The cap on the S15 is unusual. Are you sure that it is original?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-22 18:11:12

*Thread Reply:* Nope I'm not sure of anything these days

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 15:13:28

This is sexy

🔥 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 22:22:10

I posted a question Reddit, asking if someone had ever seen a P155 Injecto, not ever expecting a reply. https://old.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/w2xjs7/has_anyone_ever_seen_a_pentel_p155_05mm_injecto/

Lo, and behold, someone posted pictures of one. https://imgur.com/a/P8yknj9

reddit
Imgur
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-23 22:24:15

Strangely, that picture would be MORE credible if it was shot on a bedsheet or crappy work table.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 12:09:21

Which one of you bought this?

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m78800158984

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 19:30:20

*Thread Reply:* I actually took the Renoma off my watch list. Where I live, Renoma is a 3rd tier fashion label…

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 19:40:18

*Thread Reply:* That's good to know

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 19:25:50

Why such a low price?? 😂

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275399552981?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FcnEugscTou&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/275399552981?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FcnEugscTou&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-07-24 19:43:37

Yeah, I saw it the other day, It says used, well in the photos it looks great, the eraser looks good.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 21:50:20

Not sure if people have seen this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/155089638363

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-24 22:23:19

I just bid on this. It should complete my set of Q535 Pop'npops https://zenmarket.jp/auction.aspx?itemCode=k1058553771

zenmarket.jp
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 07:34:13

Minnie Mouse DP325 pencil on Yahoo Auction https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w1058595191

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 07:46:19

*Thread Reply:* I still think the Disney and Popeye pencils like this are some of the coolest.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 07:47:13

*Thread Reply:* I have this one, so I am not going to bid on it, if anyone here wants to.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 07:48:07

*Thread Reply:* How about I buy this one and trade it for yours that's in better condition 😉

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 08:05:40

*Thread Reply:* It looks like the clip is the only thing that is bad, and that is the standard P200 clip. I have a tray of those. I will give you one.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 10:57:42

*Thread Reply:* Never mind. I missed the cracks at the cap end.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 09:54:04

🤔 this is a color I don't have…

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h1058625491

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 14:36:34

*Thread Reply:* Did you bid on this?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 14:38:14

*Thread Reply:* I did. I don't know how high I'm willing to go on it but I wanted to get a bid in so the listing doesn't disappear. I've had that happen too many times.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:38:34

*Thread Reply:* Looks like you are the only current bidder on this.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:39:38

*Thread Reply:* That's my max bid.

You are more than welcome to outbid me if you'd like.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:42:25

*Thread Reply:* If that is your max bid, I will leave it alone, but if I see you are outbid Sunday morning, then I will go after it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:42:43

*Thread Reply:* Totally reasonable

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-31 15:47:30

*Thread Reply:* Well, no one outbid you, so you got it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 09:54:40

That is the only one I am missing as well. I have the other 4 colors.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 14:36:15

AAAAARGH!!! Another Grail piece to find. The Pentel P1004. https://old.reddit.com/r/mechanicalpencils/comments/w7w6xa/a_very_rare_pentel_injecto_p1004_04mm_mechanical/

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sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 14:37:02

*Thread Reply:* What the living hell

2022-07-25 14:37:16

*Thread Reply:* Kill me

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 14:37:21

*Thread Reply:* I know...

2022-07-25 14:49:15

*Thread Reply:* Time to update the book again!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 14:49:34

*Thread Reply:* I would wait. Something seems odd.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 15:02:08

*Thread Reply:* As soon as I get my package this week, I will be taking a bunch of photos and will then be updating the catalog. I have 5-6 new Pentel items and 6 Custom (Disney, etc.) items. Plus a bunch of new photos of pencils already in the book.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 15:21:34

*Thread Reply:* Guess we need a sterling silver kerry too now

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 15:53:32

*Thread Reply:* 👍🤩👍

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-31 11:32:59

*Thread Reply:* Freakin AWESOME

2022-07-25 17:43:54

Have you guys seen this??

I was looking at Cuirassier’s blog for the millionth time and just found this interesting bit about an unreleased Pentel 0.1mm that he mentioned was posted on the Pentel Mechanical Research Department community run by Pentel… hmmm??? https://blog.naver.com/enne313/222066536904

Digging some more and I find a news link on Pentel Japan referencing this official Mechanical Pencil Research Department: https://www.pentel.co.jp/news/11739/

https://note.com/pentel_sharppen/all

note(ノート)
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-07-25 17:46:34

*Thread Reply:* Yeah, Reddit has talked about Pentel's 0.1 several times.

2022-07-25 17:49:46

*Thread Reply:* Never knew about the 0.1mm. I was definitely more excited about the articles on their research department.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-25 23:19:12

*Thread Reply:* I don't want a 0.1mm pencil.

0.2mm is maybe the practical limit of the size of lead. I think the article they mentioned that at 0.1mm there was an issue with the lead sticking to the side of the lead reservoir. I have this problem with 0.2mm already.

With my eyes getting that single stick of lead out of the tube and into the reservoir is getting harder every year. Forget about doing this on an airplane.

2022-07-26 06:25:46

*Thread Reply:* lol, right?

2022-07-26 06:29:39

*Thread Reply:* And yeah sticking to the side is an issue with 0.2.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 17:44:40

Yeah I've followed that since they launched the group.

2022-07-25 17:45:12

I have a bit of reading to do.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 17:45:25

I love the piece that they talk about the design for the p35

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-25 17:47:12

This is my favorite article on there by far… I'm nuts about the p35 and mannish Orenz

https://note.com/pentel_sharppen/n/nadd4940a802f

note(ノート)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-26 17:58:45

Have we confirmed an SV7 existed?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-26 20:06:47

We have confirmed a model that could possibly go by SV7/SG37. It is an SG33/SG35 form factor with a 7, instead of the 3 or 5. I have it in my hand as I hit send on this.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Ƶ
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-26 20:20:29

You do???

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-26 20:28:06

Yes. I got it in an Excalibur set with a very early Excalibur pen that was stamped with the Crown over Pentel, just like the Unknown Model 11. https://www.ebay.com/itm/394122305627

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-26 20:36:55

*Thread Reply:* Ahh yes I remember that conversation

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-26 20:40:31

I already have these (unpackaged) but it's really cool seeing them packaged. Would make a great addition to my packaged/carded items

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s1058772790

ヤフオク!
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-07-26 21:33:54

*Thread Reply:* These are the old ones, metal cone?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:33:10

A few of the pencils from my latest shipment from Japan.

😀 First-Sail
❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:48:29

*Thread Reply:* Top to bottom (right to left in photo) Early Scepter Silver Plated - has the original tip, which is quite different from the later tip (which looks to be the same as a P205 2mm). Mechanica (Mid version) Mechanica (Early version) W Knock (Unknown Model 05) Early version of the PMG. Built in similar fashion to the Graph II

I did not get the box for either of the Mechanica's, but I did get the sleeve for the Mid version.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:57:36

*Thread Reply:* Weaux

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:57:42

*Thread Reply:* How's the double knock?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:58:17

*Thread Reply:* Interesting. I plan to use it here at work today, instead of my usual Scepter.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:59:11

*Thread Reply:* Getting used to how to operate it. It is going to take a while to figure out how the internals work.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:59:43

*Thread Reply:* I'm driving to Dallas right now to see it. 😉

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 07:59:46

*Thread Reply:* When I get around to taking pictures, I will take a picture of it broken down.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 08:00:23

*Thread Reply:* I will bring it to Austin in a week and a half.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 08:02:00

*Thread Reply:* Unknown model 05 coming to Austin! We're gonna give you the key to the city.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 08:02:56

*Thread Reply:* @Pearsonified Think of it as an incentive to have another meetup on 8/6.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-27 14:41:54

*Thread Reply:* Is the Scepter the same as the silver 20 u we talked about a while ago?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 14:45:46

*Thread Reply:* No. There is a Silver Plated (20µ), a Gold Plated (10µ) and a Sterling Silver Scepter, plus the pre-Scepter Unknown Model 11. It is a much more substantial pencil than the 20µ, which I have been calling the BK1040 (since it matches the PS1042 & PS1045).

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 14:47:03

*Thread Reply:* I picked this one up, because it is an early version of the Silver, and had the Scepter instruction sheet. The other Scepter Silver Plated ones I have are newer Gen 2 versions.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 09:07:01

*Thread Reply:* Here is the breakdown of the W-Knock. It is very complicated, and I cannot quite figure out how it works. I have a suspicion, but at one point had the pencil extended too far, and had to move a couple of floating pieces from behind the spring (3-finger spring, just in front of the big Brass piece), thus the scratches on the brass ring in front of the silver ring.

Reassembly goes as follows, eraser cap on, then the extendable tip screws onto the clutch. The spring then goes into the black grip, then that slides on and screws into the big Brass piece. Then the outer tip screws on, then the body screws onto the big brass piece.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 09:36:33

*Thread Reply:* Wow what an apparatus! Thanks for sharing!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 09:36:47

*Thread Reply:* So glad you have this

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-28 10:45:00

*Thread Reply:* This is an extremely complicated mechanism. Only the extreme ends of this pencil look like vintage Pentel to me.

Thanks sharing!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-07-31 11:30:41

*Thread Reply:* You got the Holy Grail!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 14:10:48

This has @Heath’s name all over it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374191829244?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Sw1L9i2nQCi&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/374191829244?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Sw1L9i2nQCi&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
2022-07-27 14:12:03

*Thread Reply:* This a listing from mercari. Price increase is substantial on eBay.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 14:12:36

*Thread Reply:* We know.

He doesn't like underpaying

2022-07-27 14:12:45

*Thread Reply:* Oh I'm sorry lol

2022-07-27 14:19:47

*Thread Reply:* I just know what I want and depending on how emotional I feel about it, am willing to spend for it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 14:23:13

*Thread Reply:* 😉 just messing with ya.

👊 Heath
2022-07-27 14:24:27

*Thread Reply:* I have seen that on Mercari in the past, but is it still there?

2022-07-27 14:26:03

*Thread Reply:* I do seem to be on a quest for all automatics…

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-27 15:44:33

*Thread Reply:* https://jp.mercari.com/item/m43960143749

👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 07:26:20

If anyone is looking for the ML5 version of the Hi Black... https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1058921555

ヤフオク!
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 12:24:53

Looking from a distance, there is not a whole lot of difference to see. Close up, you will notice that the original clip as the old-style typed PENTEL running down it, and the later one has the new logo and Japan on it. You can see the a difference in the tips on the first picture, and even better in the second close-up picture. The original tip is a straight cone tip with a small step at the very tip. The later tip looks just like the original P205 2mm tip, but actually has a shallower cavity on the inside. A P205 tip will go on the Scepter just fine, but the Scepter tip will not screw onto the P205 all the way. Another interesting difference is the ferrule on the eraser. I have noticed this in some pictures of other Scepter pencils, but this is the first early generation Scepter I own. There does not appear to be any difference in the internal lead reservoir, as when I set them down side-by-side, I wasn't sure which one went back into which body, until I pulled the eraser cap and checked the ferrule.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-28 14:10:00

*Thread Reply:* It looks like the tips are different. The lead sleeve on the left tip is different. It looks conical rather than straight like the one on the right. Is this correct?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 14:10:33

*Thread Reply:* Yes, exactly.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-28 14:10:50

*Thread Reply:* And it is slightly shorter than the regular 2mm tip.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:58:49

*Thread Reply:* That is very weird. I looked at all of my oldest Pentels and I don't have any with this type of lead sleeve. Do you have any others like this?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:02:06

*Thread Reply:* The ONLY pencils I have seen these on, are the Scepters. Here are some pics I grabbed from other auctions. A Gold plated, Silver plated and Sterling Silver.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:02:55

*Thread Reply:* Looking at it, the Silver plated is the auction that I won. I believe it is the first Silver plated one I have seen with this.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:04:08

*Thread Reply:* And here is the only other pic I have seen of that Ferrule on the eraser.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:37:41

*Thread Reply:* I don't know what to think about the Ferrule. Is it original? Were eraser refills sold with that ferrule? Is it the same size as the Z2-xx erasers?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:58:58

*Thread Reply:* This and mine are the only place I have seen this Ferrule. Between the early tip and the ferrule, I think the Scepters were meant to be high end pencils, so I can understand the custom pieces for it. These started at ¥3000 for the Silver Plate, ¥5000 for the Gold Plate and ¥7000 for the Sterling Silver, and that was back in 1970-71

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:09:32

A couple of gems.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:23:12

*Thread Reply:* These yours?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 14:36:57

*Thread Reply:* Yes

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:02:02

*Thread Reply:* Those are extremely nice. Did they arrive recently from a secret source?

I am missing the white grip ML5. If anyone has one with the old logo and wants to trade. Let me know.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:04:40

*Thread Reply:* I believe that is the only ML5 color I am missing as well.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-07-29 15:33:16

*Thread Reply:* the ML5 was from Mercari and the S-15 was from a reddit user

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-07-31 15:48:07

*Thread Reply:* No, SingaporeMechanicalPencils is the only place I have seen this.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 14:39:52

What do you want to bet that this won't go between 5 & 10 times the starting bid? https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h1059322348

ヤフオク!
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 14:41:10

*Thread Reply:* Won't be this price ….

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m91115062684

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 14:41:31

*Thread Reply:* I was just about to post that one.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 17:31:16

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) can we see the box the Sharp 11 kit came in?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:15:22
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:16:19

*Thread Reply:* Oh damn

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:16:24

*Thread Reply:* I need one of these

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:16:28

*Thread Reply:* Nice find !

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:16:46

*Thread Reply:* I need the Graph for Film set.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:18:38

*Thread Reply:* This! I need This! https://jp.mercari.com/item/m50446224330

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:28:33

*Thread Reply:* Oh smokes. Need.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:28:36

*Thread Reply:* You get one

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:28:49

*Thread Reply:* Then I'm free to have one. 😊

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-01 19:29:27

*Thread Reply:* No, I missed out on one on Yahoo Auctions. It went for over ¥30000 if I remember correctly.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-02 17:39:33

This was a nice note.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand), Pearsonified, Heath
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-03 10:15:29

*Thread Reply:* I got a love letter from this guy, too. Dig it!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-03 13:59:41

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-03 16:10:25

*Thread Reply:* Added to the shared directory

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-03 16:11:09

*Thread Reply:* Did you get this with the letter above?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-03 16:11:50

*Thread Reply:* Yessum

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-03 16:07:01

I have added the following items to the Shared Pentel Catalog directory:

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-03 16:08:10

*Thread Reply:* Pentel do Brasil Catálogo 2022-2023.pdf Pentel of Switzerland - 2022 Pentel Katalog.pdf And in the Ads, Instructions and Pamphlets directory: Instructions - Technica II (PD1065).pdf Ad - Excalibur EX17 (09-1978).pdf Instructions - Excalibur v2.pdf Instructions - Excalibur v3.pdf Instructions - Scepter.pdf Instructions - Rolly.pdf as well as renaming the first Excalibur instructions by adding the v1

👍 Heath
First-Sail ([email protected])
2022-08-03 16:09:31

*Thread Reply:* Ok thanks

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 07:42:18

Looks like someone put up the Unknown Model 11 along with the matching pen set. I am definitely bidding on this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/385041023903

eBay
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 07:54:22

I had the first bid at $50

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 07:54:28

dont you already have these?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 08:01:47

No. I have the pen, but the only place I have ever seen the pencil is on the Pencils11 blog.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 08:04:53

Ok I'll step aside

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 09:42:03

I got this pen in the set with the (non-Excalibur) SG37/SV7, but I have been looking for this Excalibur (proto-Scepter), since I saw it on the blog.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 09:56:17

It's all yours

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 10:21:34

*Thread Reply:* I hope so 😁

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 09:56:32

Next one is mine. Unless Z wins the lottery again. 😆

😂 Ƶ
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:36:27

New version of _Pentel Pencils Identification Book v2022.11.pdf is now out in the Shared Catalog directory. I will wait to make reviews and then publish it to my website next week. Also, here is a list of some of the changes I made to the book (I tried to capture the changes, but may have missed some). If you see any issues with the book, please let me know.

❤️ Kelvin Pang (drifand)
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:40:29

*Thread Reply:* Awesome!! What information was added about PQ11?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:43:02

*Thread Reply:* I think I put the wrong model number, because comparing v.10 to v.11, there is no difference other than the removal of the N/A Know Catalog line.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:43:29

*Thread Reply:* While we're there… PQ11 also came in green

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:43:42

*Thread Reply:* That text file was all manual, so easy to make a mistake, and/or miss something.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:44:04

*Thread Reply:* No worries

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:46:07

*Thread Reply:* There's a white with green stripes PC215 Rolly. Trying to get my hands on it.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:54:00

*Thread Reply:* Can you add a tag to all pencils with rubber grips so that I can easily remove those from my copy of the book? 😂

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 15:54:09

*Thread Reply:* Great updates btw!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-04 20:08:32

Not a bad price if you don't have this one yet

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m46182859057

2022-08-05 07:59:38

Two holy grails

😲 Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 08:40:38

*Thread Reply:* The PXN205 & PXN105

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 08:41:01

*Thread Reply:* Is this online, or did you take this picture somewhere?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 09:15:40

*Thread Reply:* where is this??

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 09:16:11

*Thread Reply:* you know you're a junkie when posts like this with no details makes you twitch 😂

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 09:16:20

*Thread Reply:* Z's famous move

😂 Ƶ
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-05 10:59:27

*Thread Reply:* So cool!

2022-08-05 18:03:13

*Thread Reply:* Somebody posted this on twitter.

2022-08-05 18:03:38

*Thread Reply:* Not sure where this located. Let me find out.

2022-08-05 18:08:33

*Thread Reply:* It is located in a stationery museum in Japan.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 18:10:10

*Thread Reply:* Let's go there.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 18:10:14

*Thread Reply:* Tomorrow.

2022-08-05 18:10:48

*Thread Reply:* I've already got my tickets. What's your seat number?

2022-08-05 18:11:44

*Thread Reply:* But seriously would be down for a group trip to Japan… think of all the rarities we could acquire for less than half the price we usually pay

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 18:15:33

*Thread Reply:* I'd have to remove my face tattoos.

🤪 Heath
sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 18:15:37

*Thread Reply:* They don't like that there.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-05 15:00:53

I have two of the 50th anni Kerrys. One is green and the other is brown. The green one has a slightly translucent body and the brown is opaque. The gold accents on both of these are different as well. With this is it safe to assume that the green and blue models have translucent bodies and the silver and brown ones do not?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-08 14:34:11

Excited about getting these two. One is the Rolly and the other is the Clicsharp.

👍 Pearsonified, Kelvin Pang (drifand)
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-08 14:47:19

*Thread Reply:* Hell yes. Cool colors on both, too. I prefer the styling of the ROLLY clip 🤙:skintone6:

Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 09:27:40

*Thread Reply:* I've always thought of the Rolly as the 'civilian model’ of the Graphgear 1000 :D

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 09:28:16

*Thread Reply:* I wasn't really into these models until I got my hands on one.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-09 10:34:05

*Thread Reply:* The ROLLY is pretty cool—as far as I know, it's one of the only classical double knocks to use a Schmidt-shaped tip.

While you'll find this tip on most all Sharbo-style multi-pens, the only true double-knocks that have it are the Pilot Grandee Priere, Pilot Protex, and the ROLLY.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:10:51

*Thread Reply:* I do prefer this style (PC215/PC265) to any of the others besides the PC25.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:11:01

*Thread Reply:* When are they arriving?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:15:02

*Thread Reply:* Will take a week to get here from Brazil

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:02:06

Stumbled into a "gold" p1085

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:02:49

*Thread Reply:* Pics or it doesn't exist.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:02:54

*Thread Reply:* I thought it was gold at first

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:02:55

*Thread Reply:* lol

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:03:46

*Thread Reply:* Ahh, bad lighting.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:04:20

*Thread Reply:* I saw a S19 earlier today that looked like it had an Orange extender

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:04:40

*Thread Reply:* I hate when that happens

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:04:43

*Thread Reply:* makes my heart race

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-09 16:05:50

*Thread Reply:* The thumbnail image enhanced the colors https://jp.mercari.com/item/m74635552138

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:24:38

*Thread Reply:* does it have old and new logo?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:26:02

*Thread Reply:* Yes. If you look at the third picture, you can see the new logo below the crown, and the old logo on the clip. Also, if you compare the Crown between the pen and pencil, you can see that the pencil crown is much cleaner.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:26:22

*Thread Reply:* shit

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:26:30

*Thread Reply:* Or, it is a slightly different design.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:26:32

*Thread Reply:* do I have anything that has old logo on clip and new logo on barrel?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:27:56

*Thread Reply:* ^ that was me talking to myself

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:28:32

*Thread Reply:* I believe I have a couple of items that have both style logos. I am trying to remember while I am at work.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:30:50

*Thread Reply:* looks like I may have some ML5s like that. I'll have to look when I get a chance

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:31:29

*Thread Reply:* That is what I was thinking, either the ML5 or the S55.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:33:31

*Thread Reply:* I have a few of those with mixed logos. Clearly the clips were manufactured before the logo was changed and they used the remaining stock.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:33:55

*Thread Reply:* As per usual for Pentel.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:39:33

*Thread Reply:* The mixed logo pencils I have are ML5 or P505. The S5x pencils did not have the logos on the clip.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:42:47

*Thread Reply:* Looking at the crowns, I think it is not just a matter of being cleaner, the pencil is made of single lines where the pen has outlines....

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:43:31

*Thread Reply:* That was what I meant by the slightly different design.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 12:44:19

*Thread Reply:* But in either case, it is different from later Excaliburs in that later ones are printed, and say "Excalibur" instead of "Pentel".

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-12 08:14:05

*Thread Reply:* I now have 4 examples of the stamped in Excalibur Crown. Only the Unknown Model 11 has the line version. The two "R10" pens have the outlined version, and so does the Unknown Model 09 (unfortunately, not mine, but from another collector).

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-12 08:16:16

*Thread Reply:* The outline version matches up closely with the printed version on later Excaliburs, so I suspect that the stamped line version was the original, then the stamped outline version, then the printed version as the final version.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-12 16:41:24

*Thread Reply:* The "Pentel" part with the outline has a much tighter kerning. I kind of prefer the older version. It looks better to my eye.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-12 16:48:40

*Thread Reply:* Stop being kerny, Paul.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-12 23:04:12

*Thread Reply:* In a related posting, here are the three R10 Excalibur pens that I own. Although they look very similar at first glance, the left and middle pens have differences. The one on the left has an unusual lip where the cap posts (pic 3), which makes it not completely post (pic 1). Pencil changed this in the one in the middle. Also if you look at pic 2, the Japan on the cap is different between them with the one on the left being in a smaller serif font and the middle being a larger sans serif font.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 16:34:11

Pretty happy with the condition of this piece. Seems to be untouched.

❤️ Knocktype11, Kelvin Pang (drifand), Pearsonified
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 17:26:26

*Thread Reply:* Was there a part number on the box?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:02:59

*Thread Reply:* No numbers on the box. Very generic pentel case/box.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:28:31

*Thread Reply:* This looks like one of the short versions.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:13:04

Noticed something interesting today. The S19 came in two lengths. One is 136.8mm and the other is 125.2mm long. I noticed that the S15 is shorter before.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:30:58

*Thread Reply:* So an S19 the size of an S15?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:39:38

*Thread Reply:* While you have your S15s out can you look at the bend of the pocket clip to see if they are all the same or vary like this…

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:39:39

*Thread Reply:* Some S19s are the same size as the S15.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:39:44

*Thread Reply:*

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:40:24

*Thread Reply:* I wonder if they have a longer S15

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:44:56

*Thread Reply:* The S15 does not have the same bend. All of the S19s have a 9 on the flat part though.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:46:21

*Thread Reply:* I also wonder if there is S17 out there.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:53:15

*Thread Reply:* In my photo those are both s15

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-11 18:55:26

*Thread Reply:* Oh. Is there anything on the flat part of the clip?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-11 19:11:10

*Thread Reply:* Nope

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-12 08:10:55

*Thread Reply:* Funny, all of my S19s are the 136.5 to 136.8 variety.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-13 21:32:01

*Thread Reply:* I was just looking at the clips on my S19 pencils. The older clips with the vertical type Pentel have the 9 vertical. The newer font Pentel have the 9 sideways in the same orientation as the logo.

👍 Knocktype11
❤️ Knocktype11
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 20:53:04

*Thread Reply:* Is the difference in size all in the body?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-19 21:47:42

*Thread Reply:* The tips and the clips are the same. The body and the reservoirs are different lengths.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:25:15

*Thread Reply:* Could you take a photo of one of the longer S19's with the two shorter ones, for the Pentel book?

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:27:58

*Thread Reply:* Sure. I'll take my tags off too this time.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-13 09:52:31

They're coming out like zombies …

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/1060495272

ヤフオク!
Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-13 13:39:58

Price is so brutal, but DAMN I want that pencil

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-16 20:34:04

*Thread Reply:* I see that there is now a bid on it. Is that yours?

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-19 09:54:27

*Thread Reply:* No, I'm not doing any bidding for now

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-14 09:18:01

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) and @Ƶ. After you both having the W knock in hand what would you be willing to pay for it today?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-14 16:53:15

This just went for $94 USD. Dang

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363936503150?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SVMi8kMlRQO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY|https://www.ebay.com/itm/363936503150?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SVMi8kMlRQO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=dvLm92jQRRi&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-15 07:27:25

Here is an odd one that I expect will skyrocket in price. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s1060648012

ヤフオク!
Kelvin Pang (drifand) ([email protected])
2022-08-15 07:28:49

*Thread Reply:* Seller is not from Japan… so beware shipping to Japan + to you.

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-16 17:17:04

@Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) Not sure if you have this

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-16 17:22:07

*Thread Reply:* Is this for the PS1045?

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-16 17:23:47

*Thread Reply:* PS65

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:28:37

*Thread Reply:* It is now in the catalog directory.

👍 sideKnocks (atxalais)
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:28:54

*Thread Reply:* as Instructions - PS Slim.pdf

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 21:31:55

Not seen this pencil before, and actually, the first 1.1 Pentel I have seen: Pentel 111D https://jp.mercari.com/item/m37499553299

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 21:41:40

*Thread Reply:* Oh my what a find!

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-19 21:59:30

*Thread Reply:* This one is very weird. Usually D is Blue. The eleven had a 1.1mm model a well. I've never seen one though.

I can't save the pictures on mercari to look at them closely.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:08:34

*Thread Reply:* Use this link for Mercari images (https://static.mercdn.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m37499553299_1.jpg?1660958803)

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:10:24

*Thread Reply:* Change the # just before the .jpg? to the image number, in this case 1-9. To look at other Mercari images, you can change the m37499553299 to whatever the Mercari item number is.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:11:31

*Thread Reply:* Thanks!

D is for duh. Usually D is Green in the Pentel color codes.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:14:40

*Thread Reply:* Yes, I was wondering about the D color code for this pencil, which from all of the pictures looks Blue.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:18:50

*Thread Reply:* Are you buying this? I would, but I don't have a way to deal with the Japan-only sales.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:22:53

*Thread Reply:* No, I'm not going after it. I am waiting for my last item to arrive at ZenMarket, to close my package and ship it to me.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:23:47

*Thread Reply:* I have not seen much on Mercari lately that makes me go, "I GOTTA HAVE THAT", or at least not at a (semi-)reasonable price.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:24:11

*Thread Reply:* Of course now that I say that, something WILL turn up.

Knocktype11 ([email protected])
2022-08-19 22:27:18

*Thread Reply:* Of course something always shows up. I've had things show up in Osaka the next day after I shipped a parcel the last couple of times I bought things on Zen.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 09:43:03

*Thread Reply:* This one does less than nothing for me, but I appreciate the unobtanium factor!

sideKnocks (atxalais) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 09:43:36

*Thread Reply:* I said the same thing about my prom date

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 10:51:17

Likely the best PSD5 specimen you will find: https://www.ebay.com/itm/314114987215?hash=item4922b654cf:g:y-QAAOSw0FNjARaE

eBay
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 10:54:29

*Thread Reply:* I am quite happy with my PSD5, but if I could a PWP15 at that price, I would be ecstatic. Most of them I have seen at ¥40000+

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 11:11:05

*Thread Reply:* Is the PWP15 actually marked differently?

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 11:20:31

*Thread Reply:* Yes. As far as I know, the only difference is the lead indicator ring (which is why I would like to get my hands on a PWP15 to verify).

Above the window on the indicator ring, the PSD5 says Pentel (in the logo script), to the right, it says 0.5, and to the left it says PSD5 above Japan. I do not remember it saying anything on the back.

For the PWP15, above the window it says 0.5, on the right it says Pentel and on the back it says PWP15 above Japan, with nothing on the left of the window.

👍 Pearsonified
2022-08-22 11:49:26

*Thread Reply:* @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd), do you have any pictures of the PSD5 internals? I’m wondering if it’s similar at all to the W-Knock.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 11:50:13

*Thread Reply:* Did you snag a Pentel W-knock, @Heath?

2022-08-22 11:50:55

*Thread Reply:* No but I’m on the lookout after seeing @Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) breakdown of it.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 11:51:13

*Thread Reply:* I don't have that available at the moment. And it may take me a while to get to it, as we are packing our house into the garage, because next week we are getting all new floors in our house.

2022-08-22 11:51:52

*Thread Reply:* No worries.

2022-08-22 12:09:06

*Thread Reply:* I wonder if the discolorations in the PSD5 grip can be cleaned up or not with a little BKF? It’s the only thing that’s kept me from buying it.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 12:52:56

*Thread Reply:* oh lawd, I would never let something like that keep me outta the game

2022-08-22 12:53:09

*Thread Reply:* I’m picky

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 12:53:14

*Thread Reply:* all metal parts—except those with cheap gold coatings—can be polished/shined with BKF

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 12:54:12

*Thread Reply:* The one I linked for $225 doesn't need any treatments at all

2022-08-22 12:54:29

*Thread Reply:* The grip looks to have a bunch of discoloration

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 12:54:45

*Thread Reply:* Those are graphite scuffs

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 12:55:06

*Thread Reply:* I see these things all the time—that's one of the best PSD5 specimens I've ever seen

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 12:55:21

*Thread Reply:* I understand your commentary, but it's like you're unable to see the rest of the pencil 😂

2022-08-22 12:55:23

*Thread Reply:* It is nice

2022-08-22 12:56:03

*Thread Reply:* No, I do see it, but for the $$

2022-08-22 13:10:45

*Thread Reply:* sorry had a work call… for $200 I’m going to be a little finicky about the condition, but you’re right - the overall condition of this is stellar.

2022-08-22 13:26:58

*Thread Reply:* Also, it seems that half the time when I’m worried about something like this, it’s always worse in the pics.

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:27:59

*Thread Reply:* I'm confident these are graphite scuffs that will come off with finger rubbing, an eraser, BKF, etc

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:28:14

*Thread Reply:* I'm also confident that is the shiniest grip on a PSD5 left on this plane

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:28:16

*Thread Reply: *planet

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:28:48

*Thread Reply:* I think most people are worried their pencils won't be as nice as the pictures

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:29:00

*Thread Reply:* I'm on the other side of things—I'm surprised if pencils ever look worse in person

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:29:20

*Thread Reply:* can't tell you how many specimens have looked rather dull in pics but have turned out to be stellar

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 13:29:43

*Thread Reply:* especially after their homecoming baptism of BKF on non-corrosive parts

👍 Heath
Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:16:11

*Thread Reply:* I ran home at lunch to take care of some stuff, and went ahead and took this picture (before my photo setup got buried, or the pencils put where I can't get to them for a while). I took it apart as far as I can get it. I cannot tell what is holding the main internals inside the body.

I also uploaded the W-Knock, so you can see them together. VERY Different pencils.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:17:19

*Thread Reply:* And I was wrong on the location of the part number on the PSD5. It is also on the back of the ring, not the left (that was from a faulty memory).

2022-08-22 14:42:07

*Thread Reply:* Oh sweet, thank you!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:49:41

*Thread Reply:* I can see why they didn't continue to produce the W-knock—that's the most complicated internal structure I've seen!

Pearsonified ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:50:25

*Thread Reply:* Sorta feels like the goal of the W-knock was to use a shorter spring, but then that introduced other engineering challenges

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:51:16

*Thread Reply:* Even with it in hand, it is hard to figure out how it works.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:52:23

*Thread Reply:* With this mechanism, to me, it seems to have probably been a high end limited run pencil.

Jimmy Simpson (Nimrodd) ([email protected])
2022-08-22 14:52:59

*Thread Reply:* Probably an experiment into the market for one of these.